Gaara vs. Sasuke

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Support this claim. Sasuke has not shown the same speed as Lee when he frought Naruto at Final Valley.

Sasuke would notice that. And so he wouldn't even be able to get close to Gaara with quicksand all over the place.

It's enough to help Sasuke dodge though. It won't protect him from sand.

He doesn't need to. Then he doesn't need to live.

Susanoo just tanks it. And Sasuke drowns in sand.

Then he preps it, and Gaara is screwed. Sand Sphere says hello.

Not right away. it would make him bleed but it won't stop him from using MS. Therefore his eye would be bleeding too.

precisely Then no jutsu for Sasuke

Now you know it isn't.

Sasuke could just pull it out. And be vulnerable to sand coffin.

With what exactly? Not being able to spam it? Sasuke fought against the Kages, which took a considerable amount of chakra, and then he fought against Danzo and his old Team 7 after being healed, which once again costs a lot of chakra. He won't be healed in this fight.

Not that I remember :/ Gaara's unable to avoid multiple Chidori Spears, if he tries to block it he's screwed. I said he flies around in the air to avoid vulnerability from Sharp Spear.

Sasuke Hawk Summon Sheesh, if the hawk summon could avoid Gaara's attacks that easily then so could Deidara (which he didn't) Gaara crushes Sasuke's arm, the end.

Don't forget Chidori Spear which is actually meant for piercing. Not meant for continuously moving targets like Gaara.

A tree with Hashirama's cells must be pretty damn strong and the arrow still got through it, it only changed the direction. Now Gaara could probably block it with his sand but that would require a thick sand shield and good enough reaction speed. Which he has.

I think it's connected to his optic nerve which is why he can see through it. That's a no go. He would look at Sasuke's feet to know what he's doing instead of looking into Sasuke's eyes to get trapped in Tsukuyomi.

Gaara reacting to Amaterasu in short or medium range is a different story. Which will not be happening.

They're at their most recent abilities./

Movie is filler, doesn't count.

As Kakashi would say, Sasuke is a close range fighter. Gaara excels at long range. This makes Gaara his worst matchup. Fireballs are easily blocked, and Great Dragon Flames are only used for prep for Kirin, which I have already countered.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Sasuke takes this with mid difficulty. Genjutsu is the deciding factor. I am pretty sure that Gaara can defend against Sasuke speed now.

[Tensu]

Sasuke's Hawk Summon - Oh yes sorry I must have forgotten its IMPOSSIBLE to kill a summon, its completely immune forever always so yep uh huh hawk must be the ultimate trump card.

Hashirama's tree cells - I can't imagine these are any denser/more durable than gaara's sand I say this because notice how quickly danzou could just release his arm in reaction to the susano arrow, Gaara has displayed this same amount of speed when fighting both kimimaro and more recently, deidra. Gaara has never had a problem creating dense sand to defend himself.

Susano - When Itachi and Sasuke fight, you'll notice when Orochimaru's snake burst forth, they wrap around Itachi's susano temporarily immobilizing it, the susano breaking out but cutting off the rest of the heads of the snake. Gaara could pull of a feat like this no problem, although Susano is a great defensive card, if used offensively its already been displayed in the manga that Susano can be encumbered. A wrapping of sand to hold susano down would be within Gaara's realm of possibility.

Gaara's Sand eye - Yes its connected to his optic nerve but because its a jutsu and is different than a normal eye you can't just say "Oh it will work"... His sand eye is a legitimate argument and defense against tsukyomi... In the same way Deidra's one eye can defend against Genjutsu (although trained to do it) there are ways as he has displayed to maneuver around a sharingans Genjutsu and that would be a possibility. I won't say it WILL work but it has as much of a chance of working as it does failing. So Don't just throw it out the window because you're panties are in a bunch that I found a loop hole around it.


Amaterasu – Gaara has already displayed the ability to counter amaterasu in short range, or did you not see him maneuver his sand so fast as to put a barrier between the raikage and sasuke within a split second in short range. It’s okay though, I forgive you for looking over something like that. Gaara has already displayed the aptitude to react in under the blink of an eye (literally) to counter amaterasu.
Sasuke’s new eyes – Uh.. well I can’t count the blindness factor during the fight then, but since technically sasuke hasn’t unwrapped his new eyes yet so as far as I’m concerned his current skills would still be his half-blind self with his mangekyou.
Movie is filler but people were quoting that electricity defaults sand which was only proven in that one video, otherwise the only electrical move ever used against Gaara is chidori which isn’t enough probable cause to say Electricity > Sand because of the nature of chidori’s low surface area, high piercing damage nature.
Sand Traps – If Kimimaro, the best displayed taijutsu user in the manga arguably has been caught in sand I can’t imagine that sasuke wouldn’t get caught at least once… Yes sasuke is extremely observant and I’m not saying he’s one to simply not notice sand creeping up on him. Sharingan extremely help his observation skills too, but against deidra he still got caught by a bomb here and there, against killerbee he got stabbed badly, against itachi he got well… wrecked, even against danzou he sustained damage, It’s not out of the question to say Gaara would never be able to get any sand on/around sasuke to do damage and it only takes the catch of a leg for gaara to CRUSH leaving sasuke therefore extremely handicapped for the rest of that fight. I’m not insinuating it would be instantaneous or that gaara would trounce Sasuke, but I mean come on Sasuke isn’t a God, he doesn’t just evade or maneuver through EVERY FIGHT without getting caught here and there… These are hard facts, not a hard on for sasuke like you kids seem to have.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Tensu

Sasuke's Hawk Summon - Oh yes sorry I must have forgotten its IMPOSSIBLE to kill a summon, its completely immune forever always so yep uh huh hawk must be the ultimate trump card.

Its not really impossible, killing a summon is like killing a shadow clone. They disappear in a puff of smoke.

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Tensu

Sasuke's Hawk Summon - Oh yes sorry I must have forgotten its IMPOSSIBLE to kill a summon, its completely immune forever always so yep uh huh hawk must be the ultimate trump card.

Summons are living beings as well.

Ma summoned Pa who died in the Pain arc.
3 Gama's were majorly crippled by Shinra Tensei.
Or the best example is Manda.

Don't even try to find the logic as to why some just puff away while others don't.

Fact is they are living beings as well and capable of dying.
So yes it's completely possible to kill them.

[~KARIN~]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Summons are living beings as well.

Ma summoned Pa who died in the Pain arc.
3 Gama's were majorly crippled by Shinra Tensei.
Or the best example is Manda.

Don't even try to find the logic as to why some just puff away while others don't.

Fact is they are living beings as well and capable of dying.
So yes it's completely possible to kill them.

i think tensu was being sarcastic...

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

As Kakashi would say, Sasuke is a close range fighter. Gaara excels at long range. This makes Gaara his worst matchup. Fireballs are easily blocked, and Great Dragon Flames are only used for prep for Kirin, which I have already countered.

You're actually suggesting Gaara would win They're not fighting in a desert dear.

Great Dragon Flames don't have to be used for simple prep. If Gaaras in the air they can be used to completely roast him. If Gaara wants to put up a Sand Sphere of defence around him then he can do so. But thats just giving Sasuke time to prep for Kirin. In which Gaara is not blocking. Gaara is not at all Sasukes worst match up, because he can eeeeeeasily keep up with his sand attacks. He's kept up with A and Killer Bee to an extent, so keeping up with Gaara will be easy biscuits.

Sasuke has not shown the same speed as Lee when he frought Naruto at Final Valley.

And Lee has not shown the same speed as Sasuke when he kept up with A, Itachi and Killer Bee. Sasuke is far faster than Weightless Lee.

And so he wouldn't even be able to get close to Gaara with quicksand all over the place.

He wouldn't need to. Kirin. Susano'o. Amaterasu. Tsukyomi. GG Gaara. And all from a range.

It won't protect him from sand.

I suggest you re-read the manga. Sasuke is much faster than Gaaras sand. Part I Gaara is in capable of keeping up with Sasukes speed. His Sand hasn't gotten particulary faster in Part II. So how in the world it would be capable of keeping up with speedster Sasuke who can keep up with people as fast as A the Raikage I have no idea.

Then he doesn't need to live.

.... wut?

And Sasuke drowns in sand.

Susano'o forms an ultimate sheild. Ain't a grain of sand seeping through it. Think again.

Sand Sphere says hello.

And Sand Sphere says goodbye again as its totally raped by Kirin.

Therefore his eye would be bleeding too.

How does losing ones arm make your eye bleed? If you're referring to using MS, then yes. It might bleed after consecutive uses. But that doesn't stop Sasuke from using it.

And be vulnerable to sand coffin.

Gaara can not put up a Sand Sphere and use Sand Burial at the same time. Iiirc. Of course, Sasukes Chidori Spear was capable of piercing through A's raiton armour. As was Amaterasu. It could pierce through his Sand Sphere. His Chidori pierced through Sand Sphere before too, it can do it again. And Part I Sasuke who had less strength was able to pull his arm out quick enough. Part II Sasuke will do the same.

He won't be healed in this fight.

Too bad Karins Healing jutsu doesn't replenish chakra. Only restores damage. In other words, Sasuke doesn't need healing.

I said he flies around in the air to avoid vulnerability from Sharp Spear.

Why would Sasuke use an attack that only travels in a straight line while his opponent flies about like theres no tomorrow? If Gaara wants to fly about, Great Fireball spam. Amaterasu. Tsukyomi. Susano'o. Any of the mentioned will either kill him or prevent him moving around much.

Sheesh, if the hawk summon could avoid Gaara's attacks that easily then so could Deidara (which he didn't) Gaara crushes Sasuke's arm, the end.

Hawk Summon won't be avoiding attacks as it hasn't shown much speed. But Sasuke would only EVER use the Hawk if he needed to get to a height. And he's facing Gaara. Whose only attacks are sand blasts to which are slower and easily dodged by Sasuke. Why would he need the Hawk in the first place?

Not meant for continuously moving targets like Gaara.

He wouldn't use it on Gaara while he's moving. He'd use it while he's immobile inside his Sand Sphere.

Which he has.

Gaaras sand cannot block a chidori. So blocking a Susano'o arrow is completely out of the question. If it managed to react to the Susano'o arrow, it would be doing so with great difficulty.

He would look at Sasuke's feet to know what he's doing instead of looking into Sasuke's eyes to get trapped in Tsukuyomi.

Except he'd need knowledge on Sasuke jutsu for him to do that. And he doesn't have that. So thats a no go I'm afraid.

[iDooom]

If Gaara looks at his feet... Chidori enhanced shurikens kill him.
If he doesn't, he gets hit with Tsukuyomi.
Sand Eye + Sand Sphere could be countered with Great Dragon Fire and Chidori Sharp Spear.
What!?
Gaara doesn't fly, he hovers. Gaara is a stationary fighter. He doesn't move a lot.
Besides, Sand Burial would do nothing against Susanoo, unless you're suggesting that it is more powerful than sand bullets, Temari's wind jutsu, Kankuro's puppets, and Darui's storm release at the same time. That was just an incomplete Susanoo, and it didn't suffer any damage at all.

[Tensu]

Wow clearly sarcasm is a dead language here... Yes I was was joking about the hawk summon of course its kill-able....

iDooom I realize you must not pay attention to how chidori works so let me break it down to you, Sasuke's Chidori-anything has a certain range to it, duely noted by Deidra during their little fight and again with Itachi. I don't remember what his exact length on it was but lets say he can extend his Chidori spear 200 meters in the air, If Gaara hovers at 250 meters, or 300 meters, then even if he throws these apparently unblockable/insta skill "Chidori shurikens" you've been pradeling about once it hits the 200meter mark the chidori effect would disengage, he has to flow electricity through it (As seen when he fought Itachi) its not like Naruto Fuma rasen-shuriken that is completely throwable.

Since no one seems to be commenting on my larger post I'm assuming you just don't know what to say or this is you can't make an argument in your little "Debating for Dummies" book you're clearly using. But again, Susano acts as a person would and as such can be encumbered, and held down by sand rendering it immobile... This means that although Sasuke wouldn't be crushed under sand burial, he can certainly still be burried along with susano underground until he suffocates. Susano acts like a shield, which is all fine and good and Gaara wouldn't be able to crush sasuke but he could simply sink susano and sasuke underground like he did Kimimaro and press the sand down on top of them leaving them unable to move or do anything but run out of air.

These fights arn't just all about brute strength, there is strategy involved and although Gaara is a stationary fighter, by hovering high up in the air he can still clearly fight like a champ.

Since someone honestly brought up fireball jutsu... How weak do you honestly think Gaaras sand is? Any fireball jutsu would simply be blocked by his sand leaving no damage at all... How can I prove this? He blocked Amaterasu, the mangas strongest fire oriented jutsu thus far. If that's the case ya im pretty sure he could shrug off any other type of fire, which is why sasuke never tries to just throw fireballs at him in their fight. Amaterasu's only step above other fire jutsus that would give it any sort of edge would be that it can burn forever, but if you refer to my earlier post you'll note that gaara can use that eternally burning sand do his advantage as a weapon.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by Tensu

Wow clearly sarcasm is a dead language here... Yes I was was joking about the hawk summon of course its kill-able....

iDooom I realize you must not pay attention to how chidori works so let me break it down to you, Sasuke's Chidori-anything has a certain range to it, duely noted by Deidra during their little fight and again with Itachi. I don't remember what his exact length on it was but lets say he can extend his Chidori spear 200 meters in the air, If Gaara hovers at 250 meters, or 300 meters, then even if he throws these apparently unblockable/insta skill "Chidori shurikens" you've been pradeling about once it hits the 200meter mark the chidori effect would disengage, he has to flow electricity through it (As seen when he fought Itachi) its not like Naruto Fuma rasen-shuriken that is completely throwable.

Since no one seems to be commenting on my larger post I'm assuming you just don't know what to say or this is you can't make an argument in your little "Debating for Dummies" book you're clearly using. But again, Susano acts as a person would and as such can be encumbered, and held down by sand rendering it immobile... This means that although Sasuke wouldn't be crushed under sand burial, he can certainly still be burried along with susano underground until he suffocates. Susano acts like a shield, which is all fine and good and Gaara wouldn't be able to crush sasuke but he could simply sink susano and sasuke underground like he did Kimimaro and press the sand down on top of them leaving them unable to move or do anything but run out of air.

These fights arn't just all about brute strength, there is strategy involved and although Gaara is a stationary fighter, by hovering high up in the air he can still clearly fight like a champ.

Since someone honestly brought up fireball jutsu... How weak do you honestly think Gaaras sand is? Any fireball jutsu would simply be blocked by his sand leaving no damage at all... How can I prove this? He blocked Amaterasu, the mangas strongest fire oriented jutsu thus far. If that's the case ya im pretty sure he could shrug off any other type of fire, which is why sasuke never tries to just throw fireballs at him in their fight. Amaterasu's only step above other fire jutsus that would give it any sort of edge would be that it can burn forever, but if you refer to my earlier post you'll note that gaara can use that eternally burning sand do his advantage as a weapon.

Ignoring everything you've just said - Sasuke wouldn't need Chidori Spear.

Aha. No. Anyone saying Gaara>Sasuke needs to reread the manga. Unless Gaara somehow manages to produce enough sand to weigh Susano'o down, that won't be happening. Gaara needs to be fighting in an area where theres lots of Sand or earth to be able to produce any big masses. They're fighting in a Hyperbolic Time Chamber, so I'm afraid he's limited to what he has in his gourd. And what he has in his gourd is most certainly not weighing down Susano'o.

Hovering high in the air won't do crap whenever Sasuke can just follow him on his Hawk. Assuming Sasuke was close enough, his bird might get shot down with sand. But if Sasuke was close to Gaara at all, he can simply shunshin at him and blitz him, Gaaras sand isn't on par with Sasukes speed and so couldn't defend him. Furthermore, on the odd chance Gaara did somehow get high in the air so that Sasuke couldn't reach him. Not only will his sand be unable to reach Sasuke, but they'll also be unable to hit him non stop, because will have loooads of time to react to it. He'll be wasting his chakra.

Strategy? And what strategy will Gaara pull off against Sasuke? Who is equally as, if not more intelligent than Gaara.

Great. Gaaras sand has withstood an Amaterasu for a short while, so has Karin. So really, I wouldn't call that a massive achievement. One of Raikages strikes blew away huge amounts of sand from Gaaras sheild which guarded Sasuke. Sasukes chidori is capable of piercing through metal and resisting the power of rasengan. One or two of them will cut through Gaaras sheild easily. More to the point, Gaara is limited on the sand he can use. None of Sasukes attacks are weak. He either has to draw all his sand together to form a sheild, or he focuses all his sand together for an attack. Doing both at the same time will make him unable to withstand Susano'o arrows, Chidori, Kirin [not that he'd be able to stop it anyway], Raiton sword attacks etc.

They start off at 50 metres. Sasuke covers that with a few shunshins, and by the time Gaaras sand goes to defend him, he's already been stabbed by a Chidori. Gaara is not winning this.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Lady Tsunade

You're actually suggesting Gaara would win They're not fighting in a desert dear. Why would he need to be in a desert? If you're referring to Gaara's supply of sand he could just get more from the ground, as he did in the kimimaru fight.

Great Dragon Flames don't have to be used for simple prep. If Gaaras in the air they can be used to completely roast him. Sand to the rescue. If Gaara wants to put up a Sand Sphere of defence around him then he can do so. But thats just giving Sasuke time to prep for Kirin. He would only use sand sphere if kirin is already prepped. If Sasuke wastes his Dragon Flames, then no Kirin for him. Though Gaara obviously wouldn't let him do that prep. In which Gaara is not blocking. You SERIOUSLY underestimate his sand. It got harder, better, faster, and stronger in the timeskip. It blocked C3 for god's sake... Gaara is not at all Sasukes worst match up, because he can eeeeeeasily keep up with his sand attacks. Attacking Gaara would be his main problem. He's kept up with A and Killer Bee to an extent, so keeping up with Gaara will be easy biscuits. Except they don't have the same advantages as Gaara.

In red.
Lee with at least 5 gates>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke in speed.
Gaara blocks Kirin with sand.
Susanoo either gets tanked with sand, or gets stuck in quicksand. Either way, Sasuke drowns in sand.
Amaterasu gets blocked with sand.
Tsukyomi, simple. Just don't look into Sasuke's eyes, and use the sand eye to see what he's doing. Problem solved. And there is not one shinobi who does not know about genjutsu. And if Sasuke uses Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, or Amaterasu, he will suffer the bad effects of the MS and eventually go blind and lose the battle.
This isn't part 1. If you really think his sand hasn't gotten faster in part 2 then you need to watch the Gaara vs Deidara fight again because his sand is even faster then Deidara and Sasuke needed the Curse Mark to be as fast as Deidara which he doesn't have anymore so Sasuke is SLOWER. Oh and he hasn't shown any speed feats after he lost the curse mark.
''...wut?'' if Sasuke doesn't need to use Chidori Nagashi then he wouldn't be getting out of Gaara's sand and so he won't live.
Already countered Susanoo
It will make him go blind and lose.
As I said, Gaara will only use sand sphere for (maybe) kirin. Either that or he blocks it the same way he blocked C3. Chidori Spear won't be making contact with Gaara or his sand as he will avoid it instead of blocking it. Gaara's sand got stronger in part 2.
He would need healing if he uses MS or wants to use Chidori Nagashi.
Exactly, so Sasuke wouldn't have a chance to pull off Chidori Sharp Spear on Gaara. Gaara's sand blocks Great Fireballs, buh-bye.
Already countered Amaterasu Tsukyomi and Susanoo
Then he won't be using the Hawk Summon. Gaara's sand will eventually get Sasuke and it will all be over.
Already countered Sharp Spear
Sasuke can't use Chidori on Gaara if he can't get close to him. Gaara has knowledge of the arrow, so he simply avoids it.
He DOES have knowledge of genjutsu, as do all shinobi. And that's not his only option: he could just use the sand eye to look overhead and see what Sasuke is doing. Sasuke won't even notice the eye.

[megabbaut]

Originally Posted by Laxeres

Sand from Ground : Yes that is true, however Gaara had to start talking and create already sand to use it, as well as this Kimi was standing still. Saskue would be in his face. Sasuke would stand still too. Anime logic (lol)

Sand to the Rescue: Huh? Support please. Sand will block the Great Dragon Flames. It blocked Amaterasu, the best fire ninjutsu.

Sand Sphere: A lot of sand has to be used for that to happen, if you are refering to the same one as the one with Deideia. He won't be using Sand Sphere in this fight.

Sand Strength: Lighting vs Earth here. His sand blocked C3 and A's kick

Attacking: Yes this true, ONLY If he is up in the air. And if he can't get close to him, in which fireballs would be his only option.

Garra Advan: What? Explain. Look at my previous posts

In red

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Tensu

Wow clearly sarcasm is a dead language here... Yes I was was joking about the hawk summon of course its kill-able....

More common sense cause it's so easy to recognize Sarcasm over the Net?

[megabbaut]

Sasuke doesn't have the curse mark anymore and he never had the curse mark and MS at the same time.
If that's true it wouldn't have blocked C3 which is much stronger than Kirin
See the Kimimaru fight
Or in Gaara's case, his sand. Also he blocked it before.
He wouldn't need the sand dome he would just need the eye.
It caught up to Deidara, Sasuke did because he had the curse mark, now he doesn't and now he has a decrease in speed.
He can't spam Chidori Nagashi forever.
Gaara only needed the Shukaku for his jinchuriki forms and for his auto sand barrier (which isn't a problem thanks to his quick reaction feats)
It blocked Sasuke's amaterasu which is his strongest fire jutsu so he can block any of his fire jutsu with ease.
As I said before, Gaara won't be using Sand dome in this fight.

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

As Kakashi would say, Sasuke is a close range fighter. Gaara excels at long range. This makes Gaara his worst matchup. Fireballs are easily blocked, and Great Dragon Flames are only used for prep for Kirin, which I have already countered.

Tsunade already countered this so I'll just let you two... or three go on with the debate.

@tensu - I'll debate with you as soon as you stop acting rude and putting words in my mouth. kthxbye

[megabbaut]

^Oh hey you're back.

[Tensu]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Tsunade already countered this so I'll just let you two... or three go on with the debate.

@tensu - I'll debate with you as soon as you stop acting rude and putting words in my mouth. kthxbye

Well I apologize then for being rude, I'd enjoy a rebuttal different then the last couple "SASUKES JUTSUS ARE UNSTOPPABLE!!!!" posts the last few have made.

[Lady Tsunade]

Originally Posted by megabbaut

In red.
Lee with at least 5 gates>>>>>>>>>>Sasuke in speed.
Gaara blocks Kirin with sand.
Susanoo either gets tanked with sand, or gets stuck in quicksand. Either way, Sasuke drowns in sand.
Amaterasu gets blocked with sand.
Tsukyomi, simple. Just don't look into Sasuke's eyes, and use the sand eye to see what he's doing. Problem solved. And there is not one shinobi who does not know about genjutsu. And if Sasuke uses Susanoo, Tsukuyomi, or Amaterasu, he will suffer the bad effects of the MS and eventually go blind and lose the battle.
This isn't part 1. If you really think his sand hasn't gotten faster in part 2 then you need to watch the Gaara vs Deidara fight again because his sand is even faster then Deidara and Sasuke needed the Curse Mark to be as fast as Deidara which he doesn't have anymore so Sasuke is SLOWER. Oh and he hasn't shown any speed feats after he lost the curse mark.
''...wut?'' if Sasuke doesn't need to use Chidori Nagashi then he wouldn't be getting out of Gaara's sand and so he won't live.
Already countered Susanoo
It will make him go blind and lose.
As I said, Gaara will only use sand sphere for (maybe) kirin. Either that or he blocks it the same way he blocked C3. Chidori Spear won't be making contact with Gaara or his sand as he will avoid it instead of blocking it. Gaara's sand got stronger in part 2.
He would need healing if he uses MS or wants to use Chidori Nagashi.
Exactly, so Sasuke wouldn't have a chance to pull off Chidori Sharp Spear on Gaara. Gaara's sand blocks Great Fireballs, buh-bye.
Already countered Amaterasu Tsukyomi and Susanoo
Then he won't be using the Hawk Summon. Gaara's sand will eventually get Sasuke and it will all be over.
Already countered Sharp Spear
Sasuke can't use Chidori on Gaara if he can't get close to him. Gaara has knowledge of the arrow, so he simply avoids it.
He DOES have knowledge of genjutsu, as do all shinobi. And that's not his only option: he could just use the sand eye to look overhead and see what Sasuke is doing. Sasuke won't even notice the eye.

They're fighting in a Hyperbolic Time Chamber. He isn't extracting any sand from the earth. Because there is none.

He would only use Sand Sphere is Kirin was already prepped? I find that unlikely. Sasuke would not be wasting his flames. He's smart. Gaara obviously couldn't stop him prepping. As his sand is in no way fast enough, or in enough quantity to catch Sasuke. And no, you seriously overestimate Gaaras sand. Gaaras sand was able to block a C3, when he gathered enough to cover the entire Sand Village. All he's got here is whats in his gourd. And that won't be stopping a Chidori, Chidori Spear, or Kirin. How would attacking Gaara be his main problem? Sasuke can cover the 50 metre starting distance quickly, and barrage Gaara with speedy attacks in which Gaaras sand cannot block. He just blitzes Gaara once he gets past his sheild. If Gaara started high in the air and had a large source of sand to use, Sasuke would have much more difficulty, but the fact is - he doesn't. A, Itachi etc are much much faster than Gaaras sand. Sasuke can keep up with them. So he can easily outmanuever Gaaras sand, that was the point I was raising.

Proof Lee is a gazillion times faster than Sasuke in fifth gate. Gaara most certainly does not block Kirin would his petty gourd of sand. Kirin levelled out a massive area. So no, you're logic is heavily flawed there. Susano'o arrows are able to cut through Trees created by Danzos Mokuton as if they were butter. The trees were large, thick - and as with pretty much everything in the Narutoverse, sturdier than average. Furthermore, Kakashi was unable to dodge them through movement. Only Instant-Kamui could stop them. Kakashi is faster than Gaaras sand, so obviously it wouldn't be reacting to an arrow.

Ugh. How many times. Gaara might well have knowledge on genjutsu, thats nice and everything, and good for him - but he doesn't have knowledge on Tsukyomi, which involves looking into the opponents eyes. If your going to say Gaara is not once going to look into Sasukes eyes throughout the entire match, then debating this further would be a waste. And I'm sure his sand has gotten somewhat faster in part 2, since it was able to react to a punch from Raikage, though the punch wasn't that fast compared to usual. However, its still not on level with Sasukes speed or his Susano'o arrows. No, your ABC logic is flawed here, You're saying that, because Gaaras sand>Deidara. That Sasuke going Curse Mark to keep up with Deidaras attacks means that Deidara>Sasuke? No. Obviously not. Deidara is not particulary fast, not on Sasukes level at least, not even nearly. Sasuke kept up with Raikage after he lost the Curse Mark, he kept up with Danzo, dodged attacks from Mei Terumi the Mizukage, kept up with Kakashi - how can you possibly say he didn't show any speed feats?

Really, everything else you stated here is just repition .__. So I don't feel that I should counter much more of it - I'll say this though: Gaaras sand hasn't gotten much more durable since Part I. Nor has it gotten to the level where it could possibly keep up with Sasuke. Unless you provide chapter references? Finally, Sasuke won't be needing Sharp Spear, because Sand won't be touching him. He might use it for the lulz if Gaara got at a range and made his Sand Sphere, but even then. He doesn't necessarily need it to inflict damage.

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Tsunade already countered this so I'll just let you two... or three go on with the debate.

@tensu - I'll debate with you as soon as you stop acting rude and putting words in my mouth. kthxbye

Ugh, you're leaving?

Why did I have to butt in and take over xD

Originally Posted by Tensu

Well I apologize then for being rude, I'd enjoy a rebuttal different then the last couple "SASUKES JUTSUS ARE UNSTOPPABLE!!!!" posts the last few have made.

How about you just counter my previous post instead of whining that Gaara can't win? .__.

[Kuromaki]

Fine, i can help >.> Just so you know this is at the same place where Danzo and Sasuke fought xD

[Yellow Flash]

Why is this still going on? :giogio

What is Gaara's counter to Susano'o? Nothing Gaara has showcased is on a hill busting level, so there is no chance for winning offensively. Oh, what about his Ultimate Defense? Are you talking about the same Ultimate Defense that was pierced by a pre-three tomoe Sharingan Sasuke? Yeah, Gaara loses.