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Old 01-23-2013, 10:02 AM   #2441
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3rd Raikage - He would murk kisame before could even use a jutsu (a la A and B)
Also strong enough to tank rasenshuriken not that kisame has will hurt him. And the 3rd raikage in lightning armor should be alot faster then tsunade.
Killerbee - Currently posseses samehada if im not wrong. And he had ponta and that other guy to protect otherwise he could just go Giant and crush kisame.
A - Hes alot faster then Bee is atleast from what we have seen.He blitzes.
Hidan - we dont know if temari could sever limbs.
Kimimaro - Bone armor
Jugo - His curse mark skin can tank weapons.
Kidomaru - Needles to the eyes.

Problem with the place you wanna put her is she can mostly tank anything which those below can throw at her save for rasenshuriken. Its not just offense thats counting here.
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Just a warning.

Also Kisame would start in Sanehada fusion. So he'd end up taking the Raikage by sucking his chakra.

But it's possible he could funnel lightning chakra and electrocute kisame
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I think narutos power might actually be atleast as powerfull as gates. Just look at hinata from stomped by deva to soloing a juubi tail. Kakashi feints from kamui-ing a kunai to kamui-ing bijuus.

Regardless it isnt really lees feat when helped by the kyuubi-chakra.
no way in hell is Naruto's boost equal to the boost the Gates gives you.. Just look at the manga and compare it. when Lee was a Genin fighting Gaara. When he activated the 4th Gate. You could barely see him!, joggling his opponent in the air!! thats insane dude. the Boost Naruto gave Lee is equivalent to 2nd Gate Max.
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no way in hell is Naruto's boost equal to the boost the Gates gives you.. Just look at the manga and compare it. when Lee was a Genin fighting Gaara. When he activated the 4th Gate. You could barely see him!, joggling his opponent in the air!! thats insane dude. the Boost Naruto gave Lee is equivalent to 2nd Gate Max.
Your really overestimating the gates. I have no doubt in my mind that they give extreme power boosts but for you to say Naruto boost only equates to Lee in 2nd gate is just ridiculous.

Hinata Air Palmed a Juubi tail nearly effortlessly with that boost.
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Ight BMC if this rant does not change your mind NOTHING WILL
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Chiyo stoppedsasori's movements so she could break the first puppet

Chp.267 pg 7.
Even with chakra strings attached Sakura could not move out of the way of sasoris attack and had to be saved by chiyo

Chp.268 pg 13
sakura can not evade the iron sand so is aved by mother puppet

chp 269 of 4
Sakura once again is saved by the mother puppet by chiyo

vhp 270 pg 17
sakura gets hit by sasoris attack again

CHo 273 pg 8 n 18
sakura only destroys one puppet but as another puppet surprises sakura chiyo protects her while chiyo gest hit. Way to go sakura. And then sakura fails to get herself and chiyo both out of the way without getting harmed

sakura would not have gotten past the first puppet without the help from chiyo

PLEASE! Stop bringing up the Sasori vs Sakura AND CHIYO fight unless you have a specific event

Please prove that Sakura is fast enough to dodge and hit hinata
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I already gave you pages which showed sakuras own (reaction) speed feats even supported by a statement by chiyo herself.

Copy pasted them here for you to read again from my old post(s).

Chapter 270 chiyo first says that sakura has begun to see through sasoris attacks and that she can do it without her assitance , then near the end of the chapter the smashes the third kazekage puppet without help.(chiyo was knocked down).

Chapter 540 turns out she reacted to an actual suprise attack of zetsu-neji and punched without screaming or charging.

Chapter 272 intercepts sasoris attack on chiyo.

Chaper 273 smashes some of sasori puppets by herself. From this point onwards chiyo hands are occupied with her 10 puppets so all feats after that are her own.

How are those not specific events again?

As long as that fight is a source of a good amount of her feats i will keep bringing it up as it contains the few Timeskip feats she has. And regardless of help its still more then hinata has shown. And the feats i pointed out were all with no help as choyo as either occupied or knocked down herself.

The fight happned wheteher you want it or not you cant ask people to stop bringing it up.
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I WIll GIVe credit for Sakura for fooling both of them. But figuring out Hinata's taijutsu and Sasori's puppets is totally differnt. Most of Sasori's attacks do not have minds of their own and can switch off or react. To expereience HInata's taijutsu you have to be up close

okay she does not yell all the time. But the zetsu did not expect for Sakura to react. Hinata and Sakura would both know they were a threat in their battle 1v1. Plus Zetsu is weak and just had a kunai.

but fails to save herself and chiyo

Sasori is controlling multipe puppets. This is like when Hinata took down Many zetsu. It does not make saskura special.

They are specifc.... BUT NONE OF THEM SHOW SHE IS AS FAST AS PTS HINATA
Hinata moved so fast she was a blur while in those references you can clearly see and keep up with Sakura

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ALright. Sakura and Hinata are fighting 1v1 in the konoha crater 50m away
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-How does Sakura react to Air Palms (a fast attack that can barely be seen.)

-How does Sakura dodge/hit Hinata in cqc? (Hinata has practiced in the BEST with the elite for of taijutsu in the leaf. She has more experience fighting close up. Sakura does not have experience fighting close up.)

When has Sakura ever landed a hit on a foe that
-was not expecting it
-was not able to move
-someone she tricked
Sakura never hit anyone in a fair fight head on

HInat is a close AND MID range fighter... Sakura is just close. Advantage HINATA

Hinata can see just about anything Sakura can/will do due to bykugan so Sakura is not going to trick hinata easily
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I mean Sakura has more feats which could put her up above, I agree to that.

But I'd still say she'd win one on one.
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but sakura's abundace of screentime has poor feats (for the most part)

-She is not an expert in taijutsu
-she is slower than most
-she got beat by Omoi with a single kick
-she can not be mobile while she heals

A few touches from hinata or keeping it mid ranged battle Hinata would win by distance spam. Even if sakura was faster it is not by a significant amount
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Idk if you responded to this earlier, BMC. But the tailed beasts essentially befriended their hosts during their confrontation with Naruto. I would say that at this point host transformation is definitely in the realm of possibility

I would move them myself but if you disagreed it would be a pain to re-arrange
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Sora,

do you think Hinata is stronger than Sakura??? If you agree you can move Hinata higher right? At this point I think only BMC thinks Sakura is stronger somehow????


Must I need to remind yall that Sakura needs a CLEAN HIT to finish off/damage Hinata
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Hinata just needs a SLIGHT TOUCH to finish off/damage Sakura. Hinata's attacks barley even need contact

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No, Hinata would win in a fight between her and Sakura. Sakura has her evasive feats sure, but only way she can win is if she gets in close which is suicide since Sakura isn't exactly proficient in Taijutsu unlike Hinata. Slight touches are all she needs to shut down Sakura. If she messes up her arms then Sakura won't even be able to heal herself let alone punch

Air palm keeps her at bay and can even set up her up for a gentle fist barrage.
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YES THANK YOU!!!

Idk why BMC does not see it

I have never been so sure someone could beat someone else

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Do you think Hinata can beat Jirobo?? I mean Jirobo is bassically like Sakura but stronger!

Hinata can keep jirobo had bay and keep distance with air palms. She can see where He is constantly even underground with bykugan. ANd she is too quick and awesome at taijutsu

Right??
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I don't know about Jirobo. Unlike Sakura, Jirobo has an arsenal of earth jutsu that would definitely give Hinata trouble


He'd also start in CS2..
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Hiashi Hyuga-he should be near closer to Neji. I mean common sense says he is stronger than Neji. He can use Vacuma wave solo with both hands without help. He can do antyhing Neji can... or better
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ALL HYUUGAS NEED TO BE PUMPED UP lol


how would earth style trouble Hinata?? She breaks it with air palms
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She can't break the one barrier jutsu. It sucks your chakra. She could find its weak point but she wouldn't be able to break it because it constantly regenerates

Also I will bump Hiashi once I get on my laptop. The dude is Neji+ hype of being the clan leader and knowing all of the clans jutsu :/ Tbh he should be above.

Plus dat double air palm was as strong as Hinata's kyuubi air palm
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Moved Hiashi above Neji
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