Sasori vs. Zommari

WindScar22 · 01-23-2011, 07:07 PM

The Akatsuki member and puppet master Sasori vs. the dangerous Espada 7 in Aizen's Arrancar army and body-controller Zommari Rureaux.

Area: Where Ichigo and Grimmjow fought.

Distance: 100 feet

Scenario 1: Sasori starts with the 3rd Kazekage and the Mother and Father puppets. He can use Hiruko and his true form if necessary. Speed equalized.

Scenario 2: Sasori can only use 25 of his 100 puppets at a time, and can use no other puppets. He can use Hiruko or his true form if necessary. Speed equalized.

Sorry. I'm just trying to make this as close to a real fight as possible.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:09 PM

Zommari was fast enough to create afterimage clones of himself. He also was on par with Bankai Bykuya.

A.K.A Zommari blitzes the living crap out of Sasori and his puppets. One or two cero/ bala is all it takes to completely destroy Sasori's main body.

Miles Edgeworth · 01-23-2011, 07:12 PM

I'm pretty sure Zommari blitzes considering he was keeping up with Byakuya and it took Gokei to take him out.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:13 PM

Not to mention he could take control over any of the puppets he wanted, Sasori included.

He could just make his own little army.

Miles Edgeworth · 01-23-2011, 07:16 PM

That too.

Zommari only lost against Byakuya cause he was a bad opponent for him. Zommari would have decimated Kenpachi and I wonder if Byakuya could have done as well against Nnoitra as Kenpachi did.

Funny how plot-based matches work out.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 07:20 PM

Unrelease zommari-Zommari speedblitz the hell out of sasori.

Released-Released zommari is immobilized so he would have to take all of the attacks sasori throws at him.Zommari can only control upto 50 body so noway he could defeat sasori hundreds puppets.He could capture 50 puppets while the rest of them shred him.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

Unrelease zommari-Zommari speedblitz the hell out of sasori.

Released-Released zommari is immobilized so he would have to take all of the attacks sasori throws at him.Zommari can only control upto 50 body so noway he could defeat sasori hundreds puppets.He could capture 50 puppets while the rest of them shred him.

He's immobilized?

Where did you get that information from? He was still able to move while in his released form.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 07:26 PM

In the anime he sonido for a short distance while released but in the manga he never move even when byakuya came in for the kill.Manga is for canon than anime.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:28 PM

I know that.

I'm saying he could still move. He just never did. There's no proof at all that he was completely immobile while released. He could move his limbs, he could speak, he could hide inside his shell thing, etc.

That's plenty of movement to prove that he retains full mobility.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 07:31 PM

He could move is arms,head etc because he got those limb but doesnt have any leg to move.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

He could move is arms,head etc because he got those limb but doesnt have any leg to move.

Bleach characters can move without legs.

Byakuya was moving just like normal without the use of half his body.

Also, Bleach characters can solidify Reaistu underneath themselves to allow them to float on thin air. Things like that mean you don't need limbs to move.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 07:37 PM

Actuall i got this info off the bleach wiki.If he is retain his locomotion than why doesnt he open a garganta and escape.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

Actuall i got this info off the bleach wiki.If he is retain his locomotion than why doesnt he open a garganta and escape.

Because it wouldn't have been nearly fast enough.

Gargantas take a few seconds to open up. Byakuya's attack took only a moment to converge on Zommari and hit him. He was surrounded on all sides, he had nowhere to run, and he was completely trapped.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 07:49 PM

When byukuya finish the petal blade dome attacks,the field is clear.If zommari could really move why couldnt he use sonido to decrease the distance between him and byakuya and then open a gargantas.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

When byukuya finish the petal blade dome attacks,the field is clear.If zommari could really move why couldnt he use sonido to decrease the distance between him and byakuya and then open a gargantas.

1. Plot
2. More plot
4. He was in a state of panic because his "ultimate technique" had been completely nullified and he was fighting a dude who was willing to cut off his leg and arm in order to win.
3. HE WAS SURROUNDED ON ALL SIDES. The reason the field was clear was because the petals had been formed back into Byakuya's sword and his Bankai had been dispelled. There was nowhere for Zommari to move without being sliced to ribbons, and if he didn't move he'd be sliced to ribbons anyway. It was a lose lose situation. His only hope was to put up a defense and try to defend himself from fatal injury.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 08:00 PM

If prerelease zommari speed can match byukuya then released zommari speed would surpass him by powerscaling.It take time for byakuya to activate his bankai again after he deactivate it.Zommari could just sonido away while byakuya bankai is forming.The only reason i could think of why he didnt is because he cant move at all.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

If prerelease zommari speed can match byukuya then released zommari speed would surpass him by powerscaling.It take time for byakuya to activate his bankai again after he deactivate it.Zommari could just sonido away while byakuya bankai is forming.The only reason i could think of why he didnt is because he cant move at all.

why would his release give him a speed boost? His release has NOTHING to do with speed.

Byakuya's Bankai doesn't make him faster. It just gives him more abilities. It's exactly the same with Zommari. And Byakuya can activate/deactivate his Bankai in mere moments. In fact, time seems to "slow" whenever he uses his Bankai, almost as if he's in his own time/world while it's being released.

And Byakuya already had his Bankai OUT while Zommari was in his release. That, combined with the Bankai's speed, Zommari's state of panic, plot, and being SURROUNDED, meant Zommari COULDN'T move even if he wanted to.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 08:07 PM

Byakuya bankai take quite some time to activate.He need to declare "Bankai" then drop his sword on the ground.Then rows of sword would emerge from the ground and scatter into petals.After byakuya attack zommari with gokai his zanpakuto is already deactivate so he slash him instead of using his petal.

SageoftheSixPaths · 01-23-2011, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by deathraiser

Byakuya bankai take quite some time to activate.He need to declare "Bankai" then drop his sword on the ground.Then rows of sword would emerge from the ground and scatter into petals.After byakuya attack zommari with gokai his zanpakuto is already deactivate so he slash him instead of using his petal.

Again:

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Byakuya can activate/deactivate his Bankai in mere moments. In fact, time seems to "slow" whenever he uses his Bankai, almost as if he's in his own time/world while it's being released.

His Bankai happens almost instantly, because otherwise he'd be open to attack for 15 or so seconds. That's a ridiculous amount of time to be defenseless. If that were true, ANYBODY could have beaten Byakuya in the time it takes his Bankai to release. What you see as the sword dropping and petals scattering is all just for dramatic effect. Either that, or everything in the universe is immobile for the time it takes to release his Bankai.

Zommari was too badly injured to move at ALL after he'd been hit. He was dying as the attack dissipated.

deathraiser · 01-23-2011, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by SageoftheSixPaths

Again:

His Bankai happens almost instantly, because otherwise he'd be open to attack for 15 or so seconds. That's a ridiculous amount of time to be defenseless. If that were true, ANYBODY could have beaten Byakuya in the time it takes his Bankai to release. What you see as the sword dropping and petals scattering is all just for dramatic effect. Either that, or everything in the universe is immobile for the time it takes to release his Bankai.

Zommari was too badly injured to move at ALL after he'd been hit. He was dying as the attack dissipated.

Agreed with that zommari is too wounded but when byakuya shunpo behind him why didnt he turn around instead he only turn his head back and no those other eyes cant see.

01-23-2011, 07:07 PM	#1
WindScar22 Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: In the USA. Posts: 2,058 Rep Power: 7	Sasori vs. Zommari The Akatsuki member and puppet master Sasori vs. the dangerous Espada 7 in Aizen's Arrancar army and body-controller Zommari Rureaux. Area: Where Ichigo and Grimmjow fought. Distance: 100 feet Scenario 1: Sasori starts with the 3rd Kazekage and the Mother and Father puppets. He can use Hiruko and his true form if necessary. Speed equalized. Scenario 2: Sasori can only use 25 of his 100 puppets at a time, and can use no other puppets. He can use Hiruko or his true form if necessary. Speed equalized. Sorry. I'm just trying to make this as close to a real fight as possible. __________________ The green that trails Namimori Not large not small, Nami is best Always unchanging Vigorous and gallant.... Let's sing together Namimori middle school! Hibari: This signature is now perfect. If you so much as add one more word, I'll bite you to death. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. Hibari: I'm so going to get you for this. Last edited by WindScar22; 01-23-2011 at 07:15 PM.

01-23-2011, 07:09 PM	#2
SageoftheSixPaths NOTHING FISH?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,696 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari Zommari was fast enough to create afterimage clones of himself. He also was on par with Bankai Bykuya. A.K.A Zommari blitzes the living crap out of Sasori and his puppets. One or two cero/ bala is all it takes to completely destroy Sasori's main body. __________________ Signature currently offline

01-23-2011, 07:12 PM	#3
Miles Edgeworth Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Mystere Posts: 10,448 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari I'm pretty sure Zommari blitzes considering he was keeping up with Byakuya and it took Gokei to take him out.

01-23-2011, 07:13 PM	#4
SageoftheSixPaths NOTHING FISH?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,696 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari Not to mention he could take control over any of the puppets he wanted, Sasori included. He could just make his own little army. __________________ Signature currently offline

01-23-2011, 07:16 PM	#5
Miles Edgeworth Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: St. Mystere Posts: 10,448 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari That too. Zommari only lost against Byakuya cause he was a bad opponent for him. Zommari would have decimated Kenpachi and I wonder if Byakuya could have done as well against Nnoitra as Kenpachi did. Funny how plot-based matches work out.

01-23-2011, 07:20 PM	#6
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari Unrelease zommari-Zommari speedblitz the hell out of sasori. Released-Released zommari is immobilized so he would have to take all of the attacks sasori throws at him.Zommari can only control upto 50 body so noway he could defeat sasori hundreds puppets.He could capture 50 puppets while the rest of them shred him.

01-23-2011, 07:26 PM	#8
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari In the anime he sonido for a short distance while released but in the manga he never move even when byakuya came in for the kill.Manga is for canon than anime.

01-23-2011, 07:28 PM	#9
SageoftheSixPaths NOTHING FISH?! Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Where you live Posts: 10,696 Rep Power: 12	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari I know that. I'm saying he could still move. He just never did. There's no proof at all that he was completely immobile while released. He could move his limbs, he could speak, he could hide inside his shell thing, etc. That's plenty of movement to prove that he retains full mobility. __________________ Signature currently offline

01-23-2011, 07:31 PM	#10
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari He could move is arms,head etc because he got those limb but doesnt have any leg to move.

01-23-2011, 07:37 PM	#12
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari Actuall i got this info off the bleach wiki.If he is retain his locomotion than why doesnt he open a garganta and escape. Last edited by deathraiser; 01-23-2011 at 07:40 PM.

01-23-2011, 07:49 PM	#14
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari When byukuya finish the petal blade dome attacks,the field is clear.If zommari could really move why couldnt he use sonido to decrease the distance between him and byakuya and then open a gargantas.

01-23-2011, 08:00 PM	#16
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari If prerelease zommari speed can match byukuya then released zommari speed would surpass him by powerscaling.It take time for byakuya to activate his bankai again after he deactivate it.Zommari could just sonido away while byakuya bankai is forming.The only reason i could think of why he didnt is because he cant move at all.

01-23-2011, 08:07 PM	#18
deathraiser Genin Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: the plane of nothingness Posts: 274 Rep Power: 0	Re: Sasori vs. Zommari Byakuya bankai take quite some time to activate.He need to declare "Bankai" then drop his sword on the ground.Then rows of sword would emerge from the ground and scatter into petals.After byakuya attack zommari with gokai his zanpakuto is already deactivate so he slash him instead of using his petal.

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