Goku(Super Saiyan 3) Vs. Broly(Legendary Super Saiyan)

[Makoto Cifer]

Location: Abandoned City(Urban)Distance:20ftWeather: Very cloudy!So obviously broly is stronger than the average super saiyan, but during thier fight, goku couldn't put a scratch on broly until he recieved energy from four other fighters; trunks, gohan, vegeta, and piccilo. So my inference is that broly must be at least at super super 2 LV or higher.

[cnorwood]

LOL broly is ssj2 kid gohan level at best, he gets murderized

and im talking about movie 10 broly, movie 8 broly is FPcell level at best

[ss5]

Although Broly is my favorite character, I'm Afraid Goku would win. Broly is stronger than Cell that's for sure but I don't think he is as strong as Buu, ss3 Goku would win for sure.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by ss5

Although Broly is my favorite character, I'm Afraid Goku would win. Broly is stronger than Cell that's for sure but I don't think he is as strong as Buu, ss3 Goku would win for sure.

how the hell is broly stronger than cell, cell held back for most of the cell games

[ss5]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

how the hell is broly stronger than cell, cell held back for most of the cell games

Broly held back through the whole fight too. He never expected Kakarot/Goku to borrow powers from the others. Also Unlike Cell he fought them all at once. Trunk's had long hair meaning he had already went into the Hyperbolic time chamber meaning he was probably the same strength he was when he fought Cell. Also since he didn't go ascended saiyan then he must have already learned that it is too slow to beat anyone with speed. So Broly toyed around with Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Piccilo, Gohan, and Goku, he was just caught by surprise when Goku powered up.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by ss5

Broly held back through the whole fight too. He never expected Kakarot/Goku to borrow powers from the others. Also Unlike Cell he fought them all at once. Trunk's had long hair meaning he had already went into the Hyperbolic time chamber meaning he was probably the same strength he was when he fought Cell. Also since he didn't go ascended saiyan then he must have already learned that it is too slow to beat anyone with speed. So Broly toyed around with Vegeta, Trunks, Gohan, Piccilo, Gohan, and Goku, he was just caught by surprise when Goku powered up.

Broly didn't do anything that a full powered cell couldnt do, hell broly died by a lesser attack than gohans kamehameha that cell regened from

[ss5]

You do know that Broly didn't die from that punch right? It took a combined Kamehameha to kill Broly.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by ss5

You do know that Broly didn't die from that punch right? It took a combined Kamehameha to kill Broly.

that still is less than a kamehameha by a ssj2 kid gohan

[ss5]

No, Gohan, Goten, and Goku combined their Kamehamehas and blasted him into the sun and if Trunks didn't disrupt Broly's Blasts it probably would not have worked. He didn't even really die until he got close to the sun.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by ss5

No, Gohan, Goten, and Goku combined their Kamehamehas and blasted him into the sun and if Trunks didn't disrupt Broly's Blasts it probably would not have worked. He didn't even really die until he got close to the sun.

what part of ssj2 kid gohan is stronger than ssj1 teen gohan, ssj1 gotenks, and ssj1 goku(if he was truly there because no one really wished him back) put together is hard to understand. and yea his heart exploded before he hit the sun

[ss5]

One ss2 kamehameha vs three ss1 kamehameha's, I think it would be stronger. Broly continues to get stronger through out the fight as seen in the first Broly movie. Also Goku in The buu saga would be stronger than Goku in the cell saga. I don't know what you have against me or why you keep trying to prove me wrong but Broly was holding back the entire time because if Broly did go all out Gohan and the others would have been DEAD.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by ss5

One ss2 kamehameha vs three ss1 kamehameha's, I think it would be stronger. Broly continues to get stronger through out the fight as seen in the first Broly movie. Also Goku in The buu saga would be stronger than Goku in the cell saga. I don't know what you have against me or why you keep trying to prove me wrong but Broly was holding back the entire time because if Broly did go all out Gohan and the others would have been DEAD.

-I have nothing against you, just trust me i know more about dragonball
-SSJ2 kid gohan is stronger than the 3 ssjs that you are talking about, the powers would be like this comparing the powers to ssj2 kid gohan to the characters in movie 10 would be like this
SSJ2 kid gohan=Lssj broly>>SSJ2 teen gohan>>SSJ goku>SSJ teen gohan>>>>>>>SSJ goten>>>>>base form almost passed out trunks.
-and if cell powered up like he did against ssj2 gohan (not super perfect cell but he powered up before that) the entire cast wouldve been dead

[sagemaster777]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

-I have nothing against you, just trust me i know more about dragonball
-SSJ2 kid gohan is stronger than the 3 ssjs that you are talking about, the powers would be like this comparing the powers to ssj2 kid gohan to the characters in movie 10 would be like this
SSJ2 kid gohan=Lssj broly>>SSJ2 teen gohan>>SSJ goku>SSJ teen gohan>>>>>>>SSJ goten>>>>>base form almost passed out trunks.
-and if cell powered up like he did against ssj2 gohan (not super perfect cell but he powered up before that) the entire cast wouldve been dead

Wait.....wut? o.O

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by sagemaster777

Wait.....wut? o.O

whats the problem

[sagemaster777]

how does ss2KidGohan>ss2TeenGohan?

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by sagemaster777

how does ss2KidGohan>ss2TeenGohan?

well besides ignoring how vegeta said that he was stronger as a kid, he even showed it in the story

dabura>super percet cell going by gokus words, gohan was evenly matched to dabura, super perfect cell lost to a less than half powered ssj2 gohan, and gohan was holding back for most of the Kamehameha struggle

[sagemaster777]

Hmmm...Thats true.

[MysticGoten]

Okay. In, I believe the guidebook Son Goku Densetsu, it says that Broly's most powerful state is on par or below Super Saiyan 2. Yes, it does in the strength part of the book. So, this is enough.
SON GOKU
Done.

[USSJ]

in the daizenshuu it says the defining factor of ssj2 is sparks in the aura. not once was there every any trace of sparks in movie 10. not only that but broly was unable to catch gohan in a race to see whos faster and instead got caught in lava. for someone who "beat on gohan" he sure couldnt outfly him, and even showed to be more affected by gohans hits than the hits recieved from goku in movie 8.

dabura>super percet cell going by gokus words

what words? all goku did was vaguely compare dabura's initial estimate power to cell's. since he hadnt seen him fight yet we dont know if goku was sure about his comparison. he only said "tougher than i thought" because of dab's magic. furthermore once again gohan had no sparks in his aura, not even in-manga. unless gohan ssj1 > super perfect cell...

well besides ignoring how vegeta said that he was stronger as a kid, he even showed it in the story

its vegeta! plus vegeta admitted teen gohan is not at his full power, because he is not angry enough. if gohan were to "snap and go into a frenzy" goku says he can beat anyone. that would include dabura then.

super perfect cell lost to a less than half powered ssj2 gohan

gohan was holding back, and the manga called it the strongest kamehameha in history, meaning stronger than the one gohan used prior to this while at his full strength to reflect back cell's kamehameha. the daizenshuu and dragonball kai say goku actually lended his own power to gohan.

Broly held back through the whole fight too.

no he didnt. sure he powered up but he seems to have no control over that phenomenon.

He never expected Kakarot/Goku to borrow powers from the others. Also Unlike Cell he fought them all at once

and cell never expected gohan to ascend to ssj2. unlike broly, cell had a code of honor and preferred to fight them 1 vs 1, and implies he can take them all on at once IF HE WANTED.

Broly continues to get stronger through out the fight as seen in the first Broly movie

once. that was only shown once. "my ki is rising, its overflowing" also doesnt really mean "getting stronger" just that his ki is rising. the fact that he has no control over his ki actually works against him beating cell who has precise ki control.

One ss2 kamehameha vs three ss1 kamehameha's, I think it would be stronger.

yeah because a half dead mssj, a near passed out weak ssj and a dead guy who may not even be there is stronger than gohan putting all his power plus his father's into one "strongest kamehameha in history"