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Old 12-07-2011, 11:32 AM   #581
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I actually recall Negato appearing behind Killer Bee after amassing a large Shinra Tensei toward them.

Bottom line being multiple paths reacted to RS Naruto and Killer Bee with Jutsu.

They should have died multiple times, PNJ saved them from several ranged Ninjutsu.

We can infer his attacking speed is not as incredible as originally projected, since several paths overpowered them in straight blitzing. Rinnegan or not, they should not be able to react let alone pressure them.

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Old 12-07-2011, 01:49 PM   #582
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I actually recall Negato appearing behind Killer Bee after amassing a large Shinra Tensei toward them.

Bottom line being multiple paths reacted to RS Naruto and Killer Bee with Jutsu.

They should have died multiple times, PNJ saved them from several ranged Ninjutsu.

We can infer his attacking speed is not as incredible as originally projected, since several paths overpowered them in straight blitzing. Rinnegan or not, they should not be able to react let alone pressure them.
6 "v2" jinchurriki plus Tobi? Naruto and Killerbee aren't gods....
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:22 PM   #583
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Not sure what the quantity has to do with it.

KB was only able to capture one of them with a giant hand while he was jumping toward him.

RS Naruto was blitzed three times by different ones.
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Not sure what the quantity has to do with it.

KB was only able to capture one of them with a giant hand while he was jumping toward him.

RS Naruto was blitzed three times by different ones.
Two equal forces are balanced until and outside force acts upon it.

If Jeff and Bob are fighting each other with the same strength. What would happen if two others(same strength) joined Bob's side?
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Two equal forces are balanced until and outside force acts upon it.

If Jeff and Bob are fighting each other with the same strength. What would happen if two others(same strength) joined Bob's side?
He couldn't dodge the first, the others weren't even part of the equation yet.

He didn't even sense their malice when they appeared behind him, they were that fast.

Is it hard to believe that other cloaked Jinchurikis just might be faster than a barely cloaked RS Naruto.
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He couldn't dodge the first, the others weren't even part of the equation yet.

He didn't even sense their malice when they appeared behind him, they were that fast.

Is it hard to believe that other cloaked Jinchurikis just might be faster than a barely cloaked RS Naruto.
Maybe after using multiple clones, fighting multiple edo tenseis(including Madara). Fight the jinchuriki for a while, then getting teamed up on by v2 cloaks while on top of a full formed Hachibi who is moving around, it would be hard to dodge.....
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Even in base the Jinchurikis were pressuring him. Numbers or not he is supposed to be by far the fastest in the manga. I don't think A would have had that trouble.

I think it's clear he is not that good compared to these other V2 Jinchuriki.

Always a possibility he's worn down though. It certainly seems that way as he continues to decline further and further into the battle when reacting.

Though again that could just be because the Jinchurikis are now much faster.
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Old 12-07-2011, 04:31 PM   #588
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^^ well then, ur just underestimating the Others,
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Even in base the Jinchurikis were pressuring him. Numbers or not he is supposed to be by far the fastest in the manga. I don't think A would have had that trouble.

I think it's clear he is not that good compared to these other V2 Jinchuriki.

Always a possibility he's worn down though. It certainly seems that way as he continues to decline further and further into the battle when reacting.

Though again that could just be because the Jinchurikis are now much faster.
probably the rinnegan gives them more power,or perhaps the Tailed Beast Power has 'changed'. Remember that Hachibi said he sensed the Tailed Beast but said that they felt different
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kakashi in raikiri mode speed = guy 6 gats mode speed

kakashi can blitz and hit in the nick of the sharingan-raningan v2 jinch . the jinch blocked raikeri thanks to chakra cloak

guy take on v2 jinch also .
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kakashi in raikiri mode speed = guy 6 gats mode speed

kakashi can blitz and hit in the nick of the sharingan-raningan v2 jinch . the jinch blocked raikeri thanks to chakra cloak

guy take on v2 jinch also .
Not sure whether they were standing together and charging up in that panel or charging at the enemy. It looked like Gai reached the 7th Tail first and hit her multiple times before Kakashi closely followed suite and nicked on of the V2 junchurikis

Kakashi in Raikiri mode does not equal Gai in 6th Gate Mode. Although he may trail by a little
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kakashi in raikiri mode speed = guy 6 gats mode speed.
Yeah I knew this would come up.

I wonder what Midnight would say.
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What The HELLLLL!!!!!! did someone just say!!!! kakashi in raikiri mode speed equal to Gai in the 6th Gate!!!!!!. Jesus Christ the world has come to an end!!!!!!

U seem to forget that One of the Jin dodged kakashi's attack while the one Gai up got hit with the whole thing.

also i dont really think either of them were trying to kill there opponents!!!!, they wanted to counter!!!!!, thats It!!!!.
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ANd they were standing Next to each other!!!!, how are you suppose to tel whether Kakashi has the same speed as him!...


They are Just getting Ready to attack!!!! how on earth would you think that they were actually the same speed.
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Calm down Midnight. You and LUCKY KAKASHI can duke it out in a more friendly manner.
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This fight scenes lately are sloppy as hell. Please enlighten me to how you are getting accurate feats. The only feats that can be considered as solid are the jinchuriki abilities. All I see is rampaging beast and Naruto getting Knocked around.
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Old 12-15-2011, 02:16 AM   #597
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last manga page 11 , focus in the bottom of the page

kakashi raikire mode and gai 6gates hits the jinch in the same panel , and the started the attack in the same panel , so what the impression u take from that .and the manga is from right to left , so it shows kakashi raikeri hits b4 gai 6 gates punch .


it is hints from kishi , u can ignore them (which is the easy way ) or accept it friendly .


and the jinch didnt dodge the first attack from kakashi , he dodged the second one .again page 11 , the bottom panel .

the jinch couldn't react to first attack , even thought he has raningan (shared vision ) and sharingan , and tailed beast chakra pole . and the same one who blitzed rs mod naruto loool .

and the same v2 jinch wher able do dodge bee with 7sword style , which blitzed sasuke .




any way , the feats which must be consedred that kakashi could hits v2 raningan sharingan 5 tails v2 jinch , which is an impressive feats .



aweaker one could dodge bee attack and blitz rs naruto . and the only way the jinch survived the raikeri is because of their chakra cloack , and the jinch chakra cloack is the strongest in the anime , so kakashi is now in deferent tier of speed .


the facts that gai needed to inter 6 gates to keep up with them , and kakashi only used his raikeri speeks allote .

and the fact that gai from start used the 3 gates to keep up with kakashi speak it selfe ( u can see gai has a chakra clock which clearly from 3 gates )


wankers gaved itachi lengendary speed tier because he can keep up with base bee , and i am now playing with their rolls .





and in the end i am not understamating gai or any thing , but both kakashi and gai showed an impressive speed and streanth feats , which are > from orochimaru vs 4 tails naruto feats .and that must be cosedered , because jichs arent somthing to mess with . especially v2 ones who have the sharingan and raningan .
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last manga page 11 , focus in the bottom of the page

kakashi raikire mode and gai 6gates hits the jinch in the same panel , and the started the attack in the same panel , so what the impression u take from that .and the manga is from right to left , so it shows kakashi raikeri hits b4 gai 6 gates punch .


it is hints from kishi , u can ignore them (which is the easy way ) or accept it friendly .


and the jinch didnt dodge the first attack from kakashi , he dodged the second one .again page 11 , the bottom panel .

the jinch couldn't react to first attack , even thought he has raningan (shared vision ) and sharingan , and tailed beast chakra pole . and the same one who blitzed rs mod naruto loool .

and the same v2 jinch wher able do dodge bee with 7sword style , which blitzed sasuke .




any way , the feats which must be consedred that kakashi could hits v2 raningan sharingan 5 tails v2 jinch , which is an impressive feats .



aweaker one could dodge bee attack and blitz rs naruto . and the only way the jinch survived the raikeri is because of their chakra cloack , and the jinch chakra cloack is the strongest in the anime , so kakashi is now in deferent tier of speed .


the facts that gai needed to inter 6 gates to keep up with them , and kakashi only used his raikeri speeks allote .

and the fact that gai from start used the 3 gates to keep up with kakashi speak it selfe ( u can see gai has a chakra clock which clearly from 3 gates )


wankers gaved itachi lengendary speed tier because he can keep up with base bee , and i am now playing with their rolls .





and in the end i am not understamating gai or any thing , but both kakashi and gai showed an impressive speed and streanth feats , which are > from orochimaru vs 4 tails naruto feats .and that must be cosedered , because jichs arent somthing to mess with . especially v2 ones who have the sharingan and raningan .

Ok for one thing, the jinchuriki was charging at them first. So for them to all land hits at the same time is reasonable.

Secondly, Gai is faster because in the next page we see him already hitting the 7 tails and Kakashi is still charging towards one of the jinchuriki.

Honestly, Kishi is screwing the speed feats making it really hard for debaters to debate.
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OK lets pass the gai , kakashi speed .

do u think kakashi and gai have showed Superior feats to jiraya and oro , since they fight ed v2 jinch , with more tails , and sharingan and raningan ?

jiraya was on the merge of death vs 4 tails naruto , oro stomped vs v2 naruto 4 tails , and their is no sharningan and raningan for naruto .

i think we should giv some credit to kakashi and gai .and now they are = or > sanin level .
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Verge of death because he was caught off guard. not like he fought Naruto. Like I said before, Kishi is really giving us confusing outlooks on certain character's speed feats in the last three chapters.
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