Naruto Tier List - Group Debate

[Sosuke]

The thing is, Kamui has never actually defeated a single opponent. Ooooh woooow he warped an arrow and a missile. The fact of the matter is, he has never effectively used it in battle to defeat an opponent.

Due to PNJ. If Naruto didn't show up Kakashi would've sent Kakazu to another dimension. Don't try to deny manga canon.

By your logic, Kakashi could defeat nearly anyone above him just because he could warp them into Kamuiville. Unfortunately, it doesn't work that way.

Kamui could one shot most of Narutoverse, doesn't mean Kakashi is stronger than anyone. However, even wind arc Kakashi was giving Kakazu some trouble (even though Hidan was also attacking Kakashi) Since then Kakashi has shown better feats

What has Kakazu shown since that fight? Yeah, getting revived and trolled lmao.

[Sosuke]

You mean after Naruto does 90% of the damage to Kakuzu? Yeah, because that's totally valid.

And you mean after Kakashi was exhausted, had a injured arm before even entering the battle. Had to hold of Kakazu and Hidan at the same time.

Nice try bro.

Are you frustrated?

[TheBlackChidori]

You seem to be the frustrated one. You've done nothing but cry about downreps, insult people and the forum, and accuse someone debating you of trolling.

You still haven't brought up the time when Kakuzu combined Futon and Katon, Kakashi failed to counter with Suiton, and then was caught in Kakuzu's thread trap and was free for the taking until Hidan activated the ritual. On top of that, Kakuzu was only trying to take Kakashi's heart, not even kill him.

Hidan and Kakuzu only teamed up twice when they were both present on the battlefield. The first time involved Kakashi getting kicked into a mountain by Kakuzu, the second time involved nearly getting blasted by Kakuzu's elements due to a Hidan feint. Then Shikamaru seperated them and Kakuzu proceeded to whoop Kakashi's ass.

I'm done with you. You're a fangirl, nothing but.

[Kreegah!!!]

Is it spam if I mention I'm only here to watch while I snack on Movie candies?

[Devils Lawyer]

Time to throw gas on the flame. You do know that kakashi has fought Gai fifty times so out of those times Gai has entered his gated mode and Kakashi has still won. Okay now resume.

[Cult of Personality]

Few if any of those times involved actual combat. They mostly seemed to consist of arbitrary challenges that Kakashi made up to avoid having to waste more time on Gai than necessary, e.g. rock paper scissors.

[321zigzag3]

I did not realize that thread had a lot of recent conflict.

AS for the Danzo and Minato.

The only reason I can say Danzo beating Minato is because of Shisui's eye.
Or if Danzo gets Minato in Izanagi spawn then thats that.

However, Minato is capable of killing Danzo in 10 minutes with FTG.

Its also about the matchups you know since Naruto is not DBZ in matchups.

As for tier list disagreements, yes yes its inevitable that everyone will not like it.

I for one stay away from tier lists for that reason regardless how good it may be.

I for one have seen too many tier lists many are varied and not just for NAruto. Goes for anything.
You stop caring about tier lists in general after awhile.

Originally Posted by Sosuke

I would've thought this site would see the light by now....but nooo.

You should not antagonise everyone by linking all to this thread. Most are not part of it. Partially many stopped caring.

But however, insulting TBC over a "fictional tier list" won't get you anywhere.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

Few if any of those times involved actual combat. They mostly seemed to consist of arbitrary challenges that Kakashi made up to avoid having to waste more time on Gai than necessary, e.g. rock paper scissors.

Point but both are intimate with eachother fighting styles. Gai was the one who came up with the fighting style to fight the sharigan. Not only that on more than one occasion Gai has acknowledged kakashi as his equal in combat. It is pretty much heavily suggested they have fought a few times. Also the goofy challenges is anime if I am not mistaken.

[321zigzag3]

As for the Kakuzu and Kakashi thing, minus Kamui I personally am of the opinion Kakuzu is the superior fighter although Kakashi is more likely to utilize old fashioned misdirection and evasive tactics

[Super Sanin 3]

Kakashi has gotten a bit stronger since when he fought Kakuzu (Lighting release clones + Raikiri wolves etc.), but Kakuzu is prone to being a bit more underrated considering that he got trolled twice >.>

Right now i feel that Kakashi should be about Kakuzu level w/o Kamui, since he can utilize knowledge better than Kakuzu would.

[Midnight789]

Originally Posted by Devils Lawyer

Point but both are intimate with eachother fighting styles. Gai was the one who came up with the fighting style to fight the sharigan. Not only that on more than one occasion Gai has acknowledged kakashi as his equal in combat. It is pretty much heavily suggested they have fought a few times. Also the goofy challenges is anime if I am not mistaken.

no way is Kakashi equal to Gai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AN where in the hell did you get the idea tht Gai has every used Gates on Kakashi????? Gai said himself that that technique is only for dier occasions!
Actually Gai never stated Kakashi was his equal.....

He actually said right to Sasuke; " I AM STRONGER THAN KAKASHI!"...

here it is: Chapter 38 Page 13!!!.




NEVER SPEAK OF GAI IN THAT MANNER!!!!!..lol

[Sosuke]

lol midnight he was talking about their win-loss record also. Which consist of games like rock, paper, s............

Kakashi and Gai are comparable in power, the manga has made this soooooo obvious.

As for you Gai didn't use gates against Kakashi is baseless, that's like saying Kakashi never used raikiri against Gai.

Either one can beat the other

Kakashi is better than Gai is almost every way besides Speed/Taijutsu/Stamina

They are both comparable in power.

Gai is freaking awesome, but him and Kakashi are around the same level.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

here it is: Chapter 38 Page 13!!!.




NEVER SPEAK OF GAI IN THAT MANNER!!!!!..lol

Using very very old Manga Part 1 chapters for the current status, where Part 2 inflation is common, as evidence will not get you anywhere.

[Cult of Personality]

Just because someone says something is so that doesn't make it so. 99.9999999% of the Narutoverse believe that Sasuke is the greatest thing since sliced bread.

[Devils Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

no way is Kakashi equal to Gai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AN where in the hell did you get the idea tht Gai has every used Gates on Kakashi????? Gai said himself that that technique is only for dier occasions!
Actually Gai never stated Kakashi was his equal.....

He actually said right to Sasuke; " I AM STRONGER THAN KAKASHI!"...

here it is: Chapter 38 Page 13!!!.




NEVER SPEAK OF GAI IN THAT MANNER!!!!!..lol

Rival and equal go hand and hand. One ups the other in an never ending cycle. So 50 challenges with layered suggestion of them fighting. Also I didn't see Gai being offered the seat for Hokage. Oops my bad low blow.

[Midnight789]

What is it that i am reading??????

What Move or Strategy can Kakashi seriously do against a 7th Gate Gai?????/

A Person whose reaction has been upgraded to the point of hearing Kisame Twitch under WATER!!!!!!! when he told him not to move, Thats freaken Insane!!.

He Cant Kamui every thing away. The AFternoon Tiger is too big, The Morning Peacock is too Fast and Wide!..

dont get me wrong i love Kakashi, Im probably going a little over board, but when you say they are equal in Power. thats when i have to disagree! every move Kakashi has, can easily be dodged by Gated Gai. Fact!!!!

but due to Kakashi's amazing intellect. Kakashi can beat Gai but not more times than Gai beating him!

[Wooster]

Kakashi could suck himself into Kamui and wait for Guy to die.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

What is it that i am reading??????

What Move or Strategy can Kakashi seriously do against a 7th Gate Gai?????/

A Person whose reaction has been upgraded to the point of hearing Kisame Twitch under WATER!!!!!!! when he told him not to move, Thats freaken Insane!!.

He Cant Kamui every thing away. The AFternoon Tiger is too big, The Morning Peacock is too Fast and Wide!..

dont get me wrong i love Kakashi, Im probably going a little over board, but when you say they are equal in Power. thats when i have to disagree! every move Kakashi has, can easily be dodged by Gated Gai. Fact!!!!

but due to Kakashi's amazing intellect. Kakashi can beat Gai but not more times than Gai beating him!

Regardless of what you say it doesn't the fact using very old manga chapters as proof doesn't get you anywhere plus statements.

Now what you have said as proof you should have said that earlier. Although many of us knew that already what Gai is capable of.

[Midnight789]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag3

Regardless of what you say it doesn't the fact using very old manga chapters as proof doesn't get you anywhere plus statements.

Now what you have said as proof you should have said that earlier. Although many of us knew that already what Gai is capable of.

i dont that because it took a long time for Gai to be put on the Legendary List.

but really look at this feats.... Able to Hear Kisame Twitch Under Water!!!!!!!!! now this feat is freaken amazing!!

This really tells us that his senses are so high in the 7th Gate!! that nearly almost nothing can catch him off guard.

im just trying to let you know how amazing that feat is.

[321zigzag3]

Originally Posted by Midnight789

i dont that because it took a long time for Gai to be put on the Legendary List.

You cared so much about Gai not being on the list?

A list is just a list.

but really look at this feats.... Able to Hear Kisame Twitch Under Water!!!!!!!!! now this feat is freaken amazing!!

Yes it is.

This really tells us that his senses are so high in the 7th Gate!! that nearly almost nothing can catch him off guard.

Ok

im just trying to let you know how amazing that feat is.

Ok