TV: Official Pro Wrestling Discussion Thread.

[Jmalenko]

Originally Posted by HokageSoulReaper

I in no way agree with what he did, it was a despicable act, hate it had to end like that, but what he did for wrestling cannot be denied, that's for sure

There's also the theory that the brain damage he had suffered in his career had a part in it, making him lose his mind and all, but the test results to his brain have not been made public that I know of

Theres also a rumor that Kevin Sullivan killed them....

[HokageSoulReaper]

Heard about that, right now only whatever is that's up there knows what really happened, but I don't think Sullivan did it, who knows, you never know, but for now, seems farfetched

[Jmalenko]

Originally Posted by HokageSoulReaper

Heard about that, right now only whatever is that's up there knows what really happened, but I don't think Sullivan did it, who knows, you never know, but for now, seems farfetched

Again....agree to disagree HSR,that to the public's eye and wwe's eyes,Chris Benoit will forever be known as the man that killed his family and himself....wether he did it or not.I hate that Everything that the man did will not ever be told for future generations of fans other then "Oh you dont wanna know about him,he abused drugs,steriods,killed his family,etc etc...."

Oh well thats wrestling for ya.

[HokageSoulReaper]

That's the sad truth, not only of wrestling, but society overall for these kind of things

[HokageSoulReaper]

So Miz beats Rhodes to retain....I think he'll be turned face soon, even if Sin Cara put a mask on Miz, I say either Miz or Cody might be turned...hope it's Miz, Cody needs to stay heel a while longer

Kaniel Bryan new tag champs, match was funny, especially the finale, wonder if ''I'm the Tag Team Champion'' will catch on

Cesaro over Ryder.....obvious, decent short match, though

Orton over Ziggler.....another no surprise, great match, also expect Ziggler to cash in soon, as this type of losses are sorta common lately for the MITB holder before he cashes in

Eve over Layla....decent match, hope Kaitlyn takes the title soon, though, it's obvious Eve set all that up

Sheamus over ADR....expected, nice match, but nothing we haven't seen before, don't mind Sheamus gets such a dominant title run, but make it so going to big matches he's in danger to lose!

Cena/Punk...man it was great! Punk coming in with Yankees style pinstripes, and most fans still supported him! Great match, Punk doing a Muta Lock and Cena doing an outside dive made me mark out, and wasn't expecting that ending at all, but WWE did the right call, a draw, Cena still looked strong, and Punk retained!

[HokageSoulReaper]

So WWE tries everything the can to get Punk booed, even have him finally start lashing at fans in promos, yet people still cheer him....Punk himself accepted to go heel since, in his own words, ''he would never topple Cena as the top face in WWE'', that's why he turned, yet even with that makes no sense in a way, but that's WWE logic

I'm The Tag Team Champions! the newly named Team Hell No (Kane and Bryan, were named like that last Raw) are helping revive the tag scene, but expect to see the belts go to Prime Time Players and/or Rey/Sin Cara soon too

Kelly Kelly got future endearvored,although it was on mutual agreement, and while she denied it, there are heavy rumors Beth Phoenix will also leave, but according to rumors, Beth will retire in October

Also, WWE and Japanese promotion All Japan Pro Wrestling announced they are into a working agreement/partnership, looking to make AJPW a WWE developmental, and also see some talent exchange, as rumors say Big Show would make an appearance in Japan, and legendary Japanese wrestler Keiji Mutoh under his Great Muta persona would appear for WWE, now, while Mutoh is in his 50's, and has dealt with some injuries, the man can still give a great match! Taker/Muta for WM 29, anoyne???

Now, a lil' thing to discuss: Cena is 35 and dealing with nagging injuries, so WWE needs to think now who will be their next top guy, Punk as a heel is out of the question, and while being the perfect choice, he's not what WWE looks for, we all know that....and being that he's in his early 30's, he might not be for long either, other option, and one I bet WWE really likes, Sheamus, thing is, he's also near 35 years old too, so not much left in him...meaning, WWE NEEDS to look now into their younger guys

Now, expect to see Cena on top for some more years, but eventually his body won't take it anymore and will start to break down or he'll go 40, so WWE needs to start getting guys ready for that

I wish WWE would pull the gun on guys like Kofi, Bourne (when he comes back) even Santino, you can try to see where you get with them! there's also Ziggler, who as a face if he catches on could be the man, Antonio Cesaro, Seth Rollins and Kassius Ohno in FCW/NXT, the talent is there, WWE just has to go with it

[Jmalenko]

As much as Taker/Muta would be a great match HSR,you gotta take Muta's age into play...seein as your playing the age card with Cena.

Muta is/was great dont get me wrong,his legacy speaks for itself but be realistic....Muta/Taker in there prime would b a better draw then with them past there primes...

Again not trying to start anything but you need to be realistic dude,Even with Cena....If they keep goin like they did with Edge and there body tells them Stop,then they'll get out if and when there ready,You cant just snap off the switch and say "Im Done with the buisness" cause if you love something or passionite about something like sports or what have you,Its kinda hard to not start it back up again.....A friend of mine has had numerous surgeries on his knee and has retired more times then i can count but he's always come back cause he loves the buisness.

Again im just sayin my peace.

[HokageSoulReaper]

It is true, Mutoh's in his 50's, and while he still performs quite great, it would never be the same, I mean, I mention it due to just seeing Taker/Muta happening, also Taker, while in his late 40's, not only is nearing 50, his injuries don't allow him to perform to the level he wants, which brings to mind Lou Thesz having his last match against Masahiro Chono in 1990 at age 74, age didn't let Thesz perform to what I bet the level he wanted, but for a 74 year old man? he did ok

I've seen that many guys, despite age and/or injuries, just can't stop until their life is at stake, it is when most step away, like em or not, look at a guy like Terry Funk, he's still going at it, most think he's in for the money, but I think its because he loves what he does....and he's crazy too lol

[Jmalenko]

Originally Posted by HokageSoulReaper

It is true, Mutoh's in his 50's, and while he still performs quite great, it would never be the same, I mean, I mention it due to just seeing Taker/Muta happening, also Taker, while in his late 40's, not only is nearing 50, his injuries don't allow him to perform to the level he wants, which brings to mind Lou Thesz having his last match against Masahiro Chono in 1990 at age 74, age didn't let Thesz perform to what I bet the level he wanted, but for a 74 year old man? he did ok

I've seen that many guys, despite age and/or injuries, just can't stop until their life is at stake, it is when most step away, like em or not, look at a guy like Terry Funk, he's still going at it, most think he's in for the money, but I think its because he loves what he does....and he's crazy too lol

Like you said about Terry,Its a love for the buisness,And you have Flair,Hogan....ok granted,both of them have to pay money to there exes but you have Funk,Flair,Hogan,Foley.....Alot of times they can say "im done with this" but once your in it and have left,your never really gone from it.

For me,Ive graduated High School in 04 and my years there were in marching band....its been 8 years since i left it but i still get drawn back there cause it was the greatest time in my life....and there have been times where ive done the same with reffin wrestling in my neck of the woods but i'll never fully leave cause i still have a love for the buisness and the experiences that come with it.Its not everyday that i got to meet like Tommy Dreamer,Raven/get to ref a Rock N Roll Express and Jerry Lynn match.....Heck that comes with the experiences that youd think would never happen.

[HokageSoulReaper]

Exactly, I don't think Foley needs that much cash, he's in it because he loves it, Flair and Hogan might be looking for money, but I'll be damned if anyone doubts the love they have for this

Hogan became rich during his stint in WWE in the 80's and 90's, he didn't needed to go to WCW in 1994 to get money, deep down, he did it because he couldn't step away from it, money was the frosting on the cake I'd say

[Jmalenko]

Hogan went to WCW among other reasons cause it was a fresh audience down in Atlanta or the south instead of WWE in the North,but its whatever that floats there boat....seein as Hogan was shooting Thunder in Paradise at that time before joining WCW

[HokageSoulReaper]

Yeah, I know, it was many things, but I think the main reason was his love for the sport, sure there was money, easier schedules and all that, but he could have stayed retired and live well, but he saw a challenge in the fact that he has never performed to those south audiences indeed

In other news, Daivari saved some train passengers from possible death in his native Minneapolis:

http://www.wwe.com/inside/overtherop...vari-interview

Then again, could be an angle

[Jmalenko]

Doubt theyd put something like that on there as an angle....

[HokageSoulReaper]

Hope not, but since he spoke with TMZ too, there have been rumors WWE wants now to integrate stuff published in TMZ for the storylines, can't help but doubt a bit

Still, awesome he was able to help those people

[Jmalenko]

Thats why they call them Rumors....believe it or not its your call....me i could care less.

still awesome though

[HokageSoulReaper]

Yeah, if true it is pretty low, though

[Jmalenko]

Oh well....WWE stars do have lives outside of the ring so....doesnt surprise me that they do something like that.

[HokageSoulReaper]

Oh I know, but it is quite twisted if indeed the company were to resort to such tactics, doesn't surprise me either, but doesn't take its twisted

[moonwatcher]

Watched the main event yesturday. Meh.. it was alright.

This is my favorite right now! Rawr P:

Spoiler:

Picture taken and owned by raspy :3

[HokageSoulReaper]

For a WWE show it was, haven't seen it myself yet, but I've read some good things about the Sheamus/Punk match and its buildup in the show

Now, supposedly WWE was trying to get Jericho back, but negotiations fell through due to mainly Jericho wanting to be able to take breaks to tour, but he was willing to to do full schedules in cycles whenever he was not touring, but WWE wanted him full time.....ironic that Brock Lesnar gets more money for very few appearances, but WWE can't let Jericho have some control of his outside life sort to speak

Similar with Edge, he got offered a Legends deal, but he has said no unless he gets the flexibility that guys in Legends deal like Shawn Michaels have....yet WWE don't wanna give him that...still both sides are on good terms as of now, though

Nice pic, ''Burn in My Light'' Legend Killer Randy Orton-era, right?

and, here's something I think some of ya might find interesting: