Naruto Tier List - Group Debate - Page 101

SimpleGenin · 01-29-2012, 07:45 PM

The Second Mizukage is above Muu? I woud have thought its the other way around

SimpleGenin · 01-29-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Giants620

Jokey Boy was a jutsu even The second Tsuchikage has no answer to. Stated by Onoki in the Manga. Thats why.

Why isn't Kagami Uchiha on this List or Santa Yamanaka or Ensui Nara?

Genjustu or the infinite explosion whachacall it?

SimpleGenin · 01-29-2012, 08:47 PM

Dust Release cant stop it?

SimpleGenin · 01-29-2012, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Giants620

I don't think so

I dont know. The fact that Tsunade and A both believed that Onoki would be the only one that can beat Mu pretty much puts Mu above The Second Mizukage.

SimpleGenin · 01-30-2012, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Giants620

well the fact that the Second Mizukage survived after his battle with Mu and Mu did not tells me that second Mizu wins. Albeit for a very short time.

i guess thats true too.

Wooster · 01-30-2012, 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Giants620

Jokey Boy was a jutsu even The second Tsuchikage has no answer to. Stated by Onoki in the Manga. Thats why.

Why isn't Kagami Uchiha on this List or Santa Yamanaka or Ensui Nara?

No feats and they are unimportant.

Stop spamming this thread with inane questions.

TheBlackChidori · 02-02-2012, 10:05 AM

So I almost feel like Naruto is better than Madara and Hashirama at this point.

PuffPuffPanda · 02-02-2012, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SimpleGenin

I dont know. The fact that Tsunade and A both believed that Onoki would be the only one that can beat Mu pretty much puts Mu above The Second Mizukage.

They believed he was best suited from his background knowledge and similar techs.

Yet even Muu stated Onoki had little chance against him unless he called in Gaara for back up.

Uchiha Sora · 02-06-2012, 05:18 PM

Is Darui around V1 A's speed? When they doubleteamed Sasuke, Darui and A both got to Sasuke at the same time.

TheBlackChidori · 02-06-2012, 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Uchiha_Sora

Is Darui around V1 A's speed? When they doubleteamed Sasuke, Darui and A both got to Sasuke at the same time.

Highly doubt it. A's been known to lower his power/speed for double teams, like with the Lariat with KB.

Uchiha Sora · 02-06-2012, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

Highly doubt it. A's been known to lower his power/speed for double teams, like with the Lariat with KB.

But thats for the lariat. They can't decapitate the victim if the power isn't balanced.

But here he's just trying to smash his head open.

And according to Naruto, A's V1 form definitely has the power to do it alone

Cult of Personality · 02-06-2012, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBlackChidori

So I almost feel like Naruto is better than Madara and Hashirama at this point.

Two guys that are stronger than an entire Kyuubi where Naruto is maxed out on half a Kyuubi.

TheBlackChidori · 02-07-2012, 07:25 AM

Just because they can control it doesn't mean they're stronger. Even Sasuke was able to control/restrain Naruto's Kyuubi. I doubt you think he's stronger. THe Kyuubi is just weak to Sharingan and Senju chakra.

And apparently, half the Kyuubi is enough to overpower 5 other full Bijuu when used in conjunction with Naruto's power. I think they both play a part in that. At this point, it's not impossible to say that Naruto is stronger than half a Kyuubi on Uzumaki/Sage chakra alone. I don't think the Kyuubi alone is stronger than 5 Bijuu, or else they would fear the Kyuubi a lot more.

He was able to take out the 3rd Raikage on Sage Chakra alone, who was strong enough to go Toe to Toe with the Hachibi.

Kushina had an entire Kyuubi within her. She definitely wasn't stronger than Naruto. He just doesn't have the Yin chakra, meaning no All-Creation for him

Wooster · 02-07-2012, 07:33 AM

I think there the degree of control is really important for Tailed Beasts. Clearly the ones controlled by Tobi are nowhere near KB and Naruto's power level.

Likewise, Kurama by himself is probably weaker without Naruto.

By feats Naruto is better than Hashirama and Tobi now.

PuffPuffPanda · 02-08-2012, 10:09 AM

The Sanbi example comes into play as well.

Deidara one shot the Sanbi (we know he had low difficulty because he didn't even take off his cloak) but Danzo stated that Yagura was only one of four shinobi in history to completely tame a bijuu.

I severely doubt Deidara could one shot a fully cooperative Yagura and Isobu with a C2 fish...

Wooster · 02-08-2012, 10:16 AM

True.

TBC is just being stubborn.

TheBlackChidori · 02-15-2012, 09:34 AM

Suigetsu above Juugo, Tenten, and Hidan. Yes?

Wooster · 02-15-2012, 12:00 PM

Not unless you just move Hidan down.

Devils Lawyer · 02-15-2012, 12:08 PM

You know I feel Bee is being underestimated by this list. He could pretty much handle everyone above him up Naruto. I even put money on him being powerful enough to put him against Madara prime.

PuffPuffPanda · 02-15-2012, 12:49 PM

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You know I feel Bee is being underestimated by this list. He could pretty much handle everyone above him up Naruto. I even put money on him being powerful enough to put him against Madara prime.

Bee already proved he's powerless against Nagato using only two paths, and I wouldn't put him past Itachi, although the two could match each other pretty close. Madara is superior to both of those dojutsu users.

Bee's not top tier, but he should be at the highest spot of the next tier right below.

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TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate So I almost feel like Naruto is better than Madara and Hashirama at this point.

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Uchiha Sora Has a Keyblade Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Chillin with Mabel and Waddles in Gravity Falls Posts: 9,683 Rep Power: 14	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Is Darui around V1 A's speed? When they doubleteamed Sasuke, Darui and A both got to Sasuke at the same time. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Just because they can control it doesn't mean they're stronger. Even Sasuke was able to control/restrain Naruto's Kyuubi. I doubt you think he's stronger. THe Kyuubi is just weak to Sharingan and Senju chakra. And apparently, half the Kyuubi is enough to overpower 5 other full Bijuu when used in conjunction with Naruto's power. I think they both play a part in that. At this point, it's not impossible to say that Naruto is stronger than half a Kyuubi on Uzumaki/Sage chakra alone. I don't think the Kyuubi alone is stronger than 5 Bijuu, or else they would fear the Kyuubi a lot more. He was able to take out the 3rd Raikage on Sage Chakra alone, who was strong enough to go Toe to Toe with the Hachibi. Kushina had an entire Kyuubi within her. She definitely wasn't stronger than Naruto. He just doesn't have the Yin chakra, meaning no All-Creation for him

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Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,972 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate I think there the degree of control is really important for Tailed Beasts. Clearly the ones controlled by Tobi are nowhere near KB and Naruto's power level. Likewise, Kurama by himself is probably weaker without Naruto. By feats Naruto is better than Hashirama and Tobi now. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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PuffPuffPanda Apprentice Genin Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 147 Rep Power: 3	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate The Sanbi example comes into play as well. Deidara one shot the Sanbi (we know he had low difficulty because he didn't even take off his cloak) but Danzo stated that Yagura was only one of four shinobi in history to completely tame a bijuu. I severely doubt Deidara could one shot a fully cooperative Yagura and Isobu with a C2 fish...

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Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,972 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate True. TBC is just being stubborn. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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TheBlackChidori Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Wherever the Winds of Fate take me. Posts: 14,869 Rep Power: 0	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Suigetsu above Juugo, Tenten, and Hidan. Yes?

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Wooster Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 36,972 Rep Power: 32	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate Not unless you just move Hidan down. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Devils Lawyer Special Jonin Candidate Join Date: May 2011 Location: In the hole Posts: 4,594 Rep Power: 12	Re: Naruto Tier List - Group Debate You know I feel Bee is being underestimated by this list. He could pretty much handle everyone above him up Naruto. I even put money on him being powerful enough to put him against Madara prime.

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