Naruto Tier List - Group Debate

[TheBlackChidori]

Originally Posted by Yori

2nd Mizukage needs to be place high.

Jokey Boy + His Clam = Hell for anyone thats going against him. He could have hidden his real body inside the clam while his clone goes off on destruction against his opponent. He said he made it easy for Gaara & crew to beat him so I guess thats why he slit the to. Perfect Defense & Offense. I can see why Mu couldn't stop it

Except Gaara just stopped it.

[Midnight789]

where is the default Location.. if it is not a sandy place.. then why the heck is Gaara so High.. if u guys believe that he can create a huge landscape of sand surrounding the area before someone comes up close and knocks him out then ur wrong.. i am still saying that Might Guy should take his place on that list.. i dont see him nor his sand reacting to his speed or power.. Lee in 5th gate is a perfect example. i know people are going to say ohh that was long ago.. but that also proves my point.. Lee was only in the five gate and a newly user... Gai on the other Hand is experienced and stronger, FASTER AND JUST A BETTER TAI-JUTSU MASTER THAN LEE.

Gaara creating a area full of sand does not take seconds... Might Guy opening the 6th and 7th gate... seconds..


im not being a fanboy of Might Guy.. i just believe that he should be in the Legendary Tier for list. he over powers people with his power and speed just like A.. but A seems to be Wayy higher than Him.. That does not make sense to me!.

[Yori]

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Except Gaara just stopped it.

Yeah with the help of his father might I add. The gold is what Gaara needed and he just so happen to have the ability to wield it.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Not this crap again...

Danzo had Sasuke beat.Only reason he won was because of a large helpfactors.

Shisui's Eye was off.

Remember how they struck each other?
Danzo still had energy left to get up by himself while Sasuke fell exhausted on the Floor.


Danzo used his Sealing Jutsu.
Guess what?
Madara was the one who saved Sasuke by telling to get away.

Or his other sealing Jutsu which immobilized Sasuke and Danzo nearly beheading him.
Only reason he got out because Susanoo suddenly evolved out of nowhere.

When Sasuke finished him with Chidori Spear Danzo had another Izanagi left but he didn't wanna use it cause it was Shisui's Eye.

So how in the World is Sasuke stronger when even with major help he barely survived?

Sasuke no but Naruto yes needs to be above Danzo. Clones perfect counter measure against shisui's eye. Not to mention Danzo would have to use Izanagi constantly against frs.

[Super Sanin 3]

Midnight where's the Tsunade you promised
I think Guy can become a Legendary Tier because he's shown to be quick in deciding when to use the gates in his latest chapters

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Except Gaara just stopped it.

Gaara had the help of a sensor.......
Battle location................
Fathers Gold Dust.....................
Tsuchikages help......................
And the fact that Mizukage was going easy on them............

[NagatoGod_of_Pain]

Originally Posted by Yori

Yeah with the help of his father might I add. The gold is what Gaara needed and he just so happen to have the ability to wield it.

His sand has shown to block it though.

Gaara might not be able to capture Jokey Boy, but he sure has the defense to protect himself.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Originally Posted by heroeking

Gaara had the help of a sensor.......
Battle location................
Fathers Gold Dust.....................
Tsuchikages help......................
And the fact that Mizukage was going easy on them............

creating the massive and the giant mother shield within less than a second and protecting everybody including himself from the explosion which is dangerous thing that the little mustache's clone can do in addition to the blitzing , hasn't all that helped ? how did the sensor and the Tsuchikage help benefit Gaara then ??? father gold dust was a war booty and the son deserved the prize so tell me where is the problem , we can take it as a new feat just like when the Samehada went for Bee.

TBC , u really should tier up Gaara ( without Shukaku ) to the legendary tier
unless u disagree.

[Super Sanin 3]

IIRC it's a good feat and tactic and Gaara's smart for it but we're doing debates in the Konoha crater so we can't use that
I think Gaara w/o Shukaku's legendary tier too, didn't really help him much anyways

[heroeking]

Originally Posted by THE X UCHIHA

creating the massive and the giant mother shield within less than a second and protecting everybody including himself from the explosion which is dangerous thing that the little mustache's clone can do in addition to the blitzing , hasn't all that helped ? how did the sensor and the Tsuchikage help benefit Gaara then ??? father gold dust was a war booty and the son deserved the prize so tell me where is the problem , we can take it as a new feat just like when the Samehada went for Bee.

TBC , u really should tier up Gaara ( without Shukaku ) to the legendary tier
unless u disagree.

Gaara doesn't defeat Mizukage without help, that's the problem. Gaar couldn't even find Mizukage without a fodder sensor finding him. Gaar has already shown the ability to guard mass numbers of ppl guarding an explosion in the Deudara fight. But he was also surrounded by sand/dust.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Originally Posted by heroeking

Gaara doesn't defeat Mizukage without help, that's the problem. Gaar couldn't even find Mizukage without a fodder sensor finding him. Gaar has already shown the ability to guard mass numbers of ppl guarding an explosion in the Deudara fight. But he was also surrounded by sand/dust.

he has the eye sand thingy so it might help finding out the real one, thou I can't deny what his teammates did but still he can protect himself and the whole division , he can think smartly and with the possession of his old man gold dust he can make it out winner and alive.

[Kuromaki]

Gaara had so much help., First of all the shinobi alliance fought the Mizukage, then he fought the Mizukage with Onoki's help in breaking the clam, while the Mizukage was telling him about his weaknesses the whole time. Then Onoki told him about Steaming Danger Tyranny, and a sensor ninja had to tell Gaara where the Mizukage was (he could've eventually sensed him with his sand although that may have been too late). Then Gaara only managed to protect himself in the end because he had used the Blingkage's leftover gold to his advantage. The Blingkage will not be assisting him here.

[THE X UCHIHA]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Gaara had so much help., First of all the shinobi alliance fought the Mizukage, then he fought the Mizukage with Onoki's help in breaking the clam, while the Mizukage was telling him about his weaknesses the whole time. Then Onoki told him about Steaming Danger Tyranny, and a sensor ninja had to tell Gaara where the Mizukage was (he could've eventually sensed him with his sand although that may have been too late). Then Gaara only managed to protect himself in the end because he had used the Blingkage's leftover gold to his advantage. The Blingkage will not be assisting him here.

he has that sand eye , I think it helped Onoki.

[Yori]

Sand eye isn't going to do anything if he's alone. With Mizu in the clam, and Joki Boy doing a rinse & repeat Gaara is screwed one by one

[Doton]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

im not being a fanboy of Might Guy.. i just believe that he should be in the Legendary Tier for list. he over powers people with his power and speed just like A.. but A seems to be Wayy higher than Him.. That does not make sense to me!.

I don't think Might Guy should go higher, A uses lightning ninjutsu to augment his reflexes, Might Guy doesn't specialize and relies on taijutsu instead of ninjutsu, and cannot really be compared to the kage with that ability. I don't see how Might Guy is even above people like Deidara, which doesn't seem to be logical in my opinion. I believe Might Guy is high enough as it is, and he only has this power and speed while using gates, and even in gates hes not as unstoppable as people think.

[Super Sanin 3]

Well if he goes gates directly he can possibly kill people like Gaara, seeing as how he divided part of the ocean from pure chakra alone

[MinatoXNaruto]

Originally Posted by Vivi

Not this crap again...

Danzo had Sasuke beat.Only reason he won was because of a large helpfactors.

Shisui's Eye was off.

Remember how they struck each other?
Danzo still had energy left to get up by himself while Sasuke fell exhausted on the Floor.


Danzo used his Sealing Jutsu.
Guess what?
Madara was the one who saved Sasuke by telling to get away.

Or his other sealing Jutsu which immobilized Sasuke and Danzo nearly beheading him.
Only reason he got out because Susanoo suddenly evolved out of nowhere.

When Sasuke finished him with Chidori Spear Danzo had another Izanagi left but he didn't wanna use it cause it was Shisui's Eye.

So how in the World is Sasuke stronger when even with major help he barely survived?

Okkay? That's like me saying danzo only won because of his sharingan. Danzo would have been killed very early in the battle if not for his sharingan. He has no battle strategy what so ever. All he can do is steal sharingan. Even if sasuke had madara's help, danzo was very dissapointing in that fight. Now Sasuke has freaking eternal mangekyou sharingan. Danzo wouldn't stand a chance now. Either way, Itachi still beats them both.

[Super Sanin 3]

I don't believe Itachi would be able to overcome EMS Sasuke

[MinatoXNaruto]

Originally Posted by Super Sanin 3

I don't believe Itachi would be able to overcome EMS Sasuke

That's the thing. Nobody knows Itachi's true power. We don't know EMS sasuke's either, but one things for certain, Itachi is smarter. I mean come on now. Even madara said Itachi could have killed him. Itachi destroyed the orochimaru in seconds. We have only seen glimpses of Itachi's power. He's physically stronger, he can stop amaterasu, and has the totsuka sword. Idk who will win, but I'll put my money on Itachi if they were to ever fight again

[Super Sanin 3]

Well the whole plot really goes for Sasuke overcoming Itachi in the end, didn't Itachi even want Sasuke to surpass him? Itachi's smarter but Sasuke's not dumb either, and he has Thunder techqiues which are really powerful, and not that's he's gained EMS he'll probably have better MS techniques. I mean it was Itachi's eyes that he transplanted, he said he felt Itachi's power flow within him. I am sure he'll be able to manipulate time with Tsuk, he's already better at ammy with blaze release, and his Susano'o is going to be OP. It seems like he can fuse ammy with his basic move set now