Spoiler Kakashi?

[Shikamaru Nara]

What if Kishi gives Kakashi EMS?

Sure it sounds a little stupid but check this out:

• Kishi's obviously saving up for something big because he won't show Kakashi vs Seven Swordsmen of the Mist
• He's the only one who's obtained the Kamui
• Nobody knows exactly how he got the Kamui
• Kamui MIGHT be EMS, which would explain why he's not going blind yet.

Not completely absurd, but it may be a bit far fetched.

[Sub-Zero]

If Kishi does give Kakashi EMS, and Kakashi and Madara ends up fighting, then it should be a good fight.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

What if Kishi gives Kakashi EMS?

Sure it sounds a little stupid but check this out:

• Kishi's obviously saving up for something big because he won't show Kakashi vs Seven Swordsmen of the Mist
• He's the only one who's obtained the Kamui
• Nobody knows exactly how he got the Kamui
• Kamui MIGHT be EMS, which would explain why he's not going blind yet.

Not completely absurd, but it may be a bit far fetched.

How will Kakashi get EMS? He is not an Uchiha.

I liken it to Danzo Izangi. Kakashi is not Uchiha, so he gets a weaken MS.

[Shikamaru Nara]

But he has an Uchiha eye.

[Sub-Zero]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

But he has an Uchiha eye.

Yeah which Obito gave him.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Which is coursing with Uchiha blood. he must have some. If he didn't he wouldn't have Kamui.

[Danielle]

It can't have Uchiha blood anymore, the blood would have been replace my Kakashi's already. It's not like your body keeps using and reusing blood all the time. Unless Kishi flunked bio.

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

But he has an Uchiha eye.

SO did Danzo but he was not Madara's power level.

[Kreegah!!!]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

What if Kishi gives Kakashi EMS?

Sure it sounds a little stupid but check this out:

• Kishi's obviously saving up for something big because he won't show Kakashi vs Seven Swordsmen of the Mist
• He's the only one who's obtained the Kamui
• Nobody knows exactly how he got the Kamui
• Kamui MIGHT be EMS, which would explain why he's not going blind yet.

Not completely absurd, but it may be a bit far fetched.

I haven't seen the databooks, so please correct any wayward thinking here, but do we really know what EMS does aside from permanencing sight? I assumed it may graft in powers from the donor, but I never really entertained the idea that it granted a new ability specific to its having been obtained. Also, is it not possible that certain abilities may be hereditary, others a given, and another specific to that individual? For example, All except Kakashi (so far) has Tsukyomi (not always to the same standard, but there nonetheless). Yes I recognize it manifests in the other eye, but even so... Kakashi has only showed kamui as an MS move. Why would he not use the other "lesser" moves that eye could convey to conserve energy? I'm thinking it is because he doesn't have them, this is HIS move. So far, anyone with both eyes can pull a Susano'o. While it manifests differently to each person, it still has similar powers and forms, and I'm thinking it's a ppower any MS user with both eyes would have. But look at Amaterasu, and see how it really only seemed to be an Itachi move. Sasuke seemed to have the power to snuff it and exercise greater control over it, but I'm thinking the move to use Amaterasu was actually implanted by Itachi somehow. I do not think it was a native power to Sasuke, and the reason Itachi did it was because he was convinced that Sasuke would be resolute in not accepting Itachi's eyes, which would have gained him the ability to use those powers, too. Perhaps Itachi and Sasuke are descended from whomever Tobi is not, and Obito who had a power in his eye similar to Tobi was Tobi's descendant.

That said, your other bullet points I can't really argue with. I do indeed think Kakashi's holding back something. Plus he has a thousand+ jutsu that we all hope he spams the crap out of.

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Which is coursing with Uchiha blood. he must have some. If he didn't he wouldn't have Kamui.

Interesting...

Originally Posted by Danielle

It can't have Uchiha blood anymore, the blood would have been replace my Kakashi's already. It's not like your body keeps using and reusing blood all the time. Unless Kishi flunked bio.

Something to ponder: Here.

Obviously, as shocking as it is to go from positive to negative, it is still not the same as going from O+ to AB-. Or having your entire DNA usurped and becoming the body and soul of the donor. But regardless, in crazy mangas all it takes is a footstep in this direction to take that path with gusto. Meaning that Kakashi may be carrying some Uchiha in him. I'm sure zerosameri will want to remove my pancreas for even suggesting Obito lives after a fashion, but this would be a very interesting plot development later - that blood residue remaining on Obito's orb of obfuscation (good job, Rin, learn to sterilize. I think we know how you died later now. Catch a little scarlet fever off your scalpel? Didn't Tsunade at least teach hygienic surgery practices? Useless wench!) worked its way into Kakashi's blood stream and very slowly began to take over. Cool.

[JashinSama]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

What if Kishi gives Kakashi EMS?

Sure it sounds a little stupid but check this out:

• Kishi's obviously saving up for something big because he won't show Kakashi vs Seven Swordsmen of the Mist
• He's the only one who's obtained the Kamui
• Nobody knows exactly how he got the Kamui
• Kamui MIGHT be EMS, which would explain why he's not going blind yet.

Not completely absurd, but it may be a bit far fetched.

It kinda makes sense, Kishi stopped Kakashi's fight right after he put Zabuza back into his place (he felt for him like a best friend would feel, if one were to kill his best friend.) I wouldn't be suprised if when it jumps back to Kakashi, he has the EMS.

[kalmeast]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

What if Kishi gives Kakashi EMS?

Sure it sounds a little stupid but check this out:

• Kishi's obviously saving up for something big because he won't show Kakashi vs Seven Swordsmen of the Mist
• He's the only one who's obtained the Kamui
• Nobody knows exactly how he got the Kamui
• Kamui MIGHT be EMS, which would explain why he's not going blind yet.

Not completely absurd, but it may be a bit far fetched.

That'd make Kakashi the most talented shinobi alive... seeing even uchiha's struggle to manifest EMS

[Shikamaru Nara]

I'm just saying that it could be possible because the abilities of EMS have not been revealed yet

[mrsticky005]

Originally Posted by Kreegah!

I haven't seen the databooks, so please correct any wayward thinking here, but do we really know what EMS does aside from permanencing sight?

It grants new powers.

I assumed it may graft in powers from the donor, but I never really entertained the idea that it granted a new ability specific to its having been obtained.

It does. The question is what kind of powers.

Also, is it not possible that certain abilities may be hereditary, others a given, and another specific to that individual? For example, All except Kakashi (so far) has Tsukyomi (not always to the same standard, but there nonetheless). Yes I recognize it manifests in the other eye, but even so... Kakashi has only showed kamui as an MS move. Why would he not use the other "lesser" moves that eye could convey to conserve energy? I'm thinking it is because he doesn't have them, this is HIS move.


Yeah I seriously doubt Kakashi has anything else that powerful up his sleeve.

So far, anyone with both eyes can pull a Susano'o. While it manifests differently to each person, it still has similar powers and forms, and I'm thinking it's a ppower any MS user with both eyes would have.

Yep. Though I imagine it's still extremely rare.

But look at Amaterasu, and see how it really only seemed to be an Itachi move. Sasuke seemed to have the power to snuff it and exercise greater control over it, but I'm thinking the move to use Amaterasu was actually implanted by Itachi somehow. I do not think it was a native power to Sasuke, and the reason Itachi did it was because he was convinced that Sasuke would be resolute in not accepting Itachi's eyes, which would have gained him the ability to use those powers, too.

I think Sasuke got Amaterasu from Itachi.

Perhaps Itachi and Sasuke are descended from whomever Tobi is not, and Obito who had a power in his eye similar to Tobi was Tobi's descendant.

Maybe. Obito is probably somehow involved in a way where he is not Tobi.

That said, your other bullet points I can't really argue with. I do indeed think Kakashi's holding back something. Plus he has a thousand+ jutsu that we all hope he spams the crap out of.

For sure.

in yellow

[Kreegah!!!]

Originally Posted by mrsticky005

in yellow

Nice. With your point on Amaterasu, however, that is what I tried to convey. That it might be granted from the transplant for EMS, but that Sasuke seemed early on set to achieve MS his own way and was set on not taking his bro's eyes - something I think Itachi knew or hoped would happen, hence why he imparted the ability in the first place.

[EvL j3st3r]

Why all the emphasis on Uchiha blood. That part's just assumption. Kakashi's MS has less capability bc he only has one. MS is the only dojutsu that has shown having two eyes with the technique is better than having one. It's the only dojutsu that put's emphasis on right or left eye.....or both (Susanoo requires right and left eye).

Anyway, I hope Kakashi doesn't end up with EMS. His body can barely support MS much less EMS.

I don't think Kamui is an EMS technique bc Kakashi only had regular Sharingan b4. He would have skipped a whole step if he has EMS now.

[katsu uchiha]

Originally Posted by EvL j3st3r

Why all the emphasis on Uchiha blood. That part's just assumption. Kakashi's MS has less capability bc he only has one. MS is the only dojutsu that has shown having two eyes with the technique is better than having one. It's the only dojutsu that put's emphasis on right or left eye.....or both (Susanoo requires right and left eye).

Anyway, I hope Kakashi doesn't end up with EMS. His body can barely support MS much less EMS.

I don't think Kamui is an EMS technique bc Kakashi only had regular Sharingan b4. He would have skipped a whole step if he has EMS now.

^This

Also the reason why he his body can barely support MS is because he doesn't have a lot of chakra to begin with < this he said so himself.

If he got EMS, like you said I don't think his body can support it, he would probably die from using it once.

Also is it even possible from what we have seen that a Senju descendant can have Uchiha blood in him?

I am pretty sure the Uchiha blood would have gotten neutralized with his blood or something. But I could be totally wrong about this.

But since Kakashi is not an Uchiha and doesn't have a blood relative of the Uchiha, since he is an only child and NOT Uchiha. It's very unlikely to happen.

[thenewguy]

the only way i see kakashi having an ems is iif he somehow had uchiha cells just like yamato has senju cells I think that is the only way kakshi would get the ems

[Kiseki]

Holy carp, never thought about it.
/ponders

[Kreegah!!!]

We don't know his lineage. It's possible that Uchiha women marry outside the clan. Although I would think this matron would have to be from further back in his ancestral line if it's the case. Why? Because there would have been a lot of play on hope that li'l Kakashi would have sharingan, but disappointments abound and Papa Hatake offs himself - owait... Anywho, point is that Kakashi may indeed have some heavily diluted Uchiha blood in his veins. TIME WILL TELL.

[Hyuuga Heir]

Well.. IIRC, him and Obito did have the same blood type...