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Old 05-29-2011, 09:12 PM   #41
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I did back it, you haven't even stated a manga feature that would suggest Itachi didn't have prep.

My case is simple, the truth. I'm not bias.
Because all he did was sit there and pant from using ammy.
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Old 05-29-2011, 09:15 PM   #42
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I did back it, you haven't even stated a manga feature that would suggest Itachi didn't have prep.

My case is simple, the truth. I'm not bias.

I agreed he had prep time, you didnt read what I said again.

However, having prep and prepping something are two different things.
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I agreed he had prep time, you didnt read what I said again.

However, having prep and prepping something are two different things.
Not at all.

He had prep, meaning he had time to release Susano. He hasn't shown the feature to release Susano any time he wants.

With Sasuke, he has no prep.
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Proof?

I am relatively sure that fireball left a molted crater. :/

Possibly.



Correct.

Lava Released required one handseal. :/

It is illogical. Your brain is apparently dysfunctional.
Amy will obliterate Lava style, btw- Amy takes 0 seals.

She will die, if you disagree, you're dysfunctional.
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Not at all.

He had prep, meaning he had time to release Susano. He hasn't shown the feature to release Susano any time he wants.

With Sasuke, he has no prep.
This is... wheres the logic in this?
He released it to counter a lightning bolt. He had time to prep, you aren't able to prove he did prep, however. As with sasuke, a burst of chakra from Itachi to make susanoo isn't a fry cry.

When did he not?
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This is... wheres the logic in this?
He released it to counter a lightning bolt. He had time to prep, you aren't able to prove he did prep, however. As with sasuke, a burst of chakra from Itachi to make susanoo isn't a fry cry.

When did he not?
What's your stance?

Before you begin shooting down my theory, how will Itachi kill Sasuke?
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What's your stance?

Before you begin shooting down my theory, how will Itachi kill Sasuke?
Idk about her, but once Itachi gets Susano'o, Yata Mirror+Totsuka Sword :/
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Amy will obliterate Lava style, btw- Amy takes 0 seals.

She will die, if you disagree, you're dysfunctional.
Fire can melt Lava? Waitwut? xD!
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^ Sora basically got it.
With no evidence Itachi used the prep he was given, we can assume it was an explosion of chakra. Almost instantaneous.
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Fire can melt Lava? Waitwut? xD!
Are you suggesting the lava melts the amy chakra flames?

Are you suggesting she can react to Amy? LOL
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^ Sora basically got it.
With no evidence Itachi used the prep he was given, we can assume it was an explosion of chakra. Almost instantaneous.
Yet you state no opinion on the battle, only to shoot down my opinion.

Sasuke dodges Itachi's Susano?

Now what?
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Yet you state no opinion on the battle, only to shoot down my opinion.

Sasuke dodges Itachi's Susano?

Now what?
Thats a good question.
What can sasuke do against the yata mirror?
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Thats a good question.
What can sasuke do against the yata mirror?
Here's a better question...

Has Itachi shown the feature to out last Sasuke in Susano? Or in any MS jutsu for that matter.

Sasuke: Dodge, Dodge, Itachi out of chakra.

Sasuke: Crush.
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Here's a better question...

Has Itachi shown the feature to out last Sasuke in Susano? Or in any MS jutsu for that matter.

Sasuke: Dodge, Dodge, Itachi out of chakra.

Sasuke: Crush.
In fully developed susanoo, no but then again Itachi was kinda dying and already out of chakra. Sasuke basically burned his chakra in his susanoo fight and lasted 10 minutes. Itachi fought sasuke for... I'd say about that long maybe, and then had the power after spamming a massive ammy to pop susanoo on reaction and walk up. If he weren't dying he'd have taken the eyes too.

Sasuke: Attacks, blocked by yata mirror, wastes chakra
Itachi: stands there and blocks with yata mirror, occational sword swing
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Are you suggesting the lava melts the amy chakra flames?

Are you suggesting she can react to Amy? LOL
Lava can not melt fire just as fire can not burn lava. :/

And, yes. Amaterasu burns very slowly.
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Lava can not melt fire just as fire can not burn lava. :/

And, yes. Amaterasu burns very slowly.
The flames will go through the lava, hence Sasuke's ability to illuminate them anywhere he sees.

If she can't dodge them, her ninjutsu makes no difference.

She's not getting the ninjutsu out in time anyway.
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In fully developed susanoo, no but then again Itachi was kinda dying and already out of chakra. Sasuke basically burned his chakra in his susanoo fight and lasted 10 minutes. Itachi fought sasuke for... I'd say about that long maybe, and then had the power after spamming a massive ammy to pop susanoo on reaction and walk up. If he weren't dying he'd have taken the eyes too.

Sasuke: Attacks, blocked by yata mirror, wastes chakra
Itachi: stands there and blocks with yata mirror, occational sword swing
Lol he's always potrayed a lazy weak chakra sense.

After MS Genjutsu Kakashi, he was completely drained of chakra.

This is Sasuke with MS, and he's shown a much longer stamina level. Sasuke has spammed Amy multiple times in battles, and used Susano at least three times in one battle, and launched multiple chakra arrows.

Itachi used Amy once, MS Genjutsu once, and held a Susano just to block one lightning bolt and absorb Orochimaru, and then he died.
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Lol he's always potrayed a lazy weak chakra sense.

Has he? He made a clone, as did Kisame. And Kisame, having tailed-beast chakra levels, was feeling drained while Itachi showed no real issue.

After MS Genjutsu Kakashi, he was completely drained of chakra.

Chapter and page

This is Sasuke with MS, and he's shown a much longer stamina level. Sasuke has spammed Amy multiple times in battles, and used Susano at least three times in one battle, and launched multiple chakra arrows.

Almost went blind, had to be revived like twice, had recovery time with Karin in Madara's other world...

Itachi used Amy once, MS Genjutsu once, and held a Susano just to block one lightning bolt and absorb Orochimaru, and then he died.

He didn't have what sasuke had above, and he pumped out a full susanoo in an instant after the fight. Sasuke had... what... a few fireballs and kirin and he was spent. Point being though...

Sasuke's Susanoo is like Kimimaru, it goes through stages before it can do much.

Itachis is like Jugo, in that it can basically force itself into full without much staging involved.
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In the danzo battle he summoned Susano multiple times, and launched several arrows. He also used MS Genjutsu.

This was after battling all the Kages.

Kirin's healing did not completely recuperate him.

So yes, he did show a larger stamina level than Itachi when it comes to Susano.

I still see no counter for him simply dodging and outlasting Itachi, since he's faster and all.
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The flames will go through the lava, hence Sasuke's ability to illuminate them anywhere he sees.

If she can't dodge them, her ninjutsu makes no difference.

She's not getting the ninjutsu out in time anyway.
They sure as hell did not go through Gaara's sand. :/

She can not dodge them, but Lava Release should work just as fine.

The Kekkei Genkai requires a single handseal and spitting lava. Not much time needed.

Anyway! We are off-topic and I am done debating with you. Come at me when you get better evidence.
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