Naruto Tier List - Group Debate - Page 102

Cult of Personality · 02-15-2012, 12:55 PM

Bee definitely needs to go above Suckato.

Devils Lawyer · 02-15-2012, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by PuffPuffPanda

Bee already proved he's powerless against Nagato using only two paths, and I wouldn't put him past Itachi, although the two could match each other pretty close. Madara is superior to both of those dojutsu users.

Bee's not top tier, but he should be at the highest spot of the next tier right below.

Bee didn't fight at full power. That rotation alone he made against Tobi would finish Nagato. The speed and destructive nature of that attack would overwhelm Nagato. Espicially since Nagato can't absorb it.

As for Madara they are pretty close in abilities. Bee has te tha capabilities to go against anything in Madara's arsenal. Meteor bijuu ball. Wood element rotation bijuu ball. Susanoo bijuu ball. Genjutsu is useless against Bee. Did I miss anything?

NagatoGod_of_Pain · 02-15-2012, 03:26 PM

Suigetsu should get a major jump. He can drown anyone that simply breaks him apart and is remotely close.

However, Ringo would still be able to beat him, who is directly above Suigetsu. Besides Ringo, Suigetsu should be above Jugo at the least.

The Immortal Watch Dog · 02-15-2012, 04:12 PM

A and Bee and Naruto should be above everyone due to the massive speed gap Gai doing his one shot moves too

Kisame not far behind

TheBlackChidori · 02-16-2012, 10:30 AM

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Cult of Personality · 02-16-2012, 10:32 AM

Sasuke is below A. 3RK is above Suckato. Orochimaru wit ET is below them all.

Good stuff.,

Wooster · 02-16-2012, 10:36 AM

Danzo just below Nagato? I like. Good placement of the tailed beasts.

I think Sugetsu and Jugo are both too high, but I can't really argue that they can't beat those below them except perhaps butterfly Choji. Hidan seems to be screwed. By hype off panel he did beat the Two tail, but then that seems a fluke

TheBlackChidori · 02-16-2012, 10:48 AM

Yeah Hidan is difficult to place. I also believe Kakuzu helped him but whatever. His immortality can be a pain for anyone without knowledge, but they have that here so he gets downgraded.

Suigetsu may be high but I just can't see many below him doing any damage.

Also notice that Tsunade getting kicked out of Kage tier.

Wooster · 02-16-2012, 10:54 AM

That is best thing ever.
I still think A and 3rd outrank KB, but I don't really care about that.

TheBlackChidori · 02-16-2012, 10:59 AM

I factored in Samehada. It can drain 7-Tails of chakra so yeah, definitely helps there. Not to mention KB punched Raikage during his V2 shroud.

Wooster · 02-16-2012, 11:08 AM

Pretty sure A dropped it so they could compete on strength alone. I guess, but KB barely uses it.

TheBlackChidori · 02-16-2012, 11:10 AM

You should make the A Vs. KB Vs. 3rd debate. I'm pretty neutral on the whole thing.

Wooster · 02-16-2012, 11:11 AM

Alright. That sounds interesting anyway.

Wooster · 02-16-2012, 12:54 PM

Except that happened nearly on panel in the manga. At least Deidara talked about it, so it is hype at least, which is allowed here.

Cult of Personality · 02-22-2012, 09:43 AM

Madara needs to go down.

Hashirama's already beat him once, and Kabuto just said he couldn't compete with Hashirama. Rinnegan is not a good excuse because he had that when they fought at the Valley of the End and Hashirama still killed him.

Lone_Espada · 02-22-2012, 09:51 AM

Madara didn't have the Rinnegan when he fought Hashirama at the Valley of the End. Madara got the Rinnegan after the fight.

Cult of Personality · 02-22-2012, 10:05 AM

So then the Rinnegan is one of Kabuto's ideas. Because, and I confess that my memory is a bit foggy here, was he not dead after the fight?

Unless Kishimoto gave him the ability to self-revive (which I wouldn't be at all surprised at, being that he's an Uchiha), doesn't seem to me that dead guys can unlock

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Wooster · 02-22-2012, 10:08 AM

Madara got the rinnegan, just after he lost. Yeah...

And now Madara is both because O-Man just thought Danzo's idea was the bee's knees.

Vivi · 02-22-2012, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cult of Personality

So then the Rinnegan is one of Kabuto's ideas. Because, and I confess that my memory is a bit foggy here, was he not dead after the fight?

Unless Kishimoto gave him the ability to self-revive (which I wouldn't be at all surprised at, being that he's an Uchiha), doesn't seem to me that dead guys can unlock

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Nope.Madara survived the fight due to his plan of only being after Hashirama's DNA.

It was only shortly before his true death he got the Rinnegan though who knows when this was.

Fact is.
Madara sruvived and lived for an unknown amount of time after that.

Cult of Personality · 02-22-2012, 10:19 AM

I have fallen victim to lolKishi.

02-15-2012, 12:55 PM	#2021
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Bee definitely needs to go above Suckato.

02-15-2012, 03:26 PM	#2023
NagatoGod_of_Pain Chunin Exam Proctor Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: On the Pursuit of Happiness Posts: 1,801 Rep Power: 7	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Suigetsu should get a major jump. He can drown anyone that simply breaks him apart and is remotely close. However, Ringo would still be able to beat him, who is directly above Suigetsu. Besides Ringo, Suigetsu should be above Jugo at the least. __________________ Late ass nights come from long days Doin' all the right things in the wrong ways Doin' all the wrong things for the right reasons Tryin' to fix the whole world in every season

02-15-2012, 04:12 PM	#2024
The Immortal Watch Dog Mad dog on a loose leash Justice of the BG Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 7,013 Rep Power: 18	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate A and Bee and Naruto should be above everyone due to the massive speed gap Gai doing his one shot moves too Kisame not far behind

02-16-2012, 10:30 AM	#2025
TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Major changes done. Opinions? Rep for approval!!!

02-16-2012, 10:32 AM	#2026
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Sasuke is below A. 3RK is above Suckato. Orochimaru wit ET is below them all. Good stuff.,

02-16-2012, 10:36 AM	#2027
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Danzo just below Nagato? I like. Good placement of the tailed beasts. I think Sugetsu and Jugo are both too high, but I can't really argue that they can't beat those below them except perhaps butterfly Choji. Hidan seems to be screwed. By hype off panel he did beat the Two tail, but then that seems a fluke __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-16-2012, 10:48 AM	#2028
TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Yeah Hidan is difficult to place. I also believe Kakuzu helped him but whatever. His immortality can be a pain for anyone without knowledge, but they have that here so he gets downgraded. Suigetsu may be high but I just can't see many below him doing any damage. Also notice that Tsunade getting kicked out of Kage tier.

02-16-2012, 10:54 AM	#2029
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate That is best thing ever. I still think A and 3rd outrank KB, but I don't really care about that. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-16-2012, 10:59 AM	#2030
TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate I factored in Samehada. It can drain 7-Tails of chakra so yeah, definitely helps there. Not to mention KB punched Raikage during his V2 shroud.

02-16-2012, 11:08 AM	#2031
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Pretty sure A dropped it so they could compete on strength alone. I guess, but KB barely uses it. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-16-2012, 11:10 AM	#2032
TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate You should make the A Vs. KB Vs. 3rd debate. I'm pretty neutral on the whole thing.

02-16-2012, 11:11 AM	#2033
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Alright. That sounds interesting anyway. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-16-2012, 12:54 PM	#2034
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Except that happened nearly on panel in the manga. At least Deidara talked about it, so it is hype at least, which is allowed here. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-22-2012, 09:43 AM	#2035
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Madara needs to go down. Hashirama's already beat him once, and Kabuto just said he couldn't compete with Hashirama. Rinnegan is not a good excuse because he had that when they fought at the Valley of the End and Hashirama still killed him.

02-22-2012, 10:05 AM	#2037
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate So then the Rinnegan is one of Kabuto's ideas. Because, and I confess that my memory is a bit foggy here, was he not dead after the fight? Unless Kishimoto gave him the ability to self-revive (which I wouldn't be at all surprised at, being that he's an Uchiha), doesn't seem to me that dead guys can unlock .

02-22-2012, 10:08 AM	#2038
Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,981 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Madara got the rinnegan, just after he lost. Yeah... And now Madara is both because O-Man just thought Danzo's idea was the bee's knees. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

02-22-2012, 10:19 AM	#2040
Cult of Personality Super Banned Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,800 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate I have fallen victim to lolKishi.

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