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Old 01-15-2011, 06:45 AM   #1
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Pretty awesome Sticky. I am still pissed the armies across the land did not come to the gates of Gondor. What kind of kingdom does have vassals?

Also, I found a small mistake. xD
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Pretty awesome Sticky. I am still pissed the armies across the land did not come to the gates of Gondor. What kind of kingdom does have vassals?

Also, I found a small mistake. xD
A mistake? Well I'm not perfect...just the next best thing.
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Wait, how?

Didn't follow instructions or something?
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Wait, how?

Didn't follow instructions or something?
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But it's Faramir, who cares? The books are vastly superior; I want my assembling army back. D:
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But it's Faramir, who cares? The books are vastly superior; I want my assembling army back. D:
Apparently she did.

Meh, I like both about the same.
At least the movies didn't have Tom Bombadil. He was annoying.

Most of what I found disappointing in the movies was that the Hobbits
did not have their own little mini war and be like mini warriors.
Instead Frodo and Friends are just as lame and as vertical challenged as ever.

If I was Peter Jackson I would have Faramir kill Frodo and claim
the ring and use it's power to lead Gondor to victory.
But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
we have to resort to hope and trust and all that crap. Ugh.

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Apparently she did.

Meh, I like both about the same.
At least the movies didn't have Tom Bombadil. He was annoying.

Most of what I found disappointing in the movies was that the Hobbits
did not have their own little mini war and be like mini warriors.
Instead Frodo and Friends are just as lame and as vertical challenged as ever.

If I was Peter Jackson I would have Faramir kill Frodo and claim
the ring and use it's power to lead Gondor to victory.
But nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
we have to resort to hope and trust and all that crap. Ugh.

By the way...

STUPID DEUS EX MACHINA BIRDS WHERE WERE YOU 3000 CHAPTERS AGO!?
I see

Eh, Hobbits suck, but they should have been enslaved by Saruman still.
Yeah Tom is was just fluff no need for him.

Nah, Boromir should have killed Frodo and took the ring. Boromir is better than Faramir remember.
Gondor then smach the Suron because they are too cool to be controlled. THE END.
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I see

Eh, Hobbits suck, but they should have been enslaved by Saruman still.
Yeah Tom is was just fluff no need for him.

Nah, Boromir should have killed Frodo and took the ring. Boromir is better than Faramir remember.
Gondor then smach the Suron because they are too cool to be controlled. THE END.

I liked the ending with Wormtongue betraying Saruman.
But I think he should have then gone on a hobbit eating frenzy.



How about a Boromir/Faramir Duo? Everyone loves Duos. EVERYONE!!

Exactly. Gondor wins because sooner or later...

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I liked the ending with Wormtongue betraying Saruman.
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How about a Boromir/Faramir Duo? Everyone loves Duos. EVERYONE!!

Exactly. Gondor wins because sooner or later...

THE STUPID DEUS EX MACHINA BIRDS WILL SAVE THE DAY ANYHOW!
I wish Saruman was cooler at the end. How the mighty have fallen. ;~;

Of course, but what about trios! Trio trio trio!

Hey don't blame the birds; they got lost in the Hobbit. They took a wronf turn at Albuquerque, I think. It took them a while to find Frodo and help him out. Otherwise the would have flew him straight there...if he had enough bird seed.
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I wish Saruman was cooler at the end. How the mighty have fallen. ;~;

Of course, but what about trios! Trio trio trio!

Hey don't blame the birds; they got lost in the Hobbit. They took a wronf turn at Albuquerque, I think. It took them a while to find Frodo and help him out. Otherwise the would have flew him straight there...if he had enough bird seed.
Saruman Theory in link below (not by me.)

http://flyingmoose.org/tolksarc/theories/gandolt.htm


Trios are good too. I suppose Aragorn would be number 3.
It can't be Denethor (at least not permanently) cause he has to go mad.

Hmm in that case...STUPID HOBBITS RUIN EVERYTHING!
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http://www.cas.unt.edu/~hargrove/bombadil.html

I'll say this though, I agree about Faramir of the Motion Pictures being a more satisfying portrayal of the character. I don't get the feeling that characters were Tolkien's focus in most of his works, just random individuals (mostly) tasked with forwarding the plot in whatever manner gets him to meet his word count. A bit harsh I suppose, but most summarized (lazy) critiques are. Mine being lazy, not yours, of course.
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Trios are good too. I suppose Aragorn would be number 3.
It can't be Denethor (at least not permanently) cause he has to go mad.

Hmm in that case...STUPID HOBBITS RUIN EVERYTHING!
That is still:
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Why not Saruman himself?

They do. Just whitewashed gnomes is what they are.
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I'll say this though, I agree about Faramir of the Motion Pictures being a more satisfying portrayal of the character. I don't get the feeling that characters were Tolkien's focus in most of his works, just random individuals (mostly) tasked with forwarding the plot in whatever manner gets him to meet his word count. A bit harsh I suppose, but most summarized (lazy) critiques are. Mine being lazy, not yours, of course.
That's way too much info on a character I despise.

If Faramir acted like he did in the books with Frodo acting differently
it would have made him look a gullible fool. Also I saw him as being
Boromir 2: Boromir's Redemption (which is probably why he's not
clean shaven with black hair---to match Boromir's appearance.)

I think this one article stated it best. Tolkien is more concerned
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That is still:
Roberto approved!

Why not Saruman himself?

They do. Just whitewashed gnomes is what they are.
Of course it is.

Nah, Saruman is like Charlie and they're his angels...'cept dudes.

For sure.
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That's way too much info on a character I despise.

If Faramir acted like he did in the books with Frodo acting differently
it would have made him look a gullible fool. Also I saw him as being
Boromir 2: Boromir's Redemption (which is probably why he's not
clean shaven with black hair---to match Boromir's appearance.)

I think this one article stated it best. Tolkien is more concerned
with creating his Middle Earth world then telling a story.



Of course it is.

Nah, Saruman is like Charlie and they're his angels...'cept dudes.

For sure.
I think Johan would have made a great Boromir.
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I think Johan would have made a great Boromir.

I wonder if the ring would do much of anything to Johan or if he be like...

This is a bit gaudy. BANG BANG BANG BANG Hobbits are dead.
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That's way too much info on a character I despise.

If Faramir acted like he did in the books with Frodo acting differently
it would have made him look a gullible fool. Also I saw him as being
Boromir 2: Boromir's Redemption (which is probably why he's not
clean shaven with black hair---to match Boromir's appearance.)

I think this one article stated it best. Tolkien is more concerned
with creating his Middle Earth world then telling a story.



Of course it is.

Nah, Saruman is like Charlie and they're his angels...'cept dudes.

For sure.

Agreed, but it could be worse. Wuthering Heights worse. Or anything Emily Bronte-ish. That's my Hallmark of Failure for written works. You can't even laugh at it.
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Agreed, but it could be worse. Wuthering Heights worse. Or anything Emily Bronte-ish. That's my Hallmark of Failure for written works. You can't even laugh at it.

Thankfully I have had the pleasure of not reading those.
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