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Old 02-23-2010, 03:06 AM   #1
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Default Announcement: Rights vs Priveleges.

Ok there has been a large amount of people PMing myself, as well as other mods and fail members that go like this:

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I was just voicing my opinion! I have the right to say what I want, this is AMERICA
Allow me to say this loudly and clearly.

By signing up to use the forums you agree to it's rules. Also you have no RIGHTS HERE.

I don't mind that you are trying to debate an infraction or someone editing your message, but you need to understand that the rules exist for a reason. Heck if I was allowed to say/do whatever I wanted, a good number of you would be constantly angry, screaming like children, have broken computers, and wonder why your parents keep getting calls from "the internet." But by the grace of "the rules" I am a fairly well balanced and contained guy.

If you feel something is done in error, cool, debate the incident. DO NOT go off at the person who infracted you. They donate their time to try to keep this place running, and while usually accurate everyone makes mistakes.

When you go off on these people they want to help less, which means more work for the admins. And even though they won't say it, they probably get ticked off when a user acting like a baby makes someone who is dedicating 5 hours a day quit.

Again, you have no right to say whatever you want, if we all had that right, this message wouldn't be as kind. So please work with the infractors, and don't act like children. If you do don't be surprised if every post you make needs to be moderated. Which means it won't post until someone approves it. Your forum experience will be diminished if you need to be treated like a child.

This doesn't mean infractors are beyond refute. Just DEBATE THE INCIDENT and the reason you were infracted, don't get all high and mighty about your nonexistant rights.
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Old 02-23-2010, 03:59 AM   #2
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yay toma for another exciting thread on how the forums can be better thank you
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yeah, i wouldn't even debate it. if they found something wrong with it they tell me and i learn and move on. :P
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Yes, so it doesn't matter if I have a gold burger with me or if I live in Andaman and Nicobar, the rules are the same for everyone. You guys have to understand that the rights for everyone are the same. xDD

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I thought this had already been made. But good that the point is being touched on again.

Understand that this site is NOT limited to America, but many other countries as well. Furthermore, just because American citizens and citizens of other countries may have the freedom of speech does not mean the speaker will not have to suffer the consequences of his or her actions. Go up to a police officer in the United States (example for the example PM Toma provided), and tell him you have a pound of heroin on you, see how well that goes.
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Well most of the members dont get that u dont even get rights until ur 18.lmao
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My view is that the internet is NOT America so the laws of the internet do not adhere to American standards. If we adhere to American standards, what about the Chinese law or the English law? Are there rights more meaningless? Adhering to American standards sure as hell makes it seem that way. Therefore the laws of the internet are made depending on community. I believe most rules on here are made to rightfully to adhere to the interests of viz as they own the site and do not feel like getting sued for copyright infringement or some eleven year old kid learning a bad word to the parents' dismay.
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Good work Toma nice judgments ?


I really like what you wrote and i agree 100 % because i am also a admin in my forum that i made and i have to be taking care of the baby that act so carless ?


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Man. I know we have to follow the rules, but don't we have rights in the off-topic session.
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You have the PRIVILEGE to post here, and in off topic we are pretty relaxed. But to answer your question, no.
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You have no RIGHT to anything, if an admin wanted , they could ban you, change your post, or do whatever they wanted.

You have the PRIVILEGE to post here, and in off topic we are pretty relaxed. But to answer your question, no.
Just to capitalize no what Toma said, this is a public forum, yes, but as a member of this forum you have agreed to certain things. By agreeing to the rules and regulations of this forum, you automatically said that you are willing to follow said rules and regulations. Seeing as how the admins and mods are actually PART of the hierarchy of the forums, they therefore have the same authority over you and I as the rules do. They, more or less, are the law around here. If they dictate to edit your post, delete a thread, ban you, infract you, etc. they have the both the right and privilege to do so. We, on the other hand, have the privilege of being allowed to participate in a forum such as this and basically just have a good time, so long as it's within the limitations of the forum guidelines.
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Well, I agree, if you join, you've been admitted to post here, it's a privaledge, Admins don't HAVE to let you join. They choose to be generous...even though they really do have to let you join.....it's kind of their job, but you get what I'm saying.

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Ok there has been a large amount of people PMing myself, as well as other mods and fail members that go like this:

Allow me to say this loudly and clearly.

By signing up to use the forums you agree to it's rules. Also you have no RIGHTS HERE.

I don't mind that you are trying to debate an infraction or someone editing your message, but you need to understand that the rules exist for a reason. Heck if I was allowed to say/do whatever I wanted, a good number of you would be constantly angry, screaming like children, have broken computers, and wonder why your parents keep getting calls from "the internet." But by the grace of "the rules" I am a fairly well balanced and contained guy.

If you feel something is done in error, cool, debate the incident. DO NOT go off at the person who infracted you. They donate their time to try to keep this place running, and while usually accurate everyone makes mistakes.

When you go off on these people they want to help less, which means more work for the admins. And even though they won't say it, they probably get ticked off when a user acting like a baby makes someone who is dedicating 5 hours a day quit.

Again, you have no right to say whatever you want, if we all had that right, this message wouldn't be as kind. So please work with the infractors, and don't act like children. If you do don't be surprised if every post you make needs to be moderated. Which means it won't post until someone approves it. Your forum experience will be diminished if you need to be treated like a child.

This doesn't mean infractors are beyond refute. Just DEBATE THE INCIDENT and the reason you were infracted, don't get all high and mighty about your nonexistant rights.
Just saw this.

By joining this forum, you automatically have to follow the rules. That's just how it works, and that's why there's that little contract that you have to check off, saying that you read and agreed to it.

And honestly, people in America don't even have as many rights as they might think off the internet. You can't just say whatever you want, especially on TV. Heck, that's why the FCC exists. If you say certain swears, they will be bleeped out. And if you threaten the Presisdent's life, even if it's just in public, or even on a facebook or myspace page, then you WILL be arrested when caught. I guarantee it. If you don't believe me, try it (and make sure you get caught, otherwise it won't work).

Just my two cents.
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basically this forum is a dictatorship.

oh and I agree with everything Toma said
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