Madara vs. Darth Vader

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

light saber wont do anything to gedo mazo. gedo mazo is much to large. naruto 536 page 16/17. also, it shouts and kills vader. how do you figure light still hits? theirs no evidence and your literally just making that up.

Size doesn't matter when Vader can litaerally use the force to bend reality. Intangiblilty doesn't mean invisible and I'm pretty sure Madara has fought in the day while still going intangible, thus making light still hit him because if light passed through him or refracted off him there would justbe a black mass or he would be invisible. There fore light still touches him.

[konnle1oo]

and say ples teach me master the way of ninja

[Seven]

Originally Posted by konnle1oo

madra will crush darth vader

Originally Posted by konnle1oo

darthvader will neel to madara

Don't double post, and use reasoning. I don't feel like having another crack down from TDZ.

[crystalblade13]

Originally Posted by Seven

Size doesn't matter when Vader can litaerally use the force to bend reality. Intangiblilty doesn't mean invisible and I'm pretty sure Madara has fought in the day while still going intangible, thus making light still hit him because if light passed through him or refracted off him there would justbe a black mass or he would be invisible. There fore light still touches him.

show me or tell me feats of vader moving something of gedo's magnitude with the force. it doesnt bend reality, it moves things using ones mind. your giving it properties it doesnt really have.

also the physics argument with light is unlikely. do you think kishi would want to draw a black mass for madara? his intangibility may just make him appear like a hologram. we have no knowledge of how it works, so the light theory is doubtful in my opinion.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

show me or tell me feats of vader moving something of gedo's magnitude with the force. it doesnt bend reality, it moves things using ones mind. your giving it properties it doesnt really have.

also the physics argument with light is unlikely. do you think kishi would want to draw a black mass for madara? his intangibility may just make him appear like a hologram. we have no knowledge of how it works, so the light theory is doubtful in my opinion.

Apparently you only know how to refer to the movies for info when it comes to SW. The comics are much more useful for feats mainly because SW has many canon story lines. Vader/Anakin has pulled massive ships using the force, and Luke Skywalker proves that the force can bend reality when he shuts a black hole in on itself by using the force to pull gravity. Kishi has no power here in the BG and unless you have a quote that says that he didn't wanna draw a black mass, you have no power in the BG. Kishi is also reffered to scientific fact in Naruto many times.

[crystalblade13]

i havnt read the comic, i'll admit it. but i still find it doubtfull that pulling down the gedo would stop it from screaming and leveling the surrounding area. since luke performed the black hole feat, vader shouldnt be able to bend reality to that extent right?

do the starwars comis give vader durability, because any of gedo's moves should take down someone with normal human durability.

im undecided on the intangibility situation.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

i havnt read the comic, i'll admit it. but i still find it doubtfull that pulling down the gedo would stop it from screaming and leveling the surrounding area. since luke performed the black hole feat, vader shouldnt be able to bend reality to that extent right?

do the starwars comis give vader durability, because any of gedo's moves should take down someone with normal human durability.

im undecided on the intangibility situation.

Vader is one of the strongest force users ever and the ships he has pulled have been way bigger than Gedo, so durability isn't a need when he can use the force to stop Gedo's foot and hold himself up and reinforce his footing using the free hand. That takes out Mazo's strength and roar.

[crystalblade13]

how does tha stop gedo from screaming, or shooting lightning out of its back? it just holds it in place...and then what? take a year carving it up?

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

how does tha stop gedo from screaming, or shooting lightning out of its back? it just holds it in place...and then what? take a year carving it up?

Because its scream is the only thing that may push Vader back and the reinforced footing prevents that. The lightning can be blocked by the force as shown to be done by Yoda.

[morgoth]

ok i gues i was not clear to keep it fair for those that do not read the comics i only want reference to the star wars movies......................btw did everyone forget nightmare realm of MS?

[Seven]

Originally Posted by morgoth

ok i gues i was not clear to keep it fair for those that do not read the comics i only want reference to the star wars movies......................btw did everyone forget nightmare realm of MS?

It's all one verse though. The feats still exist in Movie Vader. MS has not effect unless the eyes are directly met by the opponents, Vader has dark lenses over his eyes that would block it.

[crystalblade13]

izanagi isnt cast upon the opponent, but on the user. that basically means madara has 10 minutes to get close and suck up vader/punch a hole through him.

[Seven]

Where did you get 10min?

[crystalblade13]

ch. 510 pg 3, konan sais "600 billion paper tags, enough for ten minutes of constant explosions".

later in the chapter, after they all exploded, it's revealed that madara survived the assault because he used izanagi.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

ch. 510 pg 3, konan sais. 600 billion paper tags, enough for ten minutes of constant explosions.

later in the chapter it's revealed that madara survived the assault because he used izanagi.

Oh my bad I thought you were talking about intangibility, people have been mixing it up lately.

Vader is able to sense life beyond the force not to mention the presence of every person on a massive space station, he will get away or rip Madara in half after he uses Izanagi.

Madara was also horribley beaten up after those explosions proving it wasn't a whole 10 minutes.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Seven

Where did you get 10min?

from the konan fight, but it will just be 10 mins of vader repeatingly killing madara, then madara looses his last sharingan, then no intan and madara gets turned into a marble by the force

[crystalblade13]

nah, he was only beaten up because of what konan did to him in the previous chapter.

also, izanagi literally brings you back to life over and over. he'll get close enough to vader, especially since he can appear out of nowhere after death.

in fact, vaders speed feats arent that great from what i know, madara is pretty fast. supersonic at least.

[Seven]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

nah, he was only beaten up because of what konan did to him in the previous chapter.

also, izanagi literally brings you back to life over and over. he'll get close enough to vader, especially since he can appear out of nowhere after death.

Once again, Vader can sense Madara's presence beyond death, he will evade where ever Madara wants to appear.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by crystalblade13

nah, he was only beaten up because of what konan did to him in the previous chapter.

also, izanagi literally brings you back to life over and over. he'll get close enough to vader, especially since he can appear out of nowhere after death.

no he was messed up because he got hit by a few of the exploding tags, he said he had to resort to using izangi, meaning he tried to tank a few of the tags before he started izangi


+force precog =he wont suprise vader

[crystalblade13]

no, he wasnt any more injured than in the previous chapter. he phased through a couple dozen until he realized he wouldnt be able to keep it up the whole time.in ch 509 he had the exact same injuries.