Ben Tennyson vs. Sasuke

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Kazumi Saitama

I fail to see how Sasuke would reach Ben before he slammed his wrist and many aliens can regenerate.



Sasuke is transonic, low supersonic at best and that would be in bursts. Not fast enough to reach Ben before he activates the Ultimatrix.



Sasuke is faster than base Ben. Ben goes alien and Sasuke is screwed.

How will Sasuke counter telekinesis, telepathy, flight, intangibility, energy absorption, regeneration, insane durability, crystalkinesis, sonic blasts, numerous clones, possession and the list continues. Alien X is overkill.

Itachi did give Naruto something, though this has not been revealed yet. However, Itachi was still dying from extreme illness while battling Sasuke.

Itachi tanked Kirin.

this was right until you said he tanked kirin, susanoo tanked kirin

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NBT

Big Chill is intangible.Just sayin

So was Danzo. Difference Danzo stays intangible big chill doesn't.

[NBT]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

So was Danzo. Difference Danzo stays intangible big chill doesn't.

For 10 minutes.Prove Big Chill has limited intANGIBILITY.PLUS HE FREEZES ANYTHING HE FLIES THROUGH.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NBT

For 10 minutes.Prove Big Chill has limited intANGIBILITY.PLUS HE FREEZES ANYTHING HE FLIES THROUGH.

The fact he gets blasted constantly. If he could stay intangible why doesn't he. Him touching Sasuke is a big if. Sasuke manga and anime speed>>>>>>Big chill speed.

[NBT]

When does Big Chill ger blasted?If so,I'd assume PIS.

Sasuke tries chidori and gets frozen.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NBT

When does Big Chill ger blasted?If so,I'd assume PIS.

Sasuke tries chidori and gets frozen.

Blasted punched etc that form has been slapped around a couple of times.

Chidori doubtful probably amaterasu or tsukiyomi way faster. Also chidori is a projectile also.

[NBT]

Like I said,probably PIS.

Why is chidori doubtful?

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NBT

Like I said,probably PIS.

Why is chidori doubtful?

This fight can go alot of ways. Sasuke goes close combat and gets frozen due to Big chill going intangible. Big chill starts freezing the area Sasuke stay out of his range and attack from afar. The fight between them depends. Sasuke is faster thats why I say he has the edge.

Dunno I always assume Tsukiyomi and amaterasu are his fatser moves.

[NBT]

Yeah,but intangibility makes his attacks useless.
Well,if Big Chill can't catch him,he transforms into something else.Like Alien X.

I think you missed my point.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by NBT

Yeah,but intangibility makes his attacks useless.
Well,if Big Chill can't catch him,he transforms into something else.Like Alien X.

I think you missed my point.

You are forgetting how fast his attacks are. Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi are pretty instant. Yeah Alien x would rape. Funny thing about that transformation he can't control it.

Probably did.

[NBT]

Tsukuyomi.I guess.
Amaterasu<intangibility

Young Ben can't.Big Ben can.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

The counter is simple is speed. Most of Ben transformations can't match him in speed. Tsukiyomi would still mind rape all of Ben transformations except for Alien X. Then there is the fact every transformation doesn't have regeneration. Amterasu is another option. The type of destruction kirin puts out his strongest aliens can barely match. Alien X is the only one in my opinion that stands a chance.

But before that Sasuke has shown has shown high speeds in controlled burts and at distances. Remember the scene when Sasuke and Naruto met up for the first time in part 2. The scene where Naruto blinked and he was at his shoulder. Thats why it is not that far fetched Sasuke Killing Ben before he pushes that button.

Speed alone will not aid Sasuke in a successful victory. Ben has way too many aliens at his disposal. Speed will not aid him when Brainstorm uses telekinesis to crush his ass and telepathy to mindrape him while frying him with lightning. Amaterasu or Lightning Based Jutsu will not work effectively against Crystalline Humanoids, such as Chromastone and Diamondhead. Considering Genjutsu affects the brain, I do not see what stops Ben from transforming into another alien, thus disrupting the Genjutsu. Not every alien can regenerate, but many can. And Sasuke is not doing shit against aliens that are intangible for extended periods of time. Sasuke has nothing to counter waves of sonic blasts from multiple targets. Hell, Sasuke would have trouble alone trying to avoid being smashed by Way Big. And Sasuke is not countering any aliens like Jetray before getting a laser to the face. Alien X would rape Sasuke.

Chapter 307: Pages 14-15 (MangaReader.net)
The distance between Sasuke and Naruto is not 100 meters.

Sasuke reaching Blood Lusted Ben before he activates his Ultimatrix is slim to none. You are not convincing me or others of such speed from Sasuke. Sasuke covering 329 feet in less than a second is preposterous.

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by NBT

Tsukuyomi.I guess.
Amaterasu<intangibility

Young Ben can't.Big Ben can.

This is current Ben. Young Ben did not have the Ultimatrix.

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

That is debatable considering people run the 100 meter in the 10 sec range. Sasuke>>>>>Normal humans.


Not really they were about dead even aside from that Kirin reaction feet. Show me a scene of a part 2 Sasuke getting blitzed by Itachi. Sasuke is even faster than that now.

actually the fastest 100meters was 9.58 seconds in mens time
and somewhere around 10.4 seconds for womans
and sasuke is almost certain to be faster then them so i don't think it'd be hard for sasuke to dash or shunshin to ben before he can slap his hand

i don't follow ben 10 but i do remember he has to look through the aliens to choose one
i don't know about teenage ben but he defanatly had to as 10 year old ben. and if he just slaps the watch what if it gives him that little grey alien thing?

however if he can automatically pick out his top teir aliens he should be able to beat sasuke. still i don't know sasuke is pretty fast so i still think he could get to ben before ben has the chance to get to alien X. Sasuke was able at least keep up with A who is calculated to be at least hypersonic IRC which again IIRC is what mach 5? so 5 times the speed of sound which is 343.2m/s so lets just say sasuke moves at the speed of sound although he may be faster. Thats 343.2 meters a second so 100m would take around a third of a second. If tried it a few times and it took me less then half a second to slap my wrist. This doesn't take into account that the watch has to do its little pop up thing then ben presses it down.

Now if sasuke is only mach1 then ben should be able to go alien before he gets to him. If sasuke is faster then mach 1 then sasuke can get to him first.

EDIT: according to the OBD sasuke is supersonic aka above mach 1. He should be able to get to ben even if it just means cutting off his arm before he gets the chance to use the watch

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by Slack 40

actually the fastest 100meters was 9.58 seconds in mens time
and somewhere around 10.4 seconds for womans
and sasuke is almost certain to be faster then them so i don't think it'd be hard for sasuke to dash or shunshin to ben before he can slap his hand

i don't follow ben 10 but i do remember he has to look through the aliens to choose one
i don't know about teenage ben but he defanatly had to as 10 year old ben. and if he just slaps the watch what if it gives him that little grey alien thing?

Ben is Blood Lusted, so he would automatically slap his wrist. This is older Ben, who can instantly switch aliens once transformed. The chances of Ben randomly selecting Grey Matter out of 1,000,000+ aliens is slim to none.

Originally Posted by Slack 40

however if he can automatically pick out his top teir aliens he should be able to beat sasuke. still i don't know sasuke is pretty fast so i still think he could get to ben before ben has the chance to get to alien X. Sasuke was able at least keep up with A who is calculated to be at least hypersonic IRC which again IIRC is what mach 5? so 5 times the speed of sound which is 343.2m/s so lets just say sasuke moves at the speed of sound although he may be faster. Thats 343.2 meters a second so 100m would take around a third of a second. If tried it a few times and it took me less then half a second to slap my wrist. This doesn't take into account that the watch has to do its little pop up thing then ben presses it down.

Now if sasuke is only mach1 then ben should be able to go alien before he gets to him. If sasuke is faster then mach 1 then sasuke can get to him first.

Sasuke got wth blitzed by A several times. Sasuke is transonic. He can travel low supersonic in bursts.

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Kazumi Saitama

Ben is Blood Lusted, so he would automatically slap his wrist. This is older Ben, who can instantly switch aliens once transformed. The chances of Ben randomly selecting Grey Matter out of 1,000,000+ aliens is slim to none.



Sasuke got wth blitzed by A several times. Sasuke is transonic. He can travel low supersonic in bursts.

100m would be bursts for narutoverse would it not?

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by Slack 40

100m would be bursts for narutoverse would it not?

100 m/s

Ben would activate his Ultimatrix in less than a second. Try milliseconds.

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Kazumi Saitama

100 m/s

Ben would activate his Ultimatrix in less than a second. Try milliseconds.

i doubt ben can slap his omnitrix faster then i can slap my wrist
He may have many super aliens but that doesn't mean his own human body is any better then an average humans

and 100m/s isn't that difficult for somone who can move supersonic speeds in naruto verse that would still be a small burst

[Kazumi Saitama]

Originally Posted by Slack 40

i doubt ben can slap his omnitrix faster then i can slap my wrist
He may have many super aliens but that doesn't mean his own human body is any better then an average humans

and 100m/s isn't that difficult for somone who can move supersonic speeds in naruto verse that would still be a small burst

It takes you a whole second to slap your wrist? :/
Funny, it took me less. >.>

Considering Sasuke is Blood Lusted, Sasuke would cover enough ground to cast a powerful jutsu or automatically start prepping Kirin. Sasuke has no knowledge of Ben, so how would he know to aim for the Ultimatrix?

[Devil's Lawyer]

Ben transforms whatever creature would catch a chidori to the chest before they have a chance to do anything. Tsukiyomi or amaterasu would be a fight ender. He has a 1,000,000+ aliens true. But how many of them can match Sasuke. Way big still can't stop an amaterasu to the face. Which by the way can't be put out. Alien X is the only creature that would walk all over Sasuke.