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Old 03-09-2011, 06:05 PM   #41
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If suigetsu liquifies while he's getting hit will it still work on him?
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:55 PM   #42
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Suigetsu would have to be careful on how many times he uses hydration technique.

It does stop him from using the parts of his body that turned into water.

Already proved Neji's feats in previous posts. Prove that Neji's Rotation can't block swords.

They would have to be really small to be more than or equal to 64 of them to fit into an entire chakra network. In the Kazekage rescue arc Deidara was about to blow up and consume everyone in the explosion but Kakashi sent it to another diminsion using Kamui. Thanks to Neji they all knew that he was going to blow up in the first place because he noticed with his Byakugan that Deidara was concentrating his chakra into a single point.

Neji can tire Suigetsu out by dehydrating him first if this is true.
Prove that Neji's Rotation is strong enough to withstand the force of the sword (especially Zabuza's sword if we're talking about that) and prove that Neji can continuously dodge sword attacks in a straight up taijutsu fight with Suigetsu. I'm finally going to debate Suigetsu on the offense rather than the defense. I can't recall many feats from Neji's rotation other than blocking kunai so if you wouldn't mind to give feats on it, go ahead.

Irrelevant but nothing proves how Neji will know to target the drops of water until later on into the fight.

Indeed he can. I'm not going to deny that this fight is close when we take the location into consideration
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Chakra points, as claimed in the neji v hinata fight, were about the size of the point of a needle or something.
Even so, it's not like Neji has much knowledge on Suigetsu in the first place.
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If suigetsu liquifies while he's getting hit will it still work on him?
Well is there any proof that his chakra points can be affected when he's been turned into water?
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Old 03-10-2011, 07:49 AM   #43
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neji wins because of location because suigetsu is made of water
but in a different place suigetsu would win because neji can't stop suigetsus refoming
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Old 03-11-2011, 04:34 PM   #44
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Prove that Neji's Rotation is strong enough to withstand the force of the sword (especially Zabuza's sword if we're talking about that) and prove that Neji can continuously dodge sword attacks in a straight up taijutsu fight with Suigetsu. I'm finally going to debate Suigetsu on the offense rather than the defense. I can't recall many feats from Neji's rotation other than blocking kunai so if you wouldn't mind to give feats on it, go ahead.

Irrelevant but nothing proves how Neji will know to target the drops of water until later on into the fight.

Indeed he can. I'm not going to deny that this fight is close when we take the location into consideration

Even so, it's not like Neji has much knowledge on Suigetsu in the first place.

Well is there any proof that his chakra points can be affected when he's been turned into water?
Prove that Neji's Rotation is that weak and prove that Suigetsu is better at taijutsu than Neji. I have already provided proof that Neji is a taijutsu master genius, you do the same for Suigetsu.

no it is not and Neji would have to be unbelievably dumb to not know that his Byakugan is specifically telling him to do so.

He will gain more and more knowledge as the fight drags on.

is there any proof that his chakra points can turn Suigetsu into water after they are struck? Suigetsu does not even have knowledge on 64 palms so how will he know to do that?
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byakugan should give Neji insight of suigetsu body structure.
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Suigetsu can't really do much in the desert, so this is kinda an auto-win for neji imo
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Prove that Neji's Rotation is that weak and prove that Suigetsu is better at taijutsu than Neji. I have already provided proof that Neji is a taijutsu master genius, you do the same for Suigetsu.

no it is not and Neji would have to be unbelievably dumb to not know that his Byakugan is specifically telling him to do so.

He will gain more and more knowledge as the fight drags on.

is there any proof that his chakra points can turn Suigetsu into water after they are struck? Suigetsu does not even have knowledge on 64 palms so how will he know to do that?
I didn't say Rotation is weak, I'm simply asking for proof that it can withstand the Zabuza sword. The samurai sword is a maybe. hmmm let's see Suigetsu's been trained in swordsmanship since day one.

It's not like some minuscule drops of water are going to have chakra points in them..

So will Suigetsu :/

Why wouldn't he turn into water upon seeing that Neji is a close range fighter?
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I didn't say Rotation is weak, I'm simply asking for proof that it can withstand the Zabuza sword. The samurai sword is a maybe. hmmm let's see Suigetsu's been trained in swordsmanship since day one.

It's not like some minuscule drops of water are going to have chakra points in them..

So will Suigetsu :/

Why wouldn't he turn into water upon seeing that Neji is a close range fighter?
the water has to be composed of some chakra or else suigetsu wouldn't be able to reform either way Neji can disrupt its flow.
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he disrupts the flow, Suigetsu gets busted, and then he reforms. Unless Neji can keep his chakra in there
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Suigetsu can turn to water to avoid the hits, but with the gentle palm still going into the water, wouldn't it still disrupt it? I mean the water itself is made up of sui's chakra, so poking the water should, by theory, devistate suigetsu after the first shot. Especially with how fast he would need to reform...
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Suigetsu can turn to water to avoid the hits, but with the gentle palm still going into the water, wouldn't it still disrupt it? I mean the water itself is made up of sui's chakra, so poking the water should, by theory, devistate suigetsu after the first shot. Especially with how fast he would need to reform...
Suigetsu's water would have to be a chakra built substance because if it was normal water Neji could've just swam out of a water prison jutsu by Kisame.

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So then yes. If so, gg.
One poke, avoided or not, is a done deal. Chakra palm goes in and disrupts the chakra in the water. No reforming, Gobi eats suigetsu and makes him cactus juice.
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]Suigetsu's water[/B] would have to be a chakra built substance because if it was normal water Neji could've just swam out of a water prison jutsu by Kisame.
What makes you think they are even remotely the same?

We know near nothing about it to suggest that.

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Let me guess your basing this off what Neji did to Kisame's Water Prison?

Nice.But 2 they're 2 different Jutsu's.

And like I said to baut you cannot just assume it will work on Suigetsu as well with so little knowledge we have off his Hydration Jutsu.
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If Suigetsu can hold and swing a sword, breathe, see, speak,wear clothes and own a functioning brain and organs without his body turning into a liquefied form - then its to presumed his body is normally a solid. When he's struck with attacks, he is able to reduce his form into water, to avoid damage. To do that, he'd need to be able to see the attack coming. This just a hypothesis, but - assuming an attack is too fast, he may not be able to react. And thus, not reduce himself into his liquid form to avoid damage.

If thats the case, Neji - who has superior speed, could win. If not, he has no way to harm Suigetsu, so obviously Suigetsu would come out victorious.
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What makes you think they are even remotely the same?

We know near nothing about it to suggest that.



Let me guess your basing this off what Neji did to Kisame's Water Prison?

not at all

Nice.But 2 they're 2 different Jutsu's.

ok...?

And like I said to baut you cannot just assume it will work on Suigetsu as well with so little knowledge we have off his Hydration Jutsu.

I was assuming from his destruction of Kidomaru's webs, when he pretty much pumped chakra into the web itself and broke it apart by having his chakra disrupt the chakra in the web.

So his chakra bashing water-based chakra should be a given.
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Who says Neji is going to touch Suigetsu? Suigetsu blocked attacks from KB, and A.
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If Suigetsu can hold and swing a sword, breathe, see, speak,wear clothes and own a functioning brain and organs without his body turning into a liquefied form - then its to presumed his body is normally a solid. When he's struck with attacks, he is able to reduce his form into water, to avoid damage. To do that, he'd need to be able to see the attack coming. This just a hypothesis, but - assuming an attack is too fast, he may not be able to react. And thus, not reduce himself into his liquid form to avoid damage.

If thats the case, Neji - who has superior speed, could win. If not, he has no way to harm Suigetsu, so obviously Suigetsu would come out victorious.
he cannot liquify if a chakra point is struck.
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Who says Neji is going to touch Suigetsu? Suigetsu blocked attacks from KB, and A.
Who said Neji cannot touch Suigetsu? Neji has shown a lot of defense feats in the chunin exams. Just because Suigetsu blocked attacks from KB and A does not mean that he is also faster than them.
Also, he cannot blitz Neji. With his Byakugan he will know exactly where he is.

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What makes you think they are even remotely the same?

We know near nothing about it to suggest that.



Let me guess your basing this off what Neji did to Kisame's Water Prison?

Nice.But 2 they're 2 different Jutsu's.

And like I said to baut you cannot just assume it will work on Suigetsu as well with so little knowledge we have off his Hydration Jutsu.
What makes you think they are different? They are both chakra built substances. Nothing is stopping Neji from disrupting the chakra in the water.
Like I said to Kuromaki Neji will gain more and more knowledge thanks to his Byakugan.
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cant suigetsu drown someone with his liquid formlike his brother?( than again neji can blast chakra from his own points)
im not so sure how easy it would be to strick water chakra points
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