Feats - Chapter by Chapter Update

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by Kazumi Saitama

WOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT DAMN INO!!! :D

EDIT: Tenten also has that badass fan.

She has it, but she did nothing with it. I am sure her chakra isn't strong enough for that.

However, Asuma's Ash Cloud is enough to take done one of Kakuzu's hearts immediately. Important piece of info here.

Originally Posted by mikeiskewl922

Ino is finally worth a lot! xD
She now has the feat of keeping up with a Jonin even in a heavier body, and she has SUPER reaction speed, to have been able to switch into Choji's body and block Asuma's attack in an instant! INO!

Ino is also faster than Asuma's Ash Cloud, she knocked Choji out of the way in the beginning. I guess her soul possesion is quite fast as well. She was able to enter Choji before Asuma could land a hit.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by Wooster

She has it, but she did nothing with it. I am sure her chakra isn't strong enough for that.

However, Asuma's Ash Cloud is enough to take done one of Kakuzu's hearts immediately. Important piece of info here.

Ino is also faster than Asuma's Ash Cloud, she knocked Choji out of the way in the beginning. I guess her soul possesion is quite fast as well. She was able to enter Choji before Asuma could land a hit.

Really? o.o

Why did I think she swung it. x.x

[Kuromaki]

I'm just poppin in here to say that as of Chapter 433 Ino kicks ass. Not so useless now is she?

Edit: I'll also be editing the list to add some of the new feats for Choji & Ino

[Sai's brother]

Tenten was able to hold onto the Banana Fan without getting killed by it right away...does that count as something?

*edit: *reads wooster's post* Um, okay

[Frost ninja]

You can hold the artifacts, they dont drain til you use them

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Wooster

She has it, but she did nothing with it. I am sure her chakra isn't strong enough for that.

However, Asuma's Ash Cloud is enough to take done one of Kakuzu's hearts immediately. Important piece of info here.


Ino is also faster than Asuma's Ash Cloud, she knocked Choji out of the way in the beginning. I guess her soul possesion is quite fast as well. She was able to enter Choji before Asuma could land a hit.

Just on a note:
It wasn't Ash Cloud but Dust Cloud.
And appearantly it only requires one Hand Seal so quick to use as well.

On another note:
I say Choza tanking Ash Cloud deserves quite some Credit.

Chouji going Butterfly Mode without Pills takes away his prep needed for Pills.

[Lady Tsunade]

Ino is extremely fast with Mind transfer. If you're standing still, or if you're moving around at any average speeds you're totally screwed. She's shown good medic evasion. And obviously reaction speed as a result. Ino>Hinata. Ino>Tenten. And when fighting Sakura when shes not given knowledge on Ino, Ino>Sakura. Going up against Ino with no knowledge is extremely dangerous, I think she should really be credited for her recent feats.

[mikeiskewl922]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE UNDERSTANDS! xDDD

[Frost ninja]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

Ino is extremely fast with Mind transfer. If you're standing still, or if you're moving around at any average speeds you're totally screwed. She's shown good medic evasion. And obviously reaction speed as a result. Ino>Hinata. Ino>Tenten. And when fighting Sakura when shes not given knowledge on Ino, Ino>Sakura. Going up against Ino with no knowledge is extremely dangerous, I think she should really be credited for her recent feats.

I could debate against that... Ino is getting better but shes not getting up there.

The distance from her to choji was a few feet, maybe a few yards at the most. This means her mind transfer traveles x distance in y time.

Now lets take that number (Lets say... 3yd/s) and apply it to the standard distance.

1yd is about 1 meter (0.9144 to be exact enough), and starting standard is 30.

So 10 seconds for MTJ to reach its final destination. Without prev knowledge, yeah it'll be an issue if they charge straight in... without moving to the side as would be standard since a straight charge is very bad defensively...

Thats if she can react to the person themselves. Shes not pulling a MTJ on hinata any time soon, if a debate topic isnt opened I'll explain why. As for sakura/tenten, they both would have prev knowledge on her handsign being she used it in the chunin exams era. Sakura evades, Tenten makes more distance and further reduces the effectiveness of Ino's only shown jutsu.

With no knowledge, the distance and the larger issue of movement > MTJ creates some problems.

Sooooo sorry. Shes getting alright, slightly better feats, but not enough.

[Shikamaru Nara]

Oh wow... I need to update this.

[Frost ninja]

Yes you do. Then after that debate me over something.

[Shikamaru Nara]

I'd rather not. I'm far too lazy to go through that again.

[Frost ninja]

3:
I thought you luuuuved me. Now I'm stuck being bored.

[Shikamaru Nara]

OP should be 100% updated now.

[Vivi]

She also saved Choji from Asuma's Burning Ash Cloud.

That was Dust Cloud


Chouza was the one who saved Chouji from Ash Cloud.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Frost ninja

I could debate against that... Ino is getting better but shes not getting up there.

The distance from her to choji was a few feet, maybe a few yards at the most. This means her mind transfer traveles x distance in y time.

Now lets take that number (Lets say... 3yd/s) and apply it to the standard distance.

1yd is about 1 meter (0.9144 to be exact enough), and starting standard is 30.

So 10 seconds for MTJ to reach its final destination. Without prev knowledge, yeah it'll be an issue if they charge straight in... without moving to the side as would be standard since a straight charge is very bad defensively...

Thats if she can react to the person themselves. Shes not pulling a MTJ on hinata any time soon, if a debate topic isnt opened I'll explain why. As for sakura/tenten, they both would have prev knowledge on her handsign being she used it in the chunin exams era. Sakura evades, Tenten makes more distance and further reduces the effectiveness of Ino's only shown jutsu.

With no knowledge, the distance and the larger issue of movement > MTJ creates some problems.

Sooooo sorry. Shes getting alright, slightly better feats, but not enough.

Irrelevant. Im talking in general. If you put Ino at 50 metres. Or at 15 metres, it wouldn't matter. She not only reacted to Asuma in her own body, but also in Chojis. Asuma is faster than Hinata, bare in mind. Ino reacted to Asumas Dust Cloud also, which moved extremely fast. Anything Hinata throws can be dodged. Hinata doesn't move that fast either in terms of moving around, so even if Ino takes aim and Hinata starts moving around, she can still easily take over her body. Inos Mind transfer travelled a greater distance when it was used against Sakura in Part I, or even whenever it was used on Kinkaku. So its not limited to a small distance of 1 metre. And even it takes longer to cover long distances, Hinata is a close range fighter - so thats irrelevant.

Tenten when put at a range can spam weapons all day. If Ino can react to and dodge Ash Cloud and then react to Asumas taijutsu attacks several times afterwards, theres absoloutly no reason why she can't dodge Tentens attacks. Which consist of kunai, giant swords, shuriken, a kunai grenade and exploding tags. Tenten can fire 15-20 kunai, fire more soon after, and then again, and again, but theres intervals where she has to aim at Ino. Small, but there none the less. Ino jumps out of the way of the first set, she does the same with the next. From what we've seen of Tenten, in the panel where she defeats her clone, she fires a good amount of weapons, maybe about 100 [as we probably don't see all of them] or so - before becoming tired out. Assuming she fired 20 kunai at once, thats 5 shots with her giant scroll lul And to say Ino couldn't jump out of the way of 5 of those shots, is proposterous. I should add, Tenten doesn't have exploding tags on all her weapons, a few at most.

Sakura is the fastest of these three girls. Being able to dodge attacks from Sasoris puppets and Iron Sand Blocks. Also dodging Itachis Giant Fireball and quickly defeating Peins Giant Centipede. Assuming she had knowledge on Ino, she could jump around quickly like she does to avoid attacks, and it would be doubtful that Ino could take aim. Particulary at a range, where you have proved [though it was obvious to begin with], that it will take longer for her mind to travel, if she's at a greater distance. If she doesn't have knowledge, Sakura being Sakura might rush in and try to swing a punch. Gives Ino the perfect chance to Mind Transfer her and win the match. Sakura and Ino are roughly on the same skill level now imo. Just depends on the conditions.

[Frost ninja]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

Irrelevant. Im talking in general. If you put Ino at 50 metres. Or at 15 metres, it wouldn't matter. She not only reacted to Asuma in her own body, but also in Chojis. Asuma is faster than Hinata, bare in mind. Ino reacted to Asumas Dust Cloud also, which moved extremely fast. Anything Hinata throws can be dodged. Hinata doesn't move that fast either in terms of moving around, so even if Ino takes aim and Hinata starts moving around, she can still easily take over her body. Inos Mind transfer travelled a greater distance when it was used against Sakura in Part I, or even whenever it was used on Kinkaku. So its not limited to a small distance of 1 metre. And even it takes longer to cover long distances, Hinata is a close range fighter - so thats irrelevant.

I can debate that and win against you if so, Hinata is faster. In fact, going off of feats Hinata could be one of the fastest.

So lets say theres no pev knowledge, default distance. If Ino doesn't get blitzed by hinata, what is she going to do? Her mind transfer only landed in part 1 because of the hair trap. In part 2, there was an immobile target and tons of prep time. Neither of your example puts a moving opponent into perspective. Rethink it.


Tenten when put at a range can spam weapons all day. If Ino can react to and dodge Ash Cloud and then react to Asumas taijutsu attacks several times afterwards, theres absoloutly no reason why she can't dodge Tentens attacks. Which consist of kunai, giant swords, shuriken, a kunai grenade and exploding tags. Tenten can fire 15-20 kunai, fire more soon after, and then again, and again, but theres intervals where she has to aim at Ino. Small, but there none the less. Ino jumps out of the way of the first set, she does the same with the next. From what we've seen of Tenten, in the panel where she defeats her clone, she fires a good amount of weapons, maybe about 100 [as we probably don't see all of them] or so - before becoming tired out. Assuming she fired 20 kunai at once, thats 5 shots with her giant scroll lul And to say Ino couldn't jump out of the way of 5 of those shots, is proposterous. I should add, Tenten doesn't have exploding tags on all her weapons, a few at most.



Ok so lets say that she is fighting tenten, and gets in close range. What the hell is she going to do then before getting bo-staffed? She jumps out of the way of a DUST cloud that, in all honesty, one could say was aimed at the mask itself and not the kids from Asuma's lack of "sweeping" with it. I, of course, mean he just shot it in one direction instead of turning and chasing with the shot. She also reacted to an asuma whom was clearly shown to be holding back quite often, almost to where choji landed a punch on him moving at base speeds. Her reactions are not great, and I wouldnt say they will allow her to run from a spread-out shot. She did alright in Choji's body, which is impressive but says nothing for her own self. If I were put into a stronger body, I'm sure I could work some better feats than my base self. She has to attack sometime, being Tenten will eventually hit her. Even if she misses every shot (Something I dont think will happen due to Ino's own lack of good feats), Ino will eventually tire from dodging while all tenten has to do is stand there and throw. If she can dodge at all. And then she has to land MTJ on tenten, a feat I'd deem near impossible with how Tenten herself works.

Sakura is the fastest of these three girls. (Debatable) Being able to dodge attacks from Sasoris puppets and Iron Sand Blocks. Also dodging Itachis Giant Fireball and quickly defeating Peins Giant Centipede. Assuming she had knowledge on Ino, she could jump around quickly like she does to avoid attacks, and it would be doubtful that Ino could take aim. Particulary at a range, where you have proved [though it was obvious to begin with], that it will take longer for her mind to travel, if she's at a greater distance. If she doesn't have knowledge, Sakura being Sakura might rush in and try to swing a punch. Gives Ino the perfect chance to Mind Transfer her and win the match. Sakura and Ino are roughly on the same skill level now imo. Just depends on the conditions.

Your talking like Ino has something to go off of. How will she react to a sakura punch? She has nothing to beat sakura, tenten, and especially not hinata with. She doesn't move fast enough to avoid someone who is actually TRYING to kill her, and anyone with even normal knowledge can beat her. With no knowledge, people who fight at a distance or don't half-ass their way to her can beat her. She has one jutsu, its effectiveness is basically zero at a distance and against a moving opponent, theres no good feats to back it. Unless your fighting a tree, Ino isn't going to land it. Past her jutsu, she doesn't have taijutsu skills in her own body, nor does she have good reaction feats due to Asuma constanly holding back on them.

in red

[mikeiskewl922]

Asuma wasn't controlling his body. Kabuto was.

Her mind transfer only landed in part 1 because of the hair trap. In part 2, there was an immobile target and tons of prep time.

In Part 1: Ino was nearly out of chakra after fighting for 10 striaght minutes with Sakura, don't forget. And she didn't have a lot of prep time, showing as she stood up and did the jutsu.

In Part 2: Kinkaku had already broken out of Shadow Possession and was already on the move. Even though it was only a slight movement, he was still about to move. He wasn't necessarily immobile and Ino ended up hitting him in the split-second before he moved.

[Frost ninja]

Originally Posted by mikeiskewl922

Asuma wasn't controlling his body. Kabuto was.

Explain the constant stops, the waiting for choji to punch him, the talking, the lack of a dust sweep motion, etc etc



In Part 1: Ino was nearly out of chakra after fighting for 10 striaght minutes with Sakura, don't forget. And she didn't have a lot of prep time, showing as she stood up and did the jutsu.

Hair trap stopped sakura from moving. Point stands, not a moving target. No evasion possibility means MTJ lacks accuracy.


In Part 2: Kinkaku had already broken out of Shadow Possession and was already on the move. Even though it was only a slight movement, he was still about to move. He wasn't necessarily immobile and Ino ended up hitting him in the split-second before he moved.

In what direction, how far? She only has to come in contact iirc to take over or something to that sort. Big target, minimal movement, minimal accuracy.

in red

[mikeiskewl922]

Explain the constant stops, the waiting for choji to punch him, the talking, the lack of a dust sweep motion, etc etc

He had a little control, but when Choji was going for a punch, he had his arms up to gaurd it, knowing that he couldn't do anything to counter it in the small time frame that he had.

Hair trap stopped sakura from moving. Point stands, not a moving target. No evasion possibility means MTJ lacks accuracy.

I know, I meant that she didn't have a lot of prep time. I know that Sakura was immobile.

In what direction, how far? She only has to come in contact iirc to take over or something to that sort. Big target, minimal movement, minimal accuracy.

The point is that she hit it in the split-second that she had before it moved. He was a very, VERY fast mover, and the fact that Ino caught him before he could move shows the speed of MT.

Greeeeeen.