Battlegrounds Databook

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

At least give Bee a 6 in intelligence or something, he's not that stupid and he's at least as smart as his brother. He only appears that way because he spends much of his time writing raps, which is only when he doesn't take the opponent seriously.

Edit: Along with this, Sage Jiraiya showed some incredible stamina, speed, and attacking speed feats, so I think he should get some higher stats.

Edit edit: What makes Ino smarter than Karin?

She tricks Pre Sakura with her Hair Trap Jutsu.
She has considerable knowledge, to be able to learn and become profficient - with medical ninjutsu. She has knowledge on flowers also, because of her occupation. She's also able to help Shizune figure out Peins jutsu. She also has good book smarts, as she got the highest grades of her year in the academy.

I wouldn't say Ino is significantly smarter than Karin, but I think Ino might have a slight advantage.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

She tricks Pre Sakura with her Hair Trap Jutsu.
She has considerable knowledge, to be able to learn and become profficient - with medical ninjutsu. She has knowledge on flowers also, because of her occupation. She's also able to help Shizune figure out Peins jutsu. She also has good book smarts, as she got the highest grades of her year in the academy.

I wouldn't say Ino is significantly smarter than Karin, but I think Ino might have a slight advantage.

Hair trap jutsu is clever but... ehh. Karin was able to figure out Danzo's jutsu and use that to help Sasuke.

Karin should have a lot of knowledge too considering the fact that she ran Orochimaru's prisons for a while.

[NagatoGod_of_Pain]

This probably isn't necessary, but do you think a total should be added at the end? I know people can add the numbers up by themselves, but it can be helpful for a quick glance at the totals to see which similar characters are better.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Hair trap jutsu is clever but... ehh. Karin was able to figure out Danzo's jutsu and use that to help Sasuke.

Karin should have a lot of knowledge too considering the fact that she ran Orochimaru's prisons for a while.

She used her Minds Eye of Kagura though. It wasn't like she did it on her own. And she only figured out it wasn't a normal genjutsu or ninjutsu. She never really discovered what it did until Danzo explained it iirc. or was it Madara?

She should have a lot of knowledge on the structure of Orochimarus Prison. And on the Curse Mark jutsu. But thats about it. Karin also left her Village as [presumably] a Genin. Inos had more experience going on missions, fighting in the Chunin Exams twice etc. so I think her intelligence would at least be somewhat higher.

Originally Posted by NagatoGod_of_Pain

This probably isn't necessary, but do you think a total should be added at the end? I know people can add the numbers up by themselves, but it can be helpful for a quick glance at the totals to see which similar characters are better.

Mm. It wouldn't help us in debates tbh. If anything, it would just let us see what rough skill level everyone is on. Of course, we know that already - from feats. A bit pointless if you ask me.

[The 1st Hokage]

I'm highly disappointed to see Itachi with a measely 8.5 as his speed. I'd put him at 15/10 for being GODtachi.

[Shikamaru Nara]

That is precisely why he scored low and pretty much everyone agreed despite the fact that you're the only one who protested.

[Yori]

I didn't agree on his speed.

[Shikamaru Nara]

You gave a legit reason, though.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

She used her Minds Eye of Kagura though. It wasn't like she did it on her own. And she only figured out it wasn't a normal genjutsu or ninjutsu. She never really discovered what it did until Danzo explained it iirc. or was it Madara?

She should have a lot of knowledge on the structure of Orochimarus Prison. And on the Curse Mark jutsu. But thats about it. Karin also left her Village as [presumably] a Genin. Inos had more experience going on missions, fighting in the Chunin Exams twice etc. so I think her intelligence would at least be somewhat higher.

Of course she's gonna use Kagura, it's her only technique and she has every right to use it to her advantage.

I believe she did figure it out, with maybe a tip from Madara, but even Maddy remarked on how useful she was. I don't think I've ever seen anything stellar from Ino except for the hair trap thing.

Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

I'm highly disappointed to see Itachi with a measely 8.5 as his speed. I'd put him at 15/10 for being GODtachi.

I'd have him at 9, but lol.

[Midnight789]

Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

I'm highly disappointed to see Itachi with a measely 8.5 as his speed. I'd put him at 15/10 for being GODtachi.

making him a 10/10 in speed would put him in par with A, Might Guy, The Fourth and Killerbee.
We all know that his speed is not better than the people i mentioned. i think a 8.5 is prefect for him.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Of course she's gonna use Kagura, it's her only technique and she has every right to use it to her advantage.

I believe she did figure it out, with maybe a tip from Madara, but even Maddy remarked on how useful she was. I don't think I've ever seen anything stellar from Ino except for the hair trap thing.

I'd have him at 9, but lol.

Yeh I know that, but I'm just saying. Any sensor, who had knowledge on how genjutsus work, probably could've figured out just as much as she did. Its fairly basic intelligence imo, as I don't think she completely understood the jutsu.


As I've already pointed out, Ino has a bit more hype from medical ninjutsu, Chunin Exams twice, flowers, more battle experience etc.

[Lady Tsunade]

No. Itachi was extremely fast on his own. Without his crow jutsu he easily kept up with Sasuke and Kakashi. I believe he also blitzed Sasuke at one point? Iiirc? I can't remember what chapter it was though =/

[Yori]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

No. Itachi was extremely fast on his own. Without his crow jutsu he easily kept up with Sasuke and Kakashi. I believe he also blitzed Sasuke at one point? Iiirc? I can't remember what chapter it was though =/

It was some moves after their shuriken round

[Shikamaru Nara]

Originally Posted by Laxeres

He " Blitzed" Sasuke in the old Naruto, Volume 17 I think? IDK, Let me check with mer lady friend.

Kuro HELP! LMAO!

Too bad it's PTS

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Too bad it's PTS

xD Lololol

@Yeh, I thought that too Yori. We need chapter specialist Vivi here =/

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

Yeh I know that, but I'm just saying. Any sensor, who had knowledge on how genjutsus work, probably could've figured out just as much as she did. Its fairly basic intelligence imo, as I don't think she completely understood the jutsu.


As I've already pointed out, Ino has a bit more hype from medical ninjutsu, Chunin Exams twice, flowers, more battle experience etc.

Then tell me what Ino has done to compare, specifically, her managing to analyze something and make accurate assumptions about it. Also, Karin's sensor jutsu was like no other.

Flower knowledge won't help much... just sayin... xD Karin spent a while with Orochimaru and his prison and not only did she at least take part in the first Chunin Exams, but she also got involved in some of Sasuke's fights so that evens out whatever else Ino's got, aside from medical ninjutsu.

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

No. Itachi was extremely fast on his own. Without his crow jutsu he easily kept up with Sasuke and Kakashi. I believe he also blitzed Sasuke at one point? Iiirc? I can't remember what chapter it was though =/

I think Itachi only blitzed in a genjutsu.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Then tell me what Ino has done to compare, specifically, her managing to analyze something and make accurate assumptions about it. Also, Karin's sensor jutsu was like no other.

Flower knowledge won't help much... just sayin... xD Karin spent a while with Orochimaru and his prison and not only did she at least take part in the first Chunin Exams, but she also got involved in some of Sasuke's fights so that evens out whatever else Ino's got, aside from medical ninjutsu.

I think Itachi only blitzed in a genjutsu.

Ino manages to see that Peins jutsu is quite similar to her Clans Mind Transfer jutsu, as he's able to control other bodies while he himself is probably immobile. The only difference she noted was that he was able to control several bodies at once. She also figured out that the real Pein would've needed to be fairly close to the Metal Chakra recievers, for his jutsu to work. This benefited Shizune greatly.

How so? If she has great knowledge of lots of different types of flowers she could be capable of creating different types of herbal mixtures. Which could aid her as medic, and in battle. Also, don't forget the great knowledge she needs to have, to be a medic. Spending a while in Orochimarus prison might enhance her knowledge of the Curse Mark and maybe some of his Prisoners but thats about it. She took part in the First Chunin Exam, got separated from her teammates and nearly killed by a Giant Bear. You could argue she was pretty stupid then actually, if she was so lost that she couldn't find them - she could've just used her Minds Eye of Kagura to find them xD But instead she just whined. The most knowledge Karin has gotten from her fights with Sasuke is knowledge on other peoples abilities, and maybe how to work as a team. Of course, Ino has formed the Ino-Shika-Cho formation, Team 10's teamwork is probably the strongest out of any team so I think Karins knowledge there is lacking.

In terms of the abilities she's seen from others. Notably - she's seen several Kages abilities, KB, Danzo, Sasuke, Jugo, Orochimaru and maybe Kabuto. Ino has notably seen Kakashi, Kakuzu, Hidan, Tsunade, Asuma, ET zombies, Zetsu and she's likely to have knowledge on a lot more Konoha ninja too. So even then, I think her knowledge on other people exceeds Karins.

[The 1st Hokage]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

making him a 10/10 in speed would put him in par with A, Might Guy, The Fourth and Killerbee.
We all know that his speed is not better than the people i mentioned. i think a 8.5 is prefect for him.

A >>>Sasuke<<< Itachi

I highly disagree with Minato's 10 for a speed. His reactions were impressive enough for a 10, no doubt about that, but base speed a 10?

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

Ino manages to see that Peins jutsu is quite similar to her Clans Mind Transfer jutsu, as he's able to control other bodies while he himself is probably immobile. The only difference she noted was that he was able to control several bodies at once. She also figured out that the real Pein would've needed to be fairly close to the Metal Chakra recievers, for his jutsu to work. This benefited Shizune greatly.

How so? If she has great knowledge of lots of different types of flowers she could be capable of creating different types of herbal mixtures. Which could aid her as medic, and in battle. Also, don't forget the great knowledge she needs to have, to be a medic. Spending a while in Orochimarus prison might enhance her knowledge of the Curse Mark and maybe some of his Prisoners but thats about it. She took part in the First Chunin Exam, got separated from her teammates and nearly killed by a Giant Bear. You could argue she was pretty stupid then actually, if she was so lost that she couldn't find them - she could've just used her Minds Eye of Kagura to find them xD But instead she just whined. Maybe she didn't have it back then P: The most knowledge Karin has gotten from her fights with Sasuke is knowledge on other peoples abilities, and maybe how to work as a team. Of course, Ino has formed the Ino-Shika-Cho formation, Team 10's teamwork is probably the strongest out of any team so I think Karins knowledge there is lacking.

In terms of the abilities she's seen from others. Notably - she's seen several Kages abilities, KB, Danzo, Sasuke, Jugo, Orochimaru and maybe Kabuto. Ino has notably seen Kakashi, Kakuzu, Hidan, Tsunade, Asuma, ET zombies, Zetsu and she's likely to have knowledge on a lot more Konoha ninja too. So even then, I think her knowledge on other people exceeds Karins.

I highlighted the parts that she did figure out. Most of it was Inoichi's and Shizune's work unfortunately.

She never showed anything with flowers in battle except for that one time when she was a kid and she threw flowers at some girl's mouth.

Originally Posted by The 1st Hokage

A >>>Sasuke<<< Itachi

I highly disagree with Minato's 10 for a speed. His reactions were impressive enough for a 10, no doubt about that, but base speed a 10?

For one he's called the Yellow Flash, and when Naruto did his shunshin against Kisame, Yamato said it was inferior to Yondaime's.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

I highlighted the parts that she did figure out. Most of it was Inoichi's and Shizune's work unfortunately.

She never showed anything with flowers in battle except for that one time when she was a kid and she threw flowers at some girl's mouth.

For one he's called the Yellow Flash, and when Naruto did his shunshin against Kisame, Yamato said it was inferior to Yondaime's.

I cbf looking for chapters, but even so - thats impressive enough.

Apply a little a hype. If she has knowledge that a flower is poisonous, why not apply that to battle or for medical reasons?