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Old 02-16-2011, 06:31 PM   #1
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alright I'll go for shino on this one

As we've seen Shikamaru is very intellegent but shino is pretty smart to. At 50 meters i don't think shikamaru could get a shadow on him before he releases his bugs. Shino is better at fighting from a distance and shikamaru is more of a close range fighter which gives shino the advantage here and at this distance. Shino could make a large swarm and sneak some around the back. He can try to get shikamaru in the bug globe and constantly keep shikamaru moving so he can't capture him in his shadow. while shika is busy with them Shino can bring his bugs up from behind and capture shika sucking out his chakra resulting in the end of the match
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Shino has a massive advantage here with his Bugs cause I doubt Shikamaru can shadow Possess Thousands if not Millions of Bugs.
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Shikamaru has no counter for bug globe.
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Shinos limited to the bugs he can control though =/

Besides, if they're travelling in a large bunch they're going to leave a shadow on the ground. Couldn't Shikamaru take control of them?
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Shinos limited to the bugs he can control though =/

Besides, if they're travelling in a large bunch they're going to leave a shadow on the ground. Couldn't Shikamaru take control of them?
I'd like to see him control millions of them, while Shino's also attacking.
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The biggest amount of bugs Shino has ever controlled at one time is when he used Bug Globe, his strongest technique. There were a lot of bugs but once they close in on Shikamaru they should be easier to catch. Shikamaru was able to catch about a dozen Sound ninja at once using his Shadow possession during the Sound and Sand Invasion , iirc. He was able to hold all of them for some time despite already using up all his energy fighting Temari and then moving through the forest for a long time. And this was in Part I =/

Shino sucks at fighting without the use of his bugs. If Shikamaru gains control of them he can suffocate Shino with them. It'd be match over =/ I know if the bugs spread out and flew high in the air they wouldn't leave a shadow. But considering Shino usually has his bugs fly fairly low to the ground, and travel in packs together. I think catching them with Shadow Posession should be very doable.
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The biggest amount of bugs Shino has ever controlled at one time is when he used Bug Globe, his strongest technique. There were a lot of bugs but once they close in on Shikamaru they should be easier to catch. Shikamaru was able to catch about a dozen Sound ninja at once using his Shadow possession during the Sound and Sand Invasion , iirc. He was able to hold all of them for some time despite already using up all his energy fighting Temari and then moving through the forest for a long time. And this was in Part I =/

Shino sucks at fighting without the use of his bugs. If Shikamaru gains control of them he can suffocate Shino with them. It'd be match over =/ I know if the bugs spread out and flew high in the air they wouldn't leave a shadow. But considering Shino usually has his bugs fly fairly low to the ground, and travel in packs together. I think catching them with Shadow Posession should be very doable.
How his control jumps from 12 to 12,000 is beyond my understanding.

Not if they surround him all at once, which is what they will do for Bug Globe.
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Shinos limited to the bugs he can control though =/

Besides, if they're travelling in a large bunch they're going to leave a shadow on the ground. Couldn't Shikamaru take control of them?
He's able to cast that many shadows at once? Bug globe has billions of bugs, Shikamaru can maybe produce 50 shadow threads.
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What about the Kunai trap Shikamaru used on hidan?Without any Knowledge Shino would be caught instantly. Hidan had vastly superior reactions to Shino. I am pretty sure Shino wouldn't be able to avoid it.
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What about the Kunai trap Shikamaru used on hidan?Without any Knowledge Shino would be caught instantly. Hidan had vastly superior reactions to Shino. I am pretty sure Shino wouldn't be able to avoid it.
You mean the trench knife thing? That won't stop the bugs.
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What about the Kunai trap Shikamaru used on hidan?Without any Knowledge Shino would be caught instantly. Hidan had vastly superior reactions to Shino. I am pretty sure Shino wouldn't be able to avoid it.
Trench Knives?

Where does he get the prep to set that up? He had days thinking up a plan.
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Where does he get the prep to set that up? He had days thinking up a plan.
Who is to say that Asuma Knives aren't standard tech for him now? We haven't really seen him fight since then.
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We haven't really seen him fight since then, so we wouldn't really know, now would we?
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Its not about how many its about the size of the shadow he has to cast. The bigger the shadow and longer he uses it the more chakra he has to use. I could understand like 12,000 humans but not bugs. They're tiny. Even when in groups, I have no doubt Shikamaru could catch them.

The bugs would have to travel 50 metres first to surround him. Also, if they surround him there are loooads of shadows in a space of about 1-5 metres. Shikamarus shadow posession if very fast, even if he doesn't catch all of them for some reason, he can catch enough of them to make their chakra sucking jutsu have minimal effects.

Also note he can could use the many shadows of the bugs to increase the distance of his shadow possession, and potentially catch Shino. Also, considering its noon. Theres bound to be shadows in the surrounding area already. Shikamaru can use those to further the range of his jutsu. The bugs aren't really fast tbh. No faster than the average ninja at least. Shikamaru dodged attacks from Kakuzus masks did he not? A shunshin could flicker himself from the bugs location =/

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I think the only one he truly dodged was the fire blast, which everyone else avoided. He can't control the bugs when they're buzzing all around him.
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No, didn't he side step some of the electric blasts? Hold on, I'll try find the chapter
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Well wait...
Shino's bugs have eaten chakra chords...
Why can't they eat shadows that also use chakra to attach themselves to the bugs?
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