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Old 01-22-2013, 05:16 PM   #2421
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Bump up Hinata Bump up Hinata Bump up HInata *crowd chants*

Also Shikamaru with prep could do heavy damage to Gari. Light bombs blind Gari and shadow sewing piercies him

Also Kisame should be above Tsuande

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Legend Tier
Orochimaru with Edo Tensei(Kages not full power)-Killer B uses ink to seal the kages and TBB finishes most of the job
Killer Bee-Kisame is the BEST bijju catcher. how does Kisame lose when he won last time
A-how does Kisame lose to him when he kept up with B? Kisame could go underground or use water dome or take the hit and drain his chakra
blitz Oro
Muu
Yagura - Sanbi
Kakashi Hatake
Onoki
Tsunade
Might Guy
Naruto Uzumaki - Sage Mode
Sage Mode Jiraiya
Kisame Hoshigaki-a recent thread proved he should be above tsuane but lower than SM jiryria. tsunade NEEDS to drop
Gaara w/ Shukaku
Second Mizukage
Sasuke Uchiha
Orochimaru

Kage Tier
Konan
Kin-Gin Bros
Hiruzen Sarutobi
Kakuzu
Deidara
Sasori
Fourth Kazekage
Third Kazekage
Mifune
Kitsuchi
Mei Terumi
Hanzo
Tobirama Senju
Darui
Chōji Akimichi -with or witout pills
Yugito Nii - Nibi

High Tier
Hidan
Roshi - Yonbi-cant' he melt hidan??
Mangetsu Hōzuki
Suigetsu
Han - Gobi
Chiyo
Kimimaro-wind net should pinn down Kimmi. There are a lot of wind moves taht should hold em back
Jūgo
Rock Lee
Sai
Temari
Choza Akimichi
Yamato -wood style can not counter poison mist and sasori bombs and other puppet tricks. Plus with Yamato's low stamina its over. Yamato does not have much killer moves
Utakata - Rokubi
Fu - Nanabi
Zabuza Momochi
Kankuro-should be above zabusa due to new puppet sasori (zabuza may cause mist but kankuro has lots of wide range attcks. plus zabuza has a high chance of hitting a putppet instead of kankuro. PLUSSSS Zabuxa needs water to use his water ninjutsu
Asuma Sarutobi
Hiashi Hyuga
Fuguki Suikazan
Jinpachi Munashi
Ameyuri Ringo
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Jinin Akebino
Neji Hyūga-with Neji he can see though the mist with bykugan he can blast the swordsman away with air pams and if they get close he uses 64 palms or spins with rotation. He should be above Asuma though but below Hiashi. Asuma only as on long ranged jutsu. Neji can see the chakra of the chakra blades with bykugan and dodge them. It is suicide for asuma to come close (which is what Asuma is best in) from there Neji easily dodges fire style whil hitting asuma with air palms
Haku
Kidomaru-i dont see him getting trapped in ice mirrors. and with his sticky gold armor he should be resistant to needles... right?

Mid Tier
Jirobo
Sakura Haruno
Hinata Hyūga-Dare I say Hinata can take on Jirobo. WIth Air Palms Jirobo will not be quick enough to move out of the way an that will mess with his chakra/organs. Jirobo has not shown the speed feats to keep up with Hinata CqC

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Any chance we can get Gōzu and Meizu on this list at the low tier hahaha
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If we go by numbers then doesn't Akamaru and Kiba have hundreds of insects to deal with? If you say "up until now" it means that Shino has been against more than one opponent recently. The Zetsu clones.

Kiba and Akamaru would have the advantage of speed, but Shino has it based on range of area.

I'm trying to recall Kiba's feats and Shino's...
Akamarus fang over fang does alot more damage has alot more range and is faster then anything individual bugs can do. It wasnt about numbers but what those numbers can do individually.

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Actually, id say Hinata takes Sakura. at least theyre pretty even. Air palm isn't even visible. On top of that she has twin lion fists which are pretty featless but they look like they can do some serious damage. Actually, they broke Pains chakra rods which were very durable. IIRC they could pierce through sage mode's durability

Honestly PTS Neji should take Sakura and Hinata kept up with him to some extent. All Sakura does is flail her fists around, Hinata has much more skill in taijutsu

I'd like to say she knows rotation by now but that's a mystery
As far as i know sage mode doesnt really boost durability that much. Its not like they gain hierro or a stone skin.

The only reason for that is that kaiten prevents sakura from doing anything usefull. Hinata does not have that advantage. Hence sakura should be able to hit her and hinatas dead. Keeping up with neji doesnt grant her the same abilitys.

You can simply read the direction of the air palm from where she is aiming. Someone whos smart enough to make an antidote (i think it was even mid-fight) should be smart enough to figure it out.

Replace pts neji with TS sakura. See what would happen then. And since she gained no new canon speed feats and hasnt been shown/stated to be faster then sakura the same should happen with TS hinata. And sakura still has healing. While hinata doesnt.

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Hinata starts with twin lion fists due to the prep/full power rule. She deserves a bump


Wouldn't gaiden Obito include Obito when he went berserk?

Why were the tailed beasts moved? I'm pretty sure some of them overwhelmed Naruto at some point. Pretty sure Han blitzed him, along with Yugito.

And at the end of their talk with Nruto they all became friends with their tailed beast so it's definitely possible that they could use host transform if they wanted to.
We dont know the power of twin lion fists.

Not really thats more post-gaiden.

I listened to GK's suggestion and put them as they would be in their alive forms. So no beastform/V2 for those werent stated/have shown to have it.

Note they also had Rinnegan shared field of vision and sharigans precog. That probably had a role with them keeping up with naruto/bee.

Those that overwhelmed naruto were already given a higher rank then those that didnt. What do you plan to do with the jinks then?

We can never know that.

@zeek

Who were they again?

@Prince.

I think i already moved Gari below shika

ill get to the rest later out of time now.
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thanks for updates.
Dont forget Hinata >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Sakura
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Lee and Gai better get a Boost up here..lol, Lee does the same thing he did to Madara to Tsuande!! she is not recovering!! unless your telling me a Sharingan Madara has worse reflexes than Tsuande..lol

Gates without a doubt Grants more speed and power to the user than Naruto's Tap on the back to Lee, Proff is when Gai uses his Morning Peacock!! no one till this day has even come close to that speed!!! able to create fire just by moving your hands...lol give me a break people.

!! it is time to accept Gai into your life people~! do the math. if Lee is capable of moving that fast and blitzing Madara with ease, just think if he opened the 5th or6th Gate. this also concludes that Lee Is Insanely close to A's speed! we should know now that Gai is definitely faster than A now..I knew it but people did not want to believe me.

people were underestimating Gai's speed because he really never showed any movement speed in the manga.. ok , i understand that, but now there is no ignoring it anymore!! Lee showed us his movement speed and he was traveling faster than Naruto's Rasengan! Do the math, Since Lee is super inferior to Gai. Gai should be able to move faster than Lee when he blitz Madara!.
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I think narutos power might actually be atleast as powerfull as gates. Just look at hinata from stomped by deva to soloing a juubi tail. Kakashi feints from kamui-ing a kunai to kamui-ing bijuus.

Regardless it isnt really lees feat when helped by the kyuubi-chakra.
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Hinata, Neji, Kidomara (maybe), Kankuro, and kisame need a HUGE boost as well

BMC - do you still think Sakura is better???
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Hinata, Neji, Kidomara (maybe), Kankuro, and kisame need a HUGE boost as well

BMC - do you still think Sakura is better???
You mean in the list or just in the story?

Yes i do.

Sakura survived fighting sasori hinata does not have feats that even come close too that. So Sakuras has atleast hinatas speed hence her skull is going to be cracked open.

There is nothing to prevent sakura from hitting hinata. She made people like kakashi go 'omg this iz serious bznis' when she punched a crater in the ground.

Alhtough hinatas new 'healing' gentle fist shows potential.
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Prove Sakura would "just flinch" from a DIRECT gentle fist. Sakura needs to stand still to heal after all. Hinata was stunned after getting hit

Now look at chp80 pg 6
Even after Hinata was hit she still had the will to keep fighting on at fast speeds along with Neji

May I remind you Sakura SUCKS at taijutsu she is just strong.
Look at chp452 pppg 13-15
Sakura can not even land a hit on a fodder kumo ninja
Sakura yelled as she charged up her fist
She then was kicked a side like trash with MINMAL effort

Hinata never failed that hard against a foe like that

If Sakura can not dodge that how can she dodge from a taijutsu expert from the Hyuuga clan

In Conclusion
1-How does Sakura detect Air Palms
2-How does Sakura dodge air palms
3-How does Sakura keep up with Hinata
4-Plez give speed feat that shows shes on Hinata's level
5-Prove and tell why Sakura will just "flinch" after getting hit

Sakura is not a mid range figheter
She is slower than Hinata
Sakura has fought weaker foes... and lost
Sakura needs to stand still to heal

HINATA WINS
Did you look at this BMC??

Sakura survived that battle with sasori WITH HELP FROM CHIYO! Sakura would have failed if it was not for her

Yes Sakura is strong but she RARLEY hits her foe. She could not even hit the Kumo ninja. She hit Sasori only twice with help.

You keep saying Sakura is faster but Hinata's battle with Neji proves that Hinata has better taijutsu and speed

Strenght is useless if you can not hit her foe.
Hinata would get the first hit in and she could dislocate Sakuras shoulders unabling Sakura to fight back

Or Hinata gives a close/mid range Air Palm

lol I am that we are still debating this
You are the only one who is for Sakura

The Sasori fight is not that great considering that help she got

Plz bump up Hinata
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Fodder? as far as i know that a named character. Omoi thought he was bees student or something. Hes an excellent swordsman too.

Hinata doesnt fight that much and she did fail against pain (grnated far more powerfull then anything sakura has ever fought) on the other side Sakura did punch zetsu - neji without warning and before he could react.

1. Looks where her hand points.
2. Jumps aside.
3. Sakura still has the superior speed feat even with help. Its better then having no post-timeskip speedfeats at all.
4. Sasori entire fight. TS fights > pts fights.
5. everyone hits by gentle fist flinches yes it does internal damage but my main point is hinatas dead in one hit while sakuras isnt dead after gettign hit just once.

Hinatas battle with neji not is even close to sasori and wasnt even till death. Not to mention hinata got trashed to by neji. While sakura still got a few hits in.

Neji is not comparable to sasori especially not his pts version.

And for what it counts chiyo and sakura where outnumbered by 89. (100 puppets plus sasori vs Sakura chiyo+ten puppets) when you look at it chiyo got a good deal of help from sakura too otheriwse she would have died from poison and never gotten past hiruko.
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Fodder? as far as i know that a named character. Omoi thought he was bees student or something. Hes an excellent swordsman too.
it was not him it was the girl

Hinata doesnt fight that much and she did fail against pain (grnated far more powerfull then anything sakura has ever fought) on the other side Sakura did punch zetsu - neji without warning and before he could react.
so sakura would not have done much better. PTS Neji is stronger than anything sakura fought SOLO. Hinata had much stronger foes and took on multiple zetus people

1. Looks where her hand points.
2. Jumps aside.
okay but Sakura is not familar with the unqie style of the hyuuga fighting style. She can not do this forever. It is not as predictable as Sakura's punch
3. Sakura still has the superior speed feat even with help. Its better then having no post-timeskip speedfeats at all.
How is that faster than waht PTS HInata did?? Hinata was moving as a blur and Sakura was not.
4. Sasori entire fight. TS fights > pts fights.
SHE HAD HELP! She is fighting a totallly different foe with a different style. She only hit Sasori with HELP!!
5. everyone hits by gentle fist flinches yes it does internal damage but my main point is hinatas dead in one hit while sakuras isnt dead after gettign hit just once.
true. But you can not prove that sakura will flinch and follow though with her punch. Hinata can de locate her shoulder or hit her with an Air Palm to keep her at bay.

Sakura has NEVER hit her foe wihtout help and she sucks at close combat.

Hinatas battle with neji not is even close to sasori and wasnt even till death. Not to mention hinata got trashed to by neji. While sakura still got a few hits in.
the battle was tottally different.

Neji is not comparable to sasori especially not his pts version.
you have not mentioned chiyo at all. That is the ONLY reason she got past hikuro

And for what it counts chiyo and sakura where outnumbered by 89. (100 puppets plus sasori vs Sakura chiyo+ten puppets) when you look at it chiyo got a good deal of help from sakura too otheriwse she would have died from poison and never gotten past hiruko.
Chiyo could have gotten past Hikuro.

Forget both of their fights. Lets just focus on what they could do to each other. THe point is Sakura would not hit Hianta.

Sakura
-is slow
-yells
-charges up
when she punches

That is plenty of time for Hinata to dodge

And Hinata has air palms to keep the foe at bay. If Sakura can not fight cqc then she can not cause damage
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Look at the chapter its omoi karuis hair is longer.

Multiple zetsus with neji and an entire squad.
Meanwhile sakura one shotted a zetsu.

'Hinatas not familiar with medical ninjutsu'

Dodging an s-criminals attacks with help > moving as a blur vs a genin.(and she still got thrashed despite moving like a blur.

The point is hitting sasori with help is still better then anything hinata has shown.

Neji-zetsu again no warning , 1 shotted.
If were talking pts feats anyway sakura hit ino and that was without medical training. And again zetsu-neji.

Yes 1 was a shinobi battle to the death the other one was the equivalent of a kiddy tournament.

Neji-zetsu disagrees with all your points.
She didnt scream before she attacked.
It certainly wasnt slow.
And there was no charge up.

Appearently sakura can fight without doing what you claim. Which =dead hinata.

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Choji can use calorie control freely now so i cant imagine why he would use them. So without pills i guess.

Roshi - yes he can but hes also vulnerable to hidans curse.
Kimimaro - the guy didnt budge with a desert of sand covering him. Dont think wind will do much.
Kido - As i said earlier needle to the eyes. Plus haku can attack from the sky with ice mirrors (although might have been filler to lazy to search)
Kankuro - Agreed moving him up.
Neji - Asuma also has his wind jutsu. Although i was thinking about moving neji up.
Yamato - he can use jyuutai koutan, wood clones can can slightly supress bijuu chakra and can she large scale trees like the waterfall he created.
Jirobo is not just strong but he also can drain chakra with earth dome. This also puts him above sakura.
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Look at the chapter its omoi karuis hair is longer.
i will but its still a fail for sakura. Hinata never got hit like that on a ninja that level. THey excel in kenjutsu not taijutsu

Multiple zetsus with neji and an entire squad.
Meanwhile sakura one shotted a zetsu.
and sakura took out 1 by surprise. it was barely a fight. Hinata took down more. Hinata did not get caught by zetsu

'Hinatas not familiar with medical ninjutsu'
does not need to be. But she can dis locate or relocate shoulders

Dodging an s-criminals attacks with help > moving as a blur vs a genin.(and she still got thrashed despite moving like a blur.
give me a speed feat chp and page to prove sakura is faster

The point is hitting sasori with help is still better then anything hinata has shown.
but sakura does not have help now so how does she hit hinata?

Neji-zetsu again no warning , 1 shotted.
If were talking pts feats anyway sakura hit ino and that was without medical training. And again zetsu-neji.
so how does she hit Hinata without the element of suprise or help?

Yes 1 was a shinobi battle to the death the other one was the equivalent of a kiddy tournament.
neji came at her with the intent to kill. It was not kiddy and you know it

Neji-zetsu disagrees with all your points.
She didnt scream before she attacked.
prove it. show me when she does not.
It certainly wasnt slow.
And there was no charge up.

then why does she need help or surpise on her side to hit her foe?? Why did Omi and Co. dodge her attack

Appearently sakura can fight without doing what you claim. Which =dead hinata.
prove it
again you are the ONLY one to think Sakura wins
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Hinata gets barely any screentime.

But Neji did get caught by zetsu and we all know neji>hinata. Getting caught by zetsu has nothing to do with this.

We have only seen her fix shoulders. Plus it might have had something to do with the kyuubi chakra.

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forget the helping hype how does Sakura beat Hinata??????????????

Sakura can not get close it is too dangerous.
Hinata can attack her from afar
Sakura can not heal while moving
You have failed to give a specific speed feat of Sakura being faster

how does sakura win 1v1
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The chapters atleast show has sakura enough reaction time to battle hinata.

Sakura hits her with superior reaction time atleast. Not to mention she could see through sasoris attack patterns so air palm wont be a problem.



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Akamarus fang over fang does alot more damage has alot more range and is faster then anything individual bugs can do. It wasnt about numbers but what those numbers can do individually.
Shino's insects actually have more range. According to Kakashi the Aburame's insects work by surrounding an area on a whole rather than just one point.
Fang Over Fang does heavy and fast damage, but the Kikaichu are deadly due to sheer numbers, overall range and quick ability to capture and drain.

Why does it matter what the bugs do individually? They don't work that way. They attack their prey in numbers. Just like Kiba and Akamaru attack by teaming up.
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The chapters atleast show has sakura enough reaction time to battle hinata.
cqc reaction time and long range reaction time is different.
Hyuuuga's fighting style is unqiue and different than Sasor's attacks
PLUS SAKURA HAD HELP

Sakura hits her with superior reaction time atleast. Not to mention she could see through sasoris attack patterns so air palm wont be a problem.
but who is to say she could see though Hinata's

Chapter 540 turns out she reacted to an actual suprise attack of zetsu-neji and punched without screaming or charging.
is zetsu an expert in taijutsu NO
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Legend Tier
Tobi - Base
Naruto Uzumaki - Kurama Mode
Kurama
Nagato
Pain
Itachi Uchiha
Danzo Shimura
Minato Namikaze
3rd Raikage-would also lose to kisame and drown
Orochimaru with Edo Tensei(Kages not full power)
Killer Beehe lost to kisame
Ahow does he beat Kisame when B barely did
Muu
Yagura - Sanbi
Kakashi Hatake
Onoki
Tsunade
Might Guy
Naruto Uzumaki - Sage Mode
Sage Mode Jiraiya
Kisame Hoshigaki
Tsuande!!!!!! Kisame would drown her
Gaara w/ Shukaku
Second Mizukage
Sasuke Uchiha
Orochimaru

High Tier
Hidan-how does he surive wind net or slicing winds
Roshi - Yonbi
Mangetsu Hōzuki
Suigetsu
Han - Gobi
Chiyo
Kimimaro-how does he surive wind net or slicing winds
Jūgo-how does he surive wind net or slicing winds
Rock Lee
Sai
Temari
Choza Akimichi
Kankuro
Yamato
Utakata - Rokubi
Neji Hyūga
Fu - Nanabi
ikdomaru
Zabuza Momochi
Asuma Sarutobi
Hiashi Hyuga
Fuguki Suikazan
Jinpachi Munashi
Ameyuri Ringo
Kushimaru Kuriarare
Jinin Akebino
Haku
Kidomaru-woud he REALLY let himself get caught in ice mirros. And his skin would not be piereced. also his armor could stand up to swords. With a day prep Kidomaru can set traps and webs

Mid Tier
Sakon/Ukon
HINATA!!!!
SHe can see though her sensi's genjutsu
She can use air palms on jirobo to hit him and she is faster and has better taijutus
She can see the mind transfer and dodge it
She beats sakura with cqc
Inoichi Yamanaka
Kurenai Yūhi
Jirobo
Sakura Haruno
Hinata Hyūga
Kotetsu Hagane-he is stronger cuz he walks on foe's water & Izumo Kamizuki
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