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Old 01-26-2014, 09:20 PM   #1
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Old 01-28-2014, 02:14 PM   #2
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SM Naruto stomps if he has all of his crazy frog summons.
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Naruto no doubt can and will evade his attacks in the 7th gate.
Though I suppose it's a matter of if Naruto has a defense against Asakujaku or Hirudora.
Otherwise, Guy is going to be out of options.
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Gai wins for being a better character than Nardo.
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Basically it is 7th gate Guy vs SM naruto.

Read some threads on it and thought ti might be a good one to see peoples thoughts.
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SM Naruto stomps if he has all of his crazy frog summons.
Frog summons aren't even that good. They suck when it comes to attacking small targets. Every single instance they have attempted to attack small targets has ended in utter failure.
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Lol Pain had the power to reflect a bijuudama laser from kn6. Him countering the toads in no way detracts from their power. Which is immense considering Gamabunta fought the shikaku and Kurama. Two different bijuu. Gai could never counter them. Evade yes but actually defeat them lol no. Even evade is iffy considering the size of Gamabunta water bullets.
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How on Earth does Naruto stomp? I don't see him getting any breathing room to get off his more powerful techniques and even his Rasenshuriken loses to Afternoon Tiger. Gai takes this. Greatest taijutsu user in the entire Narutoverse, top tier in speed and destructiveness as well.
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He'll have breathing room because Guy will be having to fight off three boss sized toads. One of which was able to hold down the 9 tails and 1 tail in battle.
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How on Earth does Naruto stomp? I don't see him getting any breathing room to get off his more powerful techniques and even his Rasenshuriken loses to Afternoon Tiger. Gai takes this. Greatest taijutsu user in the entire Narutoverse, top tier in speed and destructiveness as well.
Lol even if Gai was faster than SM Naruto which he isnt. You do know SM Naruto could just tap Gai in taijutsu and put him down.
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He'll have breathing room because Guy will be having to fight off three boss sized toads. One of which was able to hold down the 9 tails and 1 tail in battle.
This. I mean seriously, how can Gai stand up to the toads? He has no feats of taking out organisms of that size, and caliber.
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Naruto in Sage Mode hasn't been shown to have amazing speed feats, unless he also had Nine Tails Chakra Mode. I doubt he would be able to evade attacks from Guy in 7th gate, he will need something incredible to block or lessen te extent of damage from Hirudora.
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Naruto never summoned the 3 toads or Ma and Pa. Ma summoned them there. So that doesn't count.
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Naruto can summon Gamabunta though, so doesn't even matter, considering Guy can't even take down one. Plus, can't Naruto summon Ma and Pa?
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Naruto in Sage Mode hasn't been shown to have amazing speed feats, unless he also had Nine Tails Chakra Mode. I doubt he would be able to evade attacks from Guy in 7th gate, he will need something incredible to block or lessen te extent of damage from Hirudora.
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This. I mean seriously, how can Gai stand up to the toads? He has no feats of taking out organisms of that size, and caliber.
Actually, I think Hirudora could just do it for Gamabunta.
Although it's not Gamabunta who's the problem. It's Naruto with his rasenshuriken and Ma and Pa summons if he chooses to summon them.
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I'd call dodging the 3RK an amazing speed feat.



Actually, I think Hirudora could just do it for Gamabunta.
Although it's not Gamabunta who's the problem. It's Naruto with his rasenshuriken and Ma and Pa summons if he chooses to summon them.
Ok, though one question: How many times can Guy preform Hirudora?
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1.) SM Naruto's best speed feat was blitzing Naraka Path as it tried to take down Tsunade. Other than that every other feat that people are claiming as speed were all reaction feats due to SM precognition.

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Umm he went toe to toe with the Rokubi, remember that? He also took out a giant wave of sharks just as tall as Gamabunta and about 5 times wider. And Tobi hasn't even been fighting summons just evading them and fighting shinobi instead. Gai is fast enough that he can do the same thing

Is it that time again? Where a character gets sidelined for a bit and everyone forgets how monstrous they really are. It's happened with Sasori, Deidara, and Kisame does it really need to happen to Gai. This man has proven he's an absolute monster. He's got the strength to 1 shot Naruto at any given moment without any techniques.

Out of Kakashi, Naruto, and Gai the person who performed best up close to Tobi was undoubtedly Gai, he countered every move perfectly. Naruto was inches away from getting warped multiple times, Tobi went out of his way to avoid Gai and get as close to Naruto as possible.

Naruto's Frog Katas won't work against Gai's style. He won't just barely dodge the punch like Preta Path he would completely avoid it. He's demonstrated the battle prowess and intuition to know when to approach an opponent carefully and when an attack is dangerous. On top of that if he were to use his nunchaku his reach would be longer and he could attack from multiple directions.
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Naruto can summon Gamabunta though, so doesn't even matter, considering Guy can't even take down one. Plus, can't Naruto summon Ma and Pa?


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Actually, I think Hirudora could just do it for Gamabunta.
Although it's not Gamabunta who's the problem. It's Naruto with his rasenshuriken and Ma and Pa summons if he chooses to summon them.
He never summoned them before. With Pain, Ma was there and she summoned them. She was 'grocery shopping' when it all happened and summoned the 3 big toads with little boss toad and pa and Naruto via reverse summoning.

Unless you can show me a scan of him summoning them, it can't happen. Sorry. :/
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He never summoned them before. With Pain, Ma was there and she summoned them. She was 'grocery shopping' when it all happened and summoned the 3 big toads with little boss toad and pa and Naruto via reverse summoning.

Unless you can show me a scan of him summoning them, it can't happen. Sorry. :/
I disagree with this logic. While I don't think he can summon all the boss toads and Ma and Pa at once, the nature of the summoning contract allows him to summon them, just like they can reverse summon him. I think I had this debate a LONG time ago but the way the contract was explained in the manga gives Naruto access to all the toads that he knows about provided he has enough chakra and chakra control to summon them. That means once he learned about Ma and Pa's existence and how to control large amounts of chakra they are at his disposal.
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I disagree with this logic. While I don't think he can summon all the boss toads and Ma and Pa at once, the nature of the summoning contract allows him to summon them, just like they can reverse summon him. I think I had this debate a LONG time ago but the way the contract was explained in the manga gives Naruto access to all the toads that he knows about provided he has enough chakra and chakra control to summon them. That means once he learned about Ma and Pa's existence and how to control large amounts of chakra they are at his disposal.
You can not say you disagree and not provide fact. This is like saying Minato can go as fast as Naruto can in Kurama mode. Or that Madara can shoot a rocket out or bring people's lives back. He never showed the feat, so therefor he can't. Not logic, but rules. Would this not be similar to the Aang issue? While his avatar mode gives him all incite and abilities, he never showed it. Just like this, he never showed to summon them.
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