Tyrell Vs. Shika

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 11:24 AM

Tyrell and I discuss our debates.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 11:40 AM

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Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 11:45 AM

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tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 11:50 AM

Dude, you mean to tell me that you purposely made this thread, just to lure me in, even after I pwned your ass on the Kakashi vs Deidara thread?

Of course. It's already been explained above bro.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 11:53 AM

Please. If you get me on a decent debate, you'll see.

And yes.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 11:55 AM

Then lets settle this once, and for all. Make a thread.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 11:58 AM

Unfortunately, I have no ideas, but let's move this to the chat section.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 12:00 PM

Alright. Moved the thread and took out the debate. Let's go.
Brainstorming time.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 12:06 PM

Here are a few ideas:

Ichigo vs Luffy

Shikai Ichigo vs Base Naruto

Base Luffy vs Shikai Ichigo

Base Naruto vs Base Luffy

Hidan vs Part 1 Kakashi

Orochimaru vs Sasuke

A vs Orochimaru

A vs Kisame

Are these ideas good enough punk?

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 12:07 PM

Hidan vs. Part 1 Kakashi...I can dig it.
Let's do it.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 12:08 PM

Fine. I got Hidan.

You go first.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 12:09 PM

Restrictions?

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 12:12 PM

This is only Part 1, so no Mangekyo Sharingan and no Kamui.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 12:15 PM

Kakashi takes this.

Hidan's scythe is not going to hit Kakashi. He was able to react to Zabuza who is Sonic-Sonic plus. Not to mention that reaction speed is generally faster than traveling speed.

Hidan just isn't fast enough to keep up with Kakashi.

One swipe of his scythe, he misses, and Kakashi takes off his head with a Lightning Blade. Simple as can be.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Kakashi takes this.

Hidan's scythe is not going to hit Kakashi. He was able to react to Zabuza who is Sonic-Sonic plus. Not to mention that reaction speed is generally faster than traveling speed.
Hidan was able to keep up with Asuma, whom is confirmed Sonic, as well as react to his speed with his own.

Hidan just isn't fast enough to keep up with Kakashi.
Hidan kept up with Kakashi in Part 2. While Kakashi is faster than Hidan, Kakashi hasn't shown any speed feats in Part 1, rather than reacting to Zabuza, whom is only confirmed Sonic.

One swipe of his scythe, he misses, and Kakashi takes off his head with a Lightning Blade. Simple as can be.

Hidan can dodge the Lightning Blade.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 12:25 PM

Oh really? Last time I checked, they didn't engage in much hand to hand combat.

Kakashi is likely supersonic. I was going for the minimal. There's no way that Hidan keeps up with him. Not with Supersonic traveling speed and supersonic+ reactions.

The only reason he was on par with Kakashi was because he was dealing with Kakuzu too. Do you honestly think that he has free movement while he's being pelted with freaking fireballs and wind balls?

He can't dodge it once he has attacked. He'd need time to recover.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Shikamaru Nara

Oh really? Last time I checked, they didn't engage in much hand to hand combat.

Kakashi is likely supersonic. I was going for the minimal.
Give me proof from the Manga that Part 1 Kakashi has shown any Supersonic running speeds.

If you can't provide proof for this claim, then I will come to the conclusion that you are wanking.
There's no way that Hidan keeps up with him. Not with Supersonic traveling speed and supersonic+ reactions.
Give me proof from the Manga that Part 1 Kakashi has shown Supersonic+ reaction speeds.

Moreso, give me proof from the Manga that part 1 Kakashi has shown Supersonic traveling speeds.

I would also like to see calcs, and clear evidence from the Manga of Kakashi ever accomplishing that kind of speed.

If you can't provide proof for either of these claims, then I will come to the conclusion that you are wanking.

The only reason he was on par with Kakashi was because he was dealing with Kakuzu too.
Chapter 335 Page 3
As you can see here, Hidan was able to keep up with Kakashi, without the help of Kakuzu's Five Hearts.
Do you honestly think that he has free movement while he's being pelted with freaking fireballs and wind balls?
Chapter 335 Page 3. Kakashi had free movement, because Kakuzu wasn't using his Five Hearts during the time when Hidan kept up with Kakashi on this page.

He can't dodge it once he has attacked. He'd need time to recover.

Due to Hidan's speed, it will prove to be more difficult for Kakashi to react to Hidan's speed, while using the Raikiri at the same time.

tyrell4life194 · 12-25-2010, 01:00 PM

Well, since Shika absolutely LOST this debate, I guess it's safe to say that I take my victory, and get the hell outta here.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 01:23 PM

Wrong. I was on my PS3.
I'll reply now.

Shikamaru Nara · 12-25-2010, 01:28 PM

It's simple logic. Powerscaling. Zabuza is Sonic. Kakashi was faster by a substancial amount of speed. At least a level up. He's supersonic plus.

Give me calcs that Hidan is "Sonic." Powerscaling is my feat. All you have is baseless claims.

By that time, he was already mangled because of their double attack, or whatever they call it. If he were at full health, we wouldn't have been able to compare them. Kakashi is faster than Hidan, hands down. I just proved it to you.

Further neglect just shows me that you have no knowledge of debating technique.

And the last part is already replied to by my previous points.

12-25-2010, 11:24 AM	#1
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12-25-2010, 11:45 AM	#3
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12-25-2010, 11:50 AM	#4
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Kisame Vs. Gaara Dude, you mean to tell me that you purposely made this thread, just to lure me in, even after I pwned your ass on the Kakashi vs Deidara thread? Of course. It's already been explained above bro.

12-25-2010, 11:53 AM	#5
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Kisame Vs. Gaara Please. If you get me on a decent debate, you'll see. And yes.

12-25-2010, 11:55 AM	#6
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Kisame Vs. Gaara Then lets settle this once, and for all. Make a thread.

12-25-2010, 11:58 AM	#7
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Kisame Vs. Gaara Unfortunately, I have no ideas, but let's move this to the chat section.

12-25-2010, 12:00 PM	#8
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Alright. Moved the thread and took out the debate. Let's go. Brainstorming time.

12-25-2010, 12:06 PM	#9
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Here are a few ideas: Ichigo vs Luffy Shikai Ichigo vs Base Naruto Base Luffy vs Shikai Ichigo Base Naruto vs Base Luffy Hidan vs Part 1 Kakashi Orochimaru vs Sasuke A vs Orochimaru A vs Kisame Are these ideas good enough punk?

12-25-2010, 12:07 PM	#10
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Hidan vs. Part 1 Kakashi...I can dig it. Let's do it.

12-25-2010, 12:08 PM	#11
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Fine. I got Hidan. You go first.

12-25-2010, 12:09 PM	#12
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Restrictions?

12-25-2010, 12:12 PM	#13
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika This is only Part 1, so no Mangekyo Sharingan and no Kamui.

12-25-2010, 12:15 PM	#14
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Kakashi takes this. Hidan's scythe is not going to hit Kakashi. He was able to react to Zabuza who is Sonic-Sonic plus. Not to mention that reaction speed is generally faster than traveling speed. Hidan just isn't fast enough to keep up with Kakashi. One swipe of his scythe, he misses, and Kakashi takes off his head with a Lightning Blade. Simple as can be.

12-25-2010, 12:25 PM	#16
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Oh really? Last time I checked, they didn't engage in much hand to hand combat. Kakashi is likely supersonic. I was going for the minimal. There's no way that Hidan keeps up with him. Not with Supersonic traveling speed and supersonic+ reactions. The only reason he was on par with Kakashi was because he was dealing with Kakuzu too. Do you honestly think that he has free movement while he's being pelted with freaking fireballs and wind balls? He can't dodge it once he has attacked. He'd need time to recover.

12-25-2010, 01:00 PM	#18
tyrell4life194 Banned Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Not of your concern Posts: 4,247 Rep Power: 0	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Well, since Shika absolutely LOST this debate, I guess it's safe to say that I take my victory, and get the hell outta here.

12-25-2010, 01:23 PM	#19
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika Wrong. I was on my PS3. I'll reply now.

12-25-2010, 01:28 PM	#20
Shikamaru Nara busybusybusy Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: New York Posts: 43,933 Rep Power: 42 Awards Showcase Total Awards: 1 Total Points: 4	Re: Tyrell Vs. Shika It's simple logic. Powerscaling. Zabuza is Sonic. Kakashi was faster by a substancial amount of speed. At least a level up. He's supersonic plus. Give me calcs that Hidan is "Sonic." Powerscaling is my feat. All you have is baseless claims. By that time, he was already mangled because of their double attack, or whatever they call it. If he were at full health, we wouldn't have been able to compare them. Kakashi is faster than Hidan, hands down. I just proved it to you. Further neglect just shows me that you have no knowledge of debating technique. And the last part is already replied to by my previous points.

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