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Old 05-09-2011, 11:23 AM   #1
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Default Should countries switch to an alternative fuel source

I mean, Pakistan already does it, our per gallon equivalent for CNG (look it up) is like about a dollar and 20 cents, and Pakistan is now the #1 user of CNG in the world, while nobody else does it, thus it's cheap.

The US should AT LEAST start on an alternative while maintaining gasoline, you know, like how our cars now all have two functions. Maybe solar too
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I will ask a question I already know the answer to, is it heavily subsidized?

There is no point, why use a MORE expensive fuel source?
If gas prices become high enough, then other fuel sources will become viable.
This is like the hybrid car, which incidentally, does not cost you less until gas prices hit four dollars a gallon. Still, selling to environuts and trend followers ain't a bad idea.
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I mean, Pakistan already does it, our per gallon equivalent for CNG (look it up) is like about a dollar and 20 cents, and Pakistan is now the #1 user of CNG in the world, while nobody else does it, thus it's cheap.

The US should AT LEAST start on an alternative while maintaining gasoline, you know, like how our cars now all have two functions. Maybe solar too
There is no doubt that alternative sources of energy need to take the forefront in any industiralized country,but there are several problems. Moolah, production, acceptance by the people, and developing the technology.
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Old 05-09-2011, 03:08 PM   #4
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I will ask a question I already know the answer to, is it heavily subsidized?

There is no point, why use a MORE expensive fuel source?
If gas prices become high enough, then other fuel sources will become viable.
This is like the hybrid car, which incidentally, does not cost you less until gas prices hit four dollars a gallon. Still, selling to environuts and trend followers ain't a bad idea.
I don't think 10 countries using this is called a trend :/
Besides, it's only slightly more earth friendly, really not a help
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There is no doubt that alternative sources of energy need to take the forefront in any industiralized country,but there are several problems. Moolah, production, acceptance by the people, and developing the technology.
-If PAKISTAN can do it, I don't think TECHNOLOGY is a problem.
-People should EASILY accept lower gas prices
-Moolah, I actually had to look that up. Once again, CNG SAVES DAMN MONEY
-Production should be good if a country is up to it, of course, then your saying America is not up to the ability
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Default Re: Should countries switch to an alternative fuel source

sure why not?
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I don't think 10 countries using this is called a trend :/
Besides, it's only slightly more earth friendly, really not a help

-If PAKISTAN can do it, I don't think TECHNOLOGY is a problem.
-People should EASILY accept lower gas prices
-Moolah, I actually had to look that up. Once again, CNG SAVES DAMN MONEY
-Production should be good if a country is up to it, of course, then your saying America is not up to the ability
That's belittling to the engineers who work their arses off in Pakistan. Just because one country develops a technology, doesn't mean the rest will automatically go, " Oh, I just use the flux capacitor to make the time machine work, DUH". Ok, so that's a little silly,but it illustrates the point that the United states won't acquire the technology just because another developed their own first.

Start up costs, who is going to pay for the factories,the jobs, and the transportation of the technology. Think man, think.

Production, that's true. If the voter base suddenly overnight demanded alternative energy, it would happen faster than Speedy Gonzales when he runs speedily.
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Old 05-10-2011, 10:26 AM   #7
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Default Re: Should countries switch to an alternative fuel source

Eventually. But I don't think it should be rushed or forced.
The change should be gradual and not abrupt.
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That's belittling to the engineers who work their arses off in Pakistan. Just because one country develops a technology, doesn't mean the rest will automatically go, " Oh, I just use the flux capacitor to make the time machine work, DUH". Ok, so that's a little silly,but it illustrates the point that the United states won't acquire the technology just because another developed their own first.

Start up costs, who is going to pay for the factories,the jobs, and the transportation of the technology. Think man, think.

Production, that's true. If the voter base suddenly overnight demanded alternative energy, it would happen faster than Speedy Gonzales when he runs speedily.
Dude, "start up costs", don't EVER say that with anything, it makes you look stupid in ANY discussion. If you KNOW that it will pay off in a reasonable amount of time then there should be no problem. It's kind of like saying you don't care whether getting rechargeable batteries for your xbox controller isn't going to pay off eventually and without you noticing
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Dude, "start up costs", don't EVER say that with anything, it makes you look stupid in ANY discussion. If you KNOW that it will pay off in a reasonable amount of time then there should be no problem. It's kind of like saying you don't care whether getting rechargeable batteries for your xbox controller isn't going to pay off eventually and without you noticing
How does that make me look stupid, this kind of undertaking would take years even if the whole of the United States dedicated thier lives to developing the infrastructure, factories, etc.

Comparing a nation wide switch to solar,wind, and tidal energy to 5 dollar rechargeable batteries is just (insert derogatory adjective).

Simply think of it as a business, it can potentially make me rich. Without a loan, aka start up money, I can't start the business in the first place. Typical ignorant kid, you know nothing of the real world. What you spew right now is a pipe dream, an ideal of sorts.
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Speaking of ideals, I think the true change that is needed is ideaology. The fact that we must consider almost everything as a business is what is ruining, IMO, humanity as a whole. Education, family (the home), the arts, etc... These are all being put into the focus of business; when, before, they were not; at least, the home wasn't. Around the 18th, maybe 19th century, the home was a place you escaped the business of the outside world. But now the home is just another business. Cable bill, internet bill, electric bill, etc... Unless you do with out, you cannot escape business.

The fact that alternative fuel sources must be run by business' is just a failure of our minds. To me, this reminds me of my fellow students on campus last year when they were protesting tuition and other fee raises. The fact that they had to pay more was what pissed them off. Not the fact that before they got raised people still couldn't afford to attend. Nope, just the fact that they now had to pay more. Untill we get away from this mentality of business I fear that the same situation we have with gas will only continue with alternate fuel sources. Sure, it'll be great for the environment. But what is to become of the masses who cannot afford it?
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