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Old 02-04-2011, 10:00 PM   #81
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I really don't think Sasuke is evil. I just understand the pain he's going through and all he's lost. It's just that selfish people like the people in the leaf who've never lost anything, think he's selfish. Like he said though, let me kill everyone you love and we'll see how you feel after. No Naruto can't let that happen, got to protect them, but that's how Sasuke feels, why couldn't anyone protect him? I seriously can't wait until Neflix and Sephrimmedia.com start streaming this anime. This is my favorite anime next to DBZ.
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Old 02-05-2011, 11:32 PM   #82
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everyone likes to root for the good guy and boo the bad guy, and people dislike sasuke for his attitude toward the given situations but haven't all of you had a bad day that progressively got worse into a bad week? And you just seemed to vent it out on someone or something? Take that emotion and magnify it to a level of clan/family deaths, and mental anguish, his actions aren't unreasonable he's one of only people achieving his goals and improving himself (without basically having things handed to him like it seems narutos trainings chalk up to be)
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everyone likes to root for the good guy and boo the bad guy, and people dislike sasuke for his attitude toward the given situations but haven't all of you had a bad day that progressively got worse into a bad week? And you just seemed to vent it out on someone or something? Take that emotion and magnify it to a level of clan/family deaths, and mental anguish, his actions aren't unreasonable he's one of only people achieving his goals and improving himself (without basically having things handed to him like it seems narutos trainings chalk up to be)
Well yeah I understand that, and Sasuke's actions are reasonable for his mindset and what happened to him but that doesn't make them good and you can't deny that he's fallen "into the darkness"; he admitted it himself and even Gaara was able to detect it.

Naruto actually trained to get his power ups while Sasuke got them handed to him on a silver platter. Let's see Orochimaru gives him the Curse Mark, Itachi helps give him the Mangekyo Sharingan, and he randomly gets a hawk summon that even Madara questioned. He also randomly powers up mid fight.
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Old 02-06-2011, 10:05 AM   #84
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Yea, like Kuromaki is saying, while Sasuke may have had some reason to start down a dark path, he has taken it way too far. Yeah sure he had a pretty hard life, but he could have chosen to take a better path to avenge his clan, not to dishonor its name. Even after he left the leaf and was with Orochimaru, he would never kill anyone. and yet later on here he is saying that he wants to kill everyone in the leaf after he found out about his brother's sacrifice. Instead of honoring his brother, he throws away Itachi's will of fire for revenge.

If he wants to kill everyone in the leaf then he would be killing all the people there who are not even ninja, his former comrades, teachers, women and even children. Also his attack on the Kage summit, he starts to kill all the guards that are there. When he fights Danzo, he even goes as far as to try to kill Karin after she is taken hostage. If that is not evil then I don't know what is.
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So you simply dislike him because he's taken a darker path? And Sasuke did have the curse seal given to him, but it traded up for the mangekyo sharingan which he almost lost his life for, it makes more sense then naruto magical ability to train 10x faster with clones, and gaining sage mode in what like a couple days because of his clones? At least it took sasuke 2 years of hard work to get where he was at, then naruto accomplishes it in like a week or so. At least sasuke's usage of his eyes has a negative side effect of blurring his vision permanently until he goes blind unlike good ol naruto who can just fox mode all the time without any serious side effects, sure they say the fox could overpower him and take over his body but you and I both know that will never happen else you'd lose your main hero of the show

I like sasuke because he's at least put more effort and hard work into getting where he was at, Naruto's only huge accomplishments without the use of the fox (mostly) is his fight against Pain, and Gaara before hte 2 year jump, sasuke has done so much more than that. Sure he has a darker attitude but he's still a better character in skill and execution.

Side note: I thought it was awesome sasuke crashed the kage party, naruto coulda never done that :P Come on ya gotta give him some credit he's ballsy
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Hold up I never said I disliked him, but you just can't deny the facts. He fell into the darkness and he said it himself. Madara might be controlling him but until that's proven, those are his choices.

Clones transfer experience and because of the kyubi chakra, Naruto can make a ton of them, so he gains a lot of experience quickly. If anything, the one thing that's been handed to him is the Kyubi. He's been working hard all his life. He's also trying to master the current kyubi mode without clones, which takes a considerable amount of work. Sasuke's only drawbacks are his failing eyes and even that got fixed.

Anyway we shouldn't be debating on that since that's not the focus of this thread.
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Old 02-06-2011, 02:35 PM   #87
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i read the manga up to chapter 485, i was first shocked by how bad Sasuke turned to be he tried to kill karin and Sakura. he is turning really ugly
but i dont think he is really evil . but i will think about him as a child who was treated badly, you know how angry the child gets when someone crush his toy.

if he can cry to the shoulder of someone who loves him, if he can accept what happened and go on, he would lose all his hate and all his desires to destroy
i mean after all he is not really bad inside.
Maybe.....but he is super emo and has taken things waaaay to far.
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So you simply dislike him because he's taken a darker path? And Sasuke did have the curse seal given to him, but it traded up for the mangekyo sharingan which he almost lost his life for, it makes more sense then naruto magical ability to train 10x faster with clones, and gaining sage mode in what like a couple days because of his clones? At least it took sasuke 2 years of hard work to get where he was at, then naruto accomplishes it in like a week or so. At least sasuke's usage of his eyes has a negative side effect of blurring his vision permanently until he goes blind unlike good ol naruto who can just fox mode all the time without any serious side effects, sure they say the fox could overpower him and take over his body but you and I both know that will never happen else you'd lose your main hero of the show

I like sasuke because he's at least put more effort and hard work into getting where he was at, Naruto's only huge accomplishments without the use of the fox (mostly) is his fight against Pain, and Gaara before hte 2 year jump, sasuke has done so much more than that. Sure he has a darker attitude but he's still a better character in skill and execution.

Side note: I thought it was awesome sasuke crashed the kage party, naruto coulda never done that :P Come on ya gotta give him some credit he's ballsy

Ok many things wrong with this. Sasuke was always good at things. From a very early age he was quite good. He even master fire style jutsu at a younger age then Itachi. Naruto on the other hand had to struggle for most of his childhood to get even alittle better. Plus in relation to Naruto's use of the nine tails chakra, it does actually damage him and shortens his lifespan. With Sasuke, sure he can go blind which he almost has, but now he just took Itachi's eyes so he now has EMS.

With Sasuke attack on the Kage Summit, it may have been intereasting to see, but had ALL the kages been there to fight him head on, he would have died for sure. Even Madara didn't fully know what Sasuke was going to do.
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ii think you are right, buut he has too much pride so ii feel that he won't change 'cause this has went on too long and he doesn't seem like the type of person to admit defeat easily
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I understand why sasuke is doing what he is doing cause here is my view on it had sasuke returned to konoha after itachi died never knowing the truth about his clans massacre or about itachi's past and the villagers looked at him as a hero it would not have changed anything danzo homura and koharu were still alive and with the 3rd and itachi dead what would stop them from trying to kill sasuke despite what the villagers thought of him and even if they didn't sasuke would have become a slave to the senju something his father wanted to avoid
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After trying to kill his teammates and former teammates and hearing him talk about vengeance. I'd say Sasuke is so evil he maybe eviler than Orochimaru. Although I do understand him. He's just going through a tough time. If he could just clear his mind and be reasoned with. He could change his ways.

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After trying to kill his teammates and former teammates and hearing him talk about vengeance. I'd say Sasuke is so evil he maybe eviler than Orochimaru. Although I do understand him. He's just going through a tough time. If he could just clear his mind and be reasoned with. He could change his ways.
very close to what i am saying, thank you.
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you cant just get over something like that! if what happened to sasuke happened to me i id be an avenger too! and if anyone watches supernatural i remember sam saying something like "sometimes spirits are like wounded animals they lash out because theyre hurt." when i first heard that thought of sasuke and madara is screwing with his head (really hate that sob!) sasuke isnt evil hes just been though hell.
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you cant just get over something like that! if what happened to sasuke happened to me i id be an avenger too! and if anyone watches supernatural i remember sam saying something like "sometimes spirits are like wounded animals they lash out because theyre hurt." when i first heard that thought of sasuke and madara is screwing with his head (really hate that sob!) sasuke isnt evil hes just been though hell.
Many characters in the anime have gone through hell, but you dont see any of them going all crazy psycho on everyone else.
(I am a fan of Sasuke but saying he isn't evil is a lie at this point)
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he's not evil, or intentionally trying to be. he has gone a little crazy after itachi died and madara told him the truth. it would be hard to lose everyone and very hard to move on but what its been like 7 years.
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Many characters in the anime have gone through hell, but you dont see any of them going all crazy psycho on everyone else.
(I am a fan of Sasuke but saying he isn't evil is a lie at this point)

yeah i agree i mean itachi is the one who had to actually kill the clan and had to live with the burden of lieing and being hated. when it is really hard for him to hurt people. he never went on a rampage, and doesnt want to destroy the village, wants to protect it. sasuke is kinda killing everything that itachi did in his life and doesnt realize it
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Sasuke's evil, he acts on his own and he only wishes to kill, he's a madman
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Sasuke is evil, because he has hatred in his heart. But, that is not entirely his fault. Though you cannot justify his actions, atleast undertand why he is doing them. Through his eyes, his actions are justified. You should have sympathy for someone who was pushed into darkness.

And btw, I can't stand people who hate characters. You can hate him as a person, but please don't hate him as a character. If you like Naruto than you should like Sasuke, because Naruto wouldn't be near as strong as he is now if Sasuke never existed.
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After Itachi died, he can definitely be considered evil considering he wants to destroy Konoha. Had he just wanted to kill the elders and Danzo, I'd say he'd still be neutral, although I wouldn't agree with his methods. But he said he'd kill every last person, down to the women and children to "make Konoha pay". That's pretty evil to me.
Has he actually tried to destroy the villagers yet though? I wouldn't be surprised if those were empty words that he used to make Madara believe he was on his side.


By the way, Naruto has said several times that he WILL bring him back. So, I believe something will happen that will bring him back.
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Has he actually tried to destroy the villagers yet though? I wouldn't be surprised if those were empty words that he used to make Madara believe he was on his side.


By the way, Naruto has said several times that he WILL bring him back. So, I believe something will happen that will bring him back.
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