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Old 11-20-2010, 07:27 PM   #1
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Kabuto has an uneasy feeling especially with his master Orochimaru once an Akatsuki member and left for unknown reasons. After reviving the dead Akatsuki members, Kabuto asked Madara to team up for the war, and it did. However, not everything will be a cakewalk. There's a good chance one of them will betray. Could Kabuto and Madara betray each other sometime in the war?
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Madara is expecting it and his answer for that is: "Sickem' Sasuke."
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:40 PM   #3
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The question isn't really "could they". They're already capable of it. Nor is the question "would they". In a heartbeat, of course. It's not like they haven't already betrayed people before, the both of them.

The real question is "will they"? Will they turn on each other mid-war, or will they stay allied until the end? Kabuto is more likely to betray Madara than Madara is Kabuto, but you never know. The hardest part would really be finding a good time to execute the betrayel, since they already don't trust each other and neither is truly going to give up any secrets unless absolutely necessary.

However, my answer is yes. By the end of this war, one of them will have betrayed the other, and one of them will probably die in the process.
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Old 11-20-2010, 07:42 PM   #4
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I don't know that I would even call it betrayal, they'd have to trust each other first. Neither one of them is stupid and they haven't pledged any real loyalty, they're working together so they can each aid their own personal goals, so when so and so turns on so and so it's not going to surprise anyone, i'm sure they've both already got their plans for nuetralizing each other already.
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Madara probably has a plan when Kabuto does betray him. But of cores he'll take Sasuke before he does. Once KAbuto gets whats he needs he'll most likely try to kill Madara.
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Madara probably has a plan when Kabuto does betray him. But of cores he'll take Sasuke before he does. Once KAbuto gets whats he needs he'll most likely try to kill Madara.
It could happen if Madara tries to kill Kabuto for betrayal. Those two would argue about Sasuke. Boy, that might be epic if Madara and Kabuto talk about betrayal.
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It could happen if Madara tries to kill Kabuto for betrayal. Those two would argue about Sasuke. Boy, that might be epic if Madara and Kabuto talk about betrayal.
That makes senses too. Madara kills Kabuto gets Kabuto jutsu's (some how? XD), then Madara gets Itachi, Deidara, Sasori (it's all Magic.. duh) ect. Then Madara is even stronger. but we all know Madara will keep Sasuke.
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idk...could see madara as just using kabuto and sasuke to improve his odds of capturing the Bijuu. After that, he probably doesn't care what happens to either of them. If kabuto knows about 'Eye of the Moon' plan, he may have an issue with it. Else, he could just be waiting for madara to make a move, prepared with a counter. In that case, neither would before the war was over or one could just die before any backstabbing occurs.....but, I'm probably wrong.
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you know once kabuto has summoned all the unholy-undead peoples. madara could kill him. since the zombie a-team doesnt die when the user does.
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I think that Kabuto does have in mind to betray Madara. Madara appears to be expecting that though. He always thinks to himself "that sly fox" or "that no good...". He probably has a plan in a scenario in which Kabuto betrays him. Madara is always prepared, unless Kabuto gets him by surprise. It needs to be one big surprise to work against Madara though.
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I think that Kabuto does have in mind to betray Madara. Madara appears to be expecting that though. He always thinks to himself "that sly fox" or "that no good...". He probably has a plan in a scenario in which Kabuto betrays him. Madara is always prepared, unless Kabuto gets him by surprise. It needs to be one big surprise to work against Madara though.
The mysterious Coffin that shocked Madara is most likely a key point in the whole betraying Subject.
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The mysterious Coffin that shocked Madara is most likely a key point in the whole betraying Subject.

Undoubtedly. That's Kabuto's trump card in case Madara decides to betray him. Madara appears to be unprepared if the opposite was to happen however. And that would probably be his undoing.

Then again, he has Sasuke, and that's who Kabuto wants. He could threaten Kabuto to do something to Sasuke if he betrays him.
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Undoubtedly. That's Kabuto's trump card in case Madara decides to betray him. Madara appears to be unprepared if the opposite was to happen however. And that would probably be his undoing.

Then again, he has Sasuke, and that's who Kabuto wants. He could threaten Kabuto to do something to Sasuke if he betrays him.
Madara: If you betray me, I will do naughty naughty things to Sasuke.
Kabuto: Ill get the camera!
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Madara: Nice, 100 million views
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Madara: It would be easier... and less wastefull
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I think they both have in their minds to betray each other, only Kabuto is a step ahead, planting the seeds of Madara's destruction everywhere:

First was his convienant trail leading to his front door. Ended up accomplishing little, but he tried. Secondly, Kabuto was behind enhancing the Zetsu army, which I find to be a fatal and stupid mistake on Madara's part. Kabuto could probably snap his fingers and have them all keel over dead in a second. Combined with the fact he's controlling the zombies, he could probably cripple the entire force in a heartbeat, and leave Madara on the battlefield all by himself surronded by 80,000 ninjas. And of course even in the case of Madara letting go of the Sauce's leash to sick Kabuto, Kabuto has his own bone to throw: Itachi. I'm sure he would make the same offer Orochimaru made to Tsunade, only this time Sasuke will probably accept. So, unless someone else kills Madara soon, or Madara turns on Kabuto soon, Madara will be dead very soon. And ironically, because Kabuto is supplying most of the army, (Skill wise) Madara can't afford to kill him. (As most of the zombies would probably desert) So, Madara's soon screwed.
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Of course they will. It's so obviously in the plot it's pathetic.
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We don't know when and if Madara and Kabuto would betray each other because of Sasuke. If it happens, we could expect them fighting each other or maybe arguing. Sadly, we have to wait for that.
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We don't know when and if Madara and Kabuto would betray each other because of Sasuke. If it happens, we could expect them fighting each other or maybe arguing. Sadly, we have to wait for that.
Your right about "We don't know when" but "IF" is not even a question (in my opinion) and "BECAUSE OF SASUKE" is the main reason. Kabuto wants Sasuke. Madara's not just going to hand him over. Plus, Kabuto has already shown that he has prepared for the altercations that may arise bc of his "Hashirama poison". If they don't betray one another then Kishi's really fooling me.
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And of course even in the case of Madara letting go of the Sauce's leash to sick Kabuto, Kabuto has his own bone to throw: Itachi. I'm sure he would make the same offer Orochimaru made to Tsunade, only this time Sasuke will probably accept.
Would he? I mean the guy snapped when Kakashi was using the Sharingan. I don't think he'll like it when someone is using his brother as a puppet

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Default Re: Would Madara and Kabuto betray each other? (spoilers)

from volume 49 i can almost guarentee a betrayl in the future. At the moment Kabuto is a nuke that can go off at any second like Sasuke, in other words un-predictable. i mean, remember even madara was suprised at kabuto's power. orochimarus power is new to kabuto, and i dont think he really gets what power he now weilds....
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