ki vs haki vs chakra vs spirit energy

[Kill3r_B-st]

basically dbz vs one piece vs naruto vs yu yu hakusho but just their energies. which one is stronger or more effective or plain and simply better all around. only hold back is no planet busting ki just maybe goku ki level as of arriving on namek or saiyan saga ki level just no planet busting.

[junchurikioftheleaf]

well energy on there own really cant do much so....tie?

[NBT]

[cnorwood]

nappa country busted, and piccolo moon busted. no other source of energy has done that

[tyrell4life194]

Ki is the most devestating of the 4.

[Nyruss]

Haki ain't the same thing as chakra and spirit energy and what have you.

[tyrell4life194]

Who are you talking to? Me, or the creator of this thread? The only thing I said was Ki is the most devestating.

[Nyruss]

Thread creator.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

Haki ain't the same thing as chakra and spirit energy and what have you.

Same here is why. A form of energy yep. People can train and use it yep. Users gain enhanced powers when used yep. All of them have these traits in common. So how is it not equal?

[tyrell4life194]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

Thread creator.

Oh ok.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

Same here is why. A form of energy yep. People can train and use it yep. Users gain enhanced powers when used yep. All of them have these traits in common. So how is it not equal?

every being in their verse has chakra, ki, reiatsu, or some sort of spirit energy or yoki. but you have to learn haki

[Devil's Lawyer]

People may have chakra but they have to learn to use it . People have ki but they have to learn to use it. Reiatsu is the same. Also everybody may be capable of using thise energy doesn't mean they can. Haki is a energy that alot of people has learned in one piece verse. Look at the amazon, the priest of sky Island, Admirals etc. There is no real difference except the use. All of them have different uses in their verse.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

People may have chakra but they have to learn to use it . People have ki but they have to learn to use it. Reiatsu is the same. Also everybody may be capable of using thise energy doesn't mean they can. Haki is a energy that alot of people has learned in one piece verse. Look at the amazon, the priest of sky Island, Admirals etc. There is no real difference except the use. All of them have different uses in their verse.

again you arent born with it like you are with in their respective verses, haki is a technique, like the kamehameha, or the spirit gun, no body is born being able produce, they have to learn

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

again you arent born with it like you are with in their respective verses, haki is a technique, like the kamehameha, or the spirit gun, no body is born being able produce, they have to learn

That little girl in skypiea with the red hair, Luffy, Hancock, Eneru all born users of it. Its not just a fighting technique. Yes people are born with it. No they don't have to learn to use it. Hence the little girl using it without control of it. Ichigo situation was similiar hence him seeing ghosts in the begining.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

That little girl in skypiea with the red hair, Luffy, Hancock, Eneru all born users of it. Its not just a fighting technique. Yes people are born with it. No they don't have to learn to use it. Hence the little girl using it without control of it. Ichigo situation was similiar hence him seeing ghosts in the begining.

well then they were born with color of observation haki, no body was born with color of arments, so equalizing it wouldnt matter, because no body else in other series has shown to use color of observation

[Nyruss]

There's three different kinds of Haki. That alone sets it apart from chakra.

King's Haki, which is what Luffy and Hancock and a small number of other people have, is not something that just anyone can have, it's only available to certain people.

The other two are Color of Observation(which is what Enel and the little girl used) and Color of Armaments, and anyone can awaken it, but no one is born knowing them, they have to awaken it. This is another difference from chakra, which is a universal energy system that anyone can use at any time as long as they know how to access it.

Furthermore, the three Haki are techniques in and of themselves, while chakra is just fuel for techniques.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by Dudemeister

There's three different kinds of Haki. That alone sets it apart from chakra.

King's Haki, which is what Luffy and Hancock and a small number of other people have, is not something that just anyone can have, it's only available to certain people.

The other two are Color of Observation(which is what Enel and the little girl used) and Color of Armaments, and anyone can awaken it, but no one is born knowing them, they have to awaken it. This is another difference from chakra, which is a universal energy system that anyone can use at any time as long as they know how to access it.

Furthermore, the three Haki are techniques in and of themselves, while chakra is just fuel for techniques.

Haki has the same underlying principle has all the others. It enhances the body just like the rest. Only difference is the outcome of using it. Also no normal human being knows how to use chakra, ki, and reiatsu. Color of observation is just the different categories the energy comes in. So let me ask you a question then. What would kyuubi energy and sage mode be classified in then? By your standards they aren't equal either. Which would be dumb you would be denying alot of stuff. Super saiyan energy would fall in that category too. Energy goes deep in each verse and does not follow the same principles as the others. Yet they are the same. The strengthen the user that is all that matters.

[cnorwood]

Originally Posted by Devil's Lawyer

What would kyuubi energy and sage mode be classified in then? By your standards they aren't equal either.

sage energy isnt the same, but the kyuubi is made of chakra so yes it is the same

[Akatsuki X]

Well Ki obviously has the greatest destructive capabilities considering that DBZ can use it to moon/planet bust etc.

Chakra's greatest feat is the SotSP moon building feat, which we can't be sure is true or not.

Yu Yu spirit energy isn't as strong, but there is such a majority of demons, characters, etc that possess it, that it may have the largest quantity.

[Devil's Lawyer]

Originally Posted by cnorwood

sage energy isnt the same, but the kyuubi is made of chakra so yes it is the same

Ita natural enrergy none the same. It can produce jutsu the same as chakra no diff except its just stronger. What I mean by Haki being the same is it produces the same results as the others. So how is it not equal? Though Haki users don't tire out from using it I guess that another difference.