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Old 01-23-2013, 07:55 PM   #2461
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thanks.... NOW HINATA IS THE ONLY HYUGGA LEFT TO BE MOVED UP


come on BMC have you seen the Hinata vs Sakura thread in the Narutoverse??? The polls say it all
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Already posted in it you cant ignore sakuras canon feats and then give hianta filler feats if we go by defaults.
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what off cannon feats did I give Hinata???

I am not ignoring Sakura's feats but she has not moved as fast as sakura and she is not good at doding close ranged attacks
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Read it in the hinata vs sakura thread.

Edit : Polls prove nothing but a large group of people being misinformed
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it does when your the only one supporting her
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I was not some other guy vouched for sakura as well. Anyway here in the list one day of prep means sakura would get her poison kunai. And possibly sleep bombs.

Not that she would need them too win but just saying.
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Wow and kunai's are not hard to dodge and Sakura had to trick them to get them to fall to sleep bombs

how would sleep bombs help? using them close range is suicide and long range is easy to dodge. Hinata counters sleep bombs with air palms
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She didnt the used the sleep bomb and escaped. What trick was used here?

Kunai gives sakura atleast something to distract hinata

Hinatas staying right where she is for now.
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They boys were distracted and were fighting each other. Nobody saw Sakura as a threat. Nobody fought her.

Since when did a kuani distact anyone. HInata would be awry of it or aware but not something that would put her off her game. Sakura is not that proficient with kuani's. Kuani';s rearely get the job done for these level ninja

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Your really overestimating the gates. I have no doubt in my mind that they give extreme power boosts but for you to say Naruto boost only equates to Lee in 2nd gate is just ridiculous.

Hinata Air Palmed a Juubi tail nearly effortlessly with that boost.
thats completely different man. Thats That was a Technique from her clan that requires chakra.. of course it is going to be a major boost with Naruto's chakra.. why dont you just take a look at Lee's 4th Gate Speed compared to his base.. there was an insanely huge difference which brings me to conclusion that the Gates has a much better boost up then Naruto's pat on the back. Lee's Speed he showed against Madara was close to Gai's Speed when he opened the 3rd Gate when he first attacked Obito when they were trying to save Naruto!

i should have never said 2nd Gate my fault but. that boost is not equal to the 4th or above Gates.. thats for sure.
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since Hinata vs Sakura was not finished...

can we AT LEAST put Tsuande below Kisame... PLEASE
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No you dont only need to look what kisame can defeat but also what tsunade could defeat. And while kisame would clearly lose to sage mode. Tsunade has a chance. Although i agree that tsunade would most likely lose against kisame.
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Kisame practically defeated Bee
Kisame kept up with Guy without his Samehada
Kisame is top teir in the Akaskui

Tsuande never defeated anyone by herself
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Kisame practically defeated Bee

Bee had two people to protect and bee had no knowledge.

Kisame kept up with Guy without his Samehada

He got stomped by gai with and without his samehada.

Kisame is top teir in the Akaskui

Debatable, sure hes top tier in naruto verse but in akatsuki i would say hes mid-tier compared to monsters like itachi,nagato,tobi (basicly the people with magic eyeballs) and konan w/prep.

Tsuande never defeated anyone by herself
Neither did kisame on panel he got beat three times by gai
Tsunade can barely handle Kakazu or Sasori
barely means she can handle them. Kisame wouldnt do to well against sasori either.
I cant put kisame above sm naruto or jiraiya because he auto loses because of sage chakra.
While tsunade can tank anything sm jiraiya has and sm naruto(save for rasenshuriken).
Kisame loses in both the durablity and strenght department to tsunade

The point is she the best non-edo tank in the series and hits harder then A. Who crashes through walls casually without his raiton armor.

Putting kisame above tsunade would mean he would be above might guy which obviously would be wrong , lowering tsunade would mean shes in the wrong place too as shes still conscious after being bisected and hits as hard as A.
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I know Kisame would lose to SM but so would Tsuande. Just because she can tank everything does not mean she would win. And how can you say except for something but Tsuande would still beat him??? Because of RasenSHuriken SM Naruto would beat her.

SM Jiryria would beat her with Frog Song

Kisame is still top-teir in the akasuki. (I would say top 5 is strongest.top teir and Kisame is 5th)

Well Tsuande has to fall below sages at least due to....
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Frog Song needs some prep time. Tsunade could close the distance and hit. I mean she reacted to madara. Not to mention tsuande still can tank anything done to her while under frog song.

Been thinking about RS for a while now. Its not undodgeable but still it would hurt tsunade because it hurts cells.

But if it cuts like it did to madara last chapter she should be able to handle it.
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Frog Song needs some prep time.
lolz did you forget the rules in the OP?? Jiryria has 24hrs prep.... I think that is more than enough time to use Frog Song. And even if it wasn't Jiryria's frogs can stall for that time period. Tsuande is not catching that
Tsunade could close the distance and hit.
How she is not that fast
I mean she reacted to madara.
So? 3 boss toads can jump in the air to gain massive distance
Not to mention tsuande still can tank anything done to her while under frog song.
But in that genjutsu she is UNABLE TO BATTLE. Tsuande is not that good with genjutsu either.
How would she tank dark swamp

Been thinking about RS for a while now. Its not undodgeable but still it would hurt tsunade because it hurts cells.
EXACTLY! ANd Naruto has shown to be able to throw more than one very quickly and effectively with great aim

But if it cuts like it did to madara last chapter she should be able to handle it.
you mean Lee? Lee was the one who attacked Madara. It just cut though Obito cuz it did not make contact
what about dark swamp??
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oh and why is Base Kabuto
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And SM kabuto (by himself) not on this list
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Honestly idk.

Putting him on right now. Idk why they only put him+edo tensei army in the list.

Putting him as sage for now , maybe add his base later or not (most of his shippuden feats come from sm anyway).

Added Kabuto Yakushi -Sage mode to the list. Hes above tsunade its just temporary until a better spot is found although he might stay in that spot if no has a problem with that.
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oh and 2 more questions

1-How does Tsuande dodge/surive Rasenshuriken spam
2-how does she beat Jiryria's Frog Song + Dark swamp combo
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