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Old 04-03-2011, 01:14 PM   #1
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To be a top-ninja and still fall for genjutsu is just embarrassing... At Naruto's level now, he wont fall for it

Itachi's tsukuyomi is the strongest we know of right..?
It took sasuke a second state of curse mark to be able to disrupt Itachi's tsukuyomi

Now, there's gotta be a reason why Kishi doesn't find it necessary for Naruto to buddy up with Kuubi for help over genjutsu... Naruto already has Sage mode... As of when he fought Pain, should naruto be caught in the Tsukuyomi, it'd be easy to get out of it simply by collecting natural energy...and if he's already in sage mode, it'd be impossible to control his chakra... Not even Nagato could manipulate Naruto's chakra at near distance (partly b'cos because of kuubi's mode too)... so yea...no worries for Naruto
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Old 04-03-2011, 01:28 PM   #2
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To be a top-ninja and still fall for genjutsu is just embarrassing...
Kakashi and Danzo are embarrassing?

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At Naruto's level now, he wont fall for it
Arguable.


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Itachi's tsukuyomi is the strongest we know of right..?
Sasuke will surpass that considering he has EMS.

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It took sasuke a second state of curse mark to be able to disrupt Itachi's tsukuyomi
Nope.

Chapter 388 Sasuke didn't have Curse Seal activated.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:05 PM   #3
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To be a top-ninja and still fall for genjutsu is just embarrassing... At Naruto's level now, he wont fall for it

As Vivi said many top ninjas were easily tricked by genjutsu during their fights, such as Danzo, Orochimaru and Kakashi.

Itachi's tsukuyomi is the strongest we know of right..?
It took sasuke a second state of curse mark to be able to disrupt Itachi's tsukuyomi

Sasuke had the advantaged of experiencing it 2 times (when Itachi obliterated their clan and when Itachi returned to Konoha). On the other hand, Naruto never witness it, leaving him in disadvantage.

Now, there's gotta be a reason why Kishi doesn't find it necessary for Naruto to buddy up with Kuubi for help over genjutsu... Naruto already has Sage mode... As of when he fought Pain, should naruto be caught in the Tsukuyomi, it'd be easy to get out of it simply by collecting natural energy...and if he's already in sage mode, it'd be impossible to control his chakra... Not even Nagato could manipulate Naruto's chakra at near distance (partly b'cos because of kuubi's mode too)... so yea...no worries for Naruto
Since when did Pain/Nagato ever used Tsukuyomi? I don't recall him using genjutsu at all while he was still alive. Since Naruto was never caught by any genjutsu while he was in SM, there is no methode of proofing that SM is an effective weapon which can counter Genjutsu. But it may be capable of doing so, if the collection of Senjutsu Chakra intereferes directly with Genjutsu.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:23 PM   #4
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^ he's not saying Pain used genjutsu. He's saying Pain couldn't control the nature chakra flowing through Naruto. It's different I know, but it does raise a good point. If natural energy is so hard to harness physically it may also be hard for someone to manipulate it with genjutsu.

@kalmeast.......I won't say Naruto's not gonna be caught in a genjutsu, but I'll say he won't be defeated by one.
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^i agree
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That wan't Tsukiyomi.
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Old 04-03-2011, 02:35 PM   #7
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Itachi's tsukuyomi is the strongest we know of right..?
Actually the strongest genjutsu is Izanagi.
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Izanagi is not genjutsu.

Genjutsu creates illusion.

Izanagi creates reality.
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Izanagi is a genjutsu cast on the user instead of others. When activated, the caster removes the boundaries between reality and illusion within their personal space, allowing the user to control his/her personal space of existance.
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hmmm....your argument sounds good, but is that opinion or do you have a source. I don't remember the manga stating the Izanagi is genjutsu.

EDIT: Never mind. I looked it up. Touche good fellow. You are right and I am wrong. I bow b4 your awesome knowledge.
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Old 04-03-2011, 04:57 PM   #11
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POC, i should've said Naruto wont be defeated as j3st3er said...that's what i intended since Naruto is such a sucker for genjutsu

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yea, i know that but izanagi is more of a defensive genjutsu cast on oneself that's why i didn't include it...it's not controlling an opponent's chakra. but u're right

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that's why i said "itachi's is the strongest WE KNOW". we haven't seen sasuke's use of genjutsu with EMS yet so it'd be presumptuous of me to reference it. although i believe it "could" be stronger.
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Nope.

Chapter 388 Sasuke didn't have Curse Seal activated.
Manga 388 page 9... check it. sasuke goes 2nd state curse mark in the tsukuyomi...of course it didn't appear in reality because a genjutsu can be broken from either within the genjutsu itself or outside (reality)... That's why Itachi used that special one on Kakashi and Oro because he confined their movements in the genjutsu so they are unable to break it from within which would be hopeless to try breaking from the outside because it's a fraction of second in reality.

and remember, itachi's tsukuyomi he used on Sasuke is different from what he used on Oro and Kakashi.
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