I think I've Figured Out Madara! *spoilers*

[SageNaruto69]

that is right

[sasu_girl]

wonderfuly thought-out.*claps*bravo.

[Hinata-chan]

lol how could i have not noticed that

[Kizomaru Yukimoto]

COUGH ! I think soo tooo ! .. Um I figured this out 2 months ago. Isnt that chapter old now ?

[KARINISSOSEXY]

Originally Posted by x__sasuke__x

he doesn't need them because he put *spoilers* in the title.

thank you!!

[Katani Uchiha]

I've always thought that! That is a very good theory! I never trusted Madara from the start. >.< Argh! Go Sasuke! Go Naruto! Kick his sorry, lieing self up!! x3

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by KARINISSOSEXY

When Madara was having a convo with sasuke about who he is and the history of why Itachi destroyed the village I remember distictly about him telling sasuke that the Nine-Tailed Fox attacking 16 years ago was purely a coincidence. But then when the fourth was talking to naruto, he said that Madara WAS behind it. I think he lied to Sasuke so he would go after the elders because he holds a grudge against them - they cast him out of the village. And if sasuke knew the truth, He would've killed Tobi/Madara. Maybe this was obvious, but what do you think?

Spoiler:

So many flaws in this.

• Itachi never destoryed any village
• Madara called apond the Nine-tailed fox and controlled it with his MS
• Madara called apon the Nine-tailed fox because he didn't get the title of Hokage. When he didn't become Hokage he became roughd and attacked the leaf
• I don't even think Madara said it was purely a coincidence
• Madara says he has no reason to lie (and yet he probaly does lie), and why would he lie to Sasuke about the Nine-tail attac when Sasuke all ready knew about that.
• Madara cast him self after not getting to be Hokage
• Sasuke still wants to kill Madara even though he is working with Madara
• Minato did say that Madara was behind it and all of that junk, but to only let out the info that was all ready 'known'

-Madara is not figured out in what you had said. Most of this isn't even 'need to know'
-It looks like you just put facts to gether to fit what you need.
~Madara can ever be trusted. Sasuke doen't even trust him and Sasuke is the closest to Madara.



+ I know I sound like a huge jerk but just pointing the facts out.

[KARINISSOSEXY]

Spoiler:

Originally Posted by zerosameri

Spoiler:

So many flaws in this.

• Itachi never destoryed any village
• Madara called apond the Nine-tailed fox and controlled it with his MS
• Madara called apon the Nine-tailed fox because he didn't get the title of Hokage. When he didn't become Hokage he became roughd and attacked the leaf
• I don't even think Madara said it was purely a coincidence
• Madara says he has no reason to lie (and yet he probaly does lie), and why would he lie to Sasuke about the Nine-tail attac when Sasuke all ready knew about that.
• Madara cast him self after not getting to be Hokage
• Sasuke still wants to kill Madara even though he is working with Madara
• Minato did say that Madara was behind it and all of that junk, but to only let out the info that was all ready 'known'

-Madara is not figured out in what you had said. Most of this isn't even 'need to know'

-It looks like you just put facts to gether to fit what you need.
~Madara can ever be trusted. Sasuke doen't even trust him and Sasuke is the closest to Madara.



+ I know I sound like a huge jerk but just pointing the facts out.

-Alright calm down you little bugger. Itachi destroyed their clan, and the secluded area which is basically the Uchiha "Village".
Common sense.

-I realize madara used his MS to control Kyuubi. That was my WHOLE POINT.

-Read your manga before you correct me. He DID say is was purely a coincedence. Chapter 399: How It All Began.
Madara:"Time passed, the leadership stayed in Senju's hands...and the once proud Uchiha clan was reduced to being Senju's Lackeys. It was just as I feared. And then a certain other incident sealed Uchiha's figurative demise. That's right, the reappearance of the nine tailed fox 16 years ago. Only Uchiha ocular powers can tame and control Nine Tails. The Konoha elders surmised that the incident was the doing of Uchiha. But it was a spontaneously generated Natural disaster, completely unrelated with Uchiha."
and then Itachi told him otherwise.

-He does have reason to lie. He was stacking up reasons for why the elders of Konoha are bad to Uchiha. First he says they're biased, and then he told him the drove them into a corner, he told him they were senju's lackeys, then he said that they were blamed for a crime that they were supposedly innocent of, when really they were guilty, and told him he was driven out of the village, basically for being an Uchiha.
He told Sasuke those things SO that he'll go and destroy Konoha and the elders. Sasuke is Madara's tool for such a task. Why go through the trouble of destroying a village when you have a twisted blinded fool who can do it for you? That's what I always say. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. That's why he lied.

-Madara left the village himself true, but only because the village elders, Hashirama, and his clan shunned him for trying to rekindle war.
If you look past all the bad crap that happened to Madara you can plainly see that it was all his fault.

-Madara L-I-E-D.

-Sasuke has no business with Madara, at least not to his own knowledge. At least not until some of the latest chapters, which I dont know if you read so i'm not going into that.

It was my theory that I had to write and share, so it is need to know. Study my theory before you make me go to the trouble of explaining it...

[9tail]

but one thing is still bugging me if tobi made the akasuki why did he just now join...HAHAHA
also why would itatchi otherwise put the ms in saskue when he cared so much (madaras version)to keep him from the truth (supposed itatchis) or to keep lies away

[shikamarulover18]

well i'm sure madara just bends the truth to get what he wants from sasuke. it's sasuke's fault for being naive enough to believe everything he hears from a 120-something year old man wearing a swirly mask. i mean it's not like it's a new thing for madara to lie people for his own personal gain. take nagato, for example.

i think madara was behind the attack. minato just seems like a more trustworthy person than madara soo i would believe what he has to say first. but, either way, in the end, madara definitely seems to have an agenda that involves manipulating people. also, i don't think sasuke would be able to defeat madara even if he did find out he was lying.

[9tail]

well consider he died useing reaper death seal for his village i say yea he is a more trustworthy guy

[NarutoReader]

1. sasuke cant kill madara, sasuke cant kill anyone. he is not THAT strong like his fans like to think. anyway i cant picture anyone kill madara.
2. madara is a manipulative bastard (and also my favorite bad guy), it was kinda obvious he lied. i think itachi said to sasuke that he shouldnt believe what madara says.

[zerosameri]

Originally Posted by KARINISSOSEXY

Spoiler:

-Alright calm down you little bugger. Itachi destroyed their clan, and the secluded area which is basically the Uchiha "Village".
Common sense.

-I realize madara used his MS to control Kyuubi. That was my WHOLE POINT.

-Read your manga before you correct me. He DID say is was purely a coincedence. Chapter 399: How It All Began.
Madara:"Time passed, the leadership stayed in Senju's hands...and the once proud Uchiha clan was reduced to being Senju's Lackeys. It was just as I feared. And then a certain other incident sealed Uchiha's figurative demise. That's right, the reappearance of the nine tailed fox 16 years ago. Only Uchiha ocular powers can tame and control Nine Tails. The Konoha elders surmised that the incident was the doing of Uchiha. But it was a spontaneously generated Natural disaster, completely unrelated with Uchiha."
and then Itachi told him otherwise.

-He does have reason to lie. He was stacking up reasons for why the elders of Konoha are bad to Uchiha. First he says they're biased, and then he told him the drove them into a corner, he told him they were senju's lackeys, then he said that they were blamed for a crime that they were supposedly innocent of, when really they were guilty, and told him he was driven out of the village, basically for being an Uchiha.
He told Sasuke those things SO that he'll go and destroy Konoha and the elders. Sasuke is Madara's tool for such a task. Why go through the trouble of destroying a village when you have a twisted blinded fool who can do it for you? That's what I always say. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that. That's why he lied.

-Madara left the village himself true, but only because the village elders, Hashirama, and his clan shunned him for trying to rekindle war.
If you look past all the bad crap that happened to Madara you can plainly see that it was all his fault.

-Madara L-I-E-D.

-Sasuke has no business with Madara, at least not to his own knowledge. At least not until some of the latest chapters, which I dont know if you read so i'm not going into that.

It was my theory that I had to write and share, so it is need to know. Study my theory before you make me go to the trouble of explaining it...

Spoiler:

-The uchiha's doesn't have a 'village'....... It's a clan and a reather big one at the matter.... The Huga's have the same deal has the uchiha's....

-Sasuke all ready knew that what Madara said about the 9-tailed fox was a lie

-So what if Madara told sasuke though things... he was all ready going to kill them. Then he had more reason to kill them after he found out the truth.

-Madara trying to start a war. he did start the war. After it was over he was consider dead, but some how left and wasn't really dead.

-I get the point, Madara lies.

-I read all the up-to-date manga. Sasuke does know that he has business with Madara.


You never had to write and share it. It was your chose to do this. I do not have to study your theory, and you didn't have to respond to what I wrote nor did you had to give me a cruddy explaination either

[titanscsj]

yea i knew about it plus you cant really trust madara hes not exactly a good guy lol

[Chiku]

just figgured that out?? ive known that for a long time

[jhokage613]

Originally Posted by KARINISSOSEXY

When Madara was having a convo with sasuke about who he is and the history of why Itachi destroyed the village I remember distictly about him telling sasuke that the Nine-Tailed Fox attacking 16 years ago was purely a coincidence. But then when the fourth was talking to naruto, he said that Madara WAS behind it. I think he lied to Sasuke so he would go after the elders because he holds a grudge against them - they cast him out of the village. And if sasuke knew the truth, He would've killed Tobi/Madara. Maybe this was obvious, but what do you think?

I totally agree with you! you hit it right on!!!!!!!! thats exacly what I think madaras up to with that situation!

[KARINISSOSEXY]

Originally Posted by NarutoReader

1. sasuke cant kill madara, sasuke cant kill anyone. he is not THAT strong like his fans like to think. anyway i cant picture anyone kill madara.
2. madara is a manipulative bastard (and also my favorite bad guy), it was kinda obvious he lied. i think itachi said to sasuke that he shouldnt believe what madara says.

......sasuke can't kill anyone?
Are you joking? Sasuke's a friggin' mad powerhouse. Did you see how he held his own against Bee? The only reason he's alive is because he ran. They'd have killed eachother. And he killed Deidara.

[assassin]

Originally Posted by KARINISSOSEXY

When Madara was having a convo with sasuke about who he is and the history of why Itachi destroyed the village I remember distictly about him telling sasuke that the Nine-Tailed Fox attacking 16 years ago was purely a coincidence. But then when the fourth was talking to naruto, he said that Madara WAS behind it. I think he lied to Sasuke so he would go after the elders because he holds a grudge against them - they cast him out of the village. And if sasuke knew the truth, He would've killed Tobi/Madara. Maybe this was obvious, but what do you think?

you should change the phrase 'destroyed the village' to 'destroyed the uchiha clan'

and it makes sense that Madara lied what else would he do?

[KARINISSOSEXY]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

1)Itachi did not destroy the village it was the Uchiha clan. He killed them all but Sasuke.
2)I don't remeber that
3)Minato did not say that he said "The one behind the mask... He is the one from 16 years ago"
4)He does hold a grudge against them for what they did.

1) That's what I meant.
2) It's not MY fault you don't remember. Read the MANGA!!
3) WHATEVER!! The one behind the mask IS MADARA!! Does it make any difference?!!!!
4) Alright then.

[KARINISSOSEXY]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

Spoiler:

-The uchiha's doesn't have a 'village'....... It's a clan and a reather big one at the matter.... The Huga's have the same deal has the uchiha's....

-Sasuke all ready knew that what Madara said about the 9-tailed fox was a lie

-So what if Madara told sasuke though things... he was all ready going to kill them. Then he had more reason to kill them after he found out the truth.

-Madara trying to start a war. he did start the war. After it was over he was consider dead, but some how left and wasn't really dead.

-I get the point, Madara lies.

-I read all the up-to-date manga. Sasuke does know that he has business with Madara.


You never had to write and share it. It was your chose to do this. I do not have to study your theory, and you didn't have to respond to what I wrote nor did you had to give me a cruddy explaination either

-DUDE !! I JUST TOLD YOU! THE SUCLUDED AREA UCHIHA IS IN!! THEY CONSIDERED IT A VILLAGE!!!!! The Hyuga's have nothing to do w/ this conversation; that was really irrelevant.

-No he didn't know that. I just told you. How would he have found out anyway? No one told him. Did you see Sasuke's reaction to him when he told that they were driven from the village UNFAIRLY?! Unfairly = Wasn't their fault. (About the Ninetails.) So he believed him.

-SASUKE'S ONLY GOAL IN LIFE WAS TO KILL "HIM" (In his own words.)
He only wanted to kill Itachi. From the very first chapter he was inrtoduced in. When he killed Itachi he felt empty. He had NO idea what he was going to do. He was going to *MAYBE* return to Konoha. Here comes the mighty Madara, when he says to sasuke "Oh, hey Sasuke, you know you killed Itachi for no reason. Your brother really loved you and your whole clan and was forced to become a murderer by the leaf."
THAT'S when he wanted to destroy Konoha. I would kill them too. Why would he kill the elders if he didn't have a reason to? He didn't before Madara told him the "TRUTH".


-....What?
DON'T PISS ME OFF.

1) I know I didn't have to post this thread. You didn't have to come on it.
2) It's alright to correct people's theories, but don't be an ass about it.
3) Crappy answer? Your joking. This is where you piss me off. I read up on my answer FOR you. I found the page FOR you, and just because it turned out I was right and I even got the page number, you don't have to act like a jack-off. YOU didn't have to respond.

How old are you anyway? You know nothing. Why am I having this debate?