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Old 10-02-2010, 04:35 PM   #21
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Kakashi Kamuis Sasori's head then Sasori won't be able to see then Raikiri to the Heart ..
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LOL , I kamui an Immortal now he can't see , He can't control 100 puppets without eyes , even if he can rebuild himself , It would be more than enough to speedblitz with a Raikiri !
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Kamui to the head. Now Sasori can't see, so Kakashi stabs him through the heart.

Kamui is not instant, it takes some seconds to start it and to focus it, in the meantime sasori would moved or shifted his heart to another puppet..

After getting some time sasori will just go flying and stab stab stab kakashi..
And if necessary, use 100 puppers
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I don't think Kakashi can blitz Sasori. Iron Sand Needles showed clear sonic booms, and Chiyo reacted to them. Sasori was easily keeping up with Chiyo's reaction speed, so I'd say that he can react to low supersonic speeds at least.

Anyway, Sasori outlasts Kakashi here, since he's shown a high level of stamina while Kakashi hasn't. Kamui is made useless since Sasori's only organ is his heart, and he could switch to another puppet body if his original body gets ruined by Kamui.
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:16 AM   #23
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Kamui is not instant, it takes some seconds to start it and to focus it, in the meantime sasori would moved or shifted his heart to another puppet..
Please keep up with the manga before saying BS out in public forums ..
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Kakashi can use the head hunter jutsu; maybe while Sasori is using poison gas or he could just use a smoke bomb for concealment, Kakashi gets behind Sasori and uses a lightning blade to Sasori's back and through his heart.
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Kamui is not instant, it takes some seconds to start it and to focus it, in the meantime sasori would moved or shifted his heart to another puppet..

After getting some time sasori will just go flying and stab stab stab kakashi..
And if necessary, use 100 puppers
Based on new feats he can use it much faster actually.
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Kakashi can use the head hunter jutsu; maybe while Sasori is using poison gas or he could just use a smoke bomb for concealment, Kakashi gets behind Sasori and uses a lightning blade to Sasori's back and through his heart.
Why would he use Head Hunter Jutsu when Sasori can't be seen?
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Why would he use Head Hunter Jutsu when Sasori can't be seen?
Why can't Sasori be seen?
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Because he would be hidden by the gas.
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Kamui needs prep you mean 0.072 seconds which is the prep time for Kamui to be performed ( Proven from the Sasuke vs Kakashi fight ).
Am I the only one that finds this ludicrous?

How in the world is Kamui that fast?
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Am I the only one that finds this ludicrous?

How in the world is Kamui that fast?
It's fast all right, but I don't see the calc that proves such a thing.

Also, it shouldn't do anything significant anyway, given the restrictions.
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It's fast all right, but I don't see the calc that proves such a thing.

Also, it shouldn't do anything significant anyway, given the restrictions.
Sure, but THAT fast? That means:

Kamui speed = 0.072 seconds, which an be rounded to 0.1 seconds
A Blink of an eye = Roughly 300 milliseconds = 0.3 seconds

Saying that Kamui is near eye blinking speed to prepare is kinda pushing it a tad.

Oooh, hahaha, I forgot about the OP restrictions as well. If Kakashi cannot Kamui Sasori's heart, then I say he's royally screwed.
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Because he would be hidden by the gas.
Kakashi can see his chakra flow with his Sharingan. He might not even need to do that though if he fights the way he normally does, which is hiding behind a rock while a shadow clone fights for him. Sasori would be to procupied with the clone which would make using the head hunter easy.
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Sure, but THAT fast? That means:

Kamui speed = 0.072 seconds, which an be rounded to 0.1 seconds
A Blink of an eye = Roughly 300 milliseconds = 0.3 seconds

Saying that Kamui is near eye blinking speed to prepare is kinda pushing it a tad.

Oooh, hahaha, I forgot about the OP restrictions as well. If Kakashi cannot Kamui Sasori's heart, then I say he's royally screwed.
Yeah, and he has to lift up the headband and activate Mangekyo
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Kakashi can see his chakra flow with his Sharingan. He might not even need to do that though if he fights the way he normally does, which is hiding behind a rock while a shadow clone fights for him. Sasori would be to procupied with the clone which would make using the head hunter easy.
Sasori can't use any puppets to help him?
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Yeah, and he has to lift up the headband and activate Mangekyo

Sasori can't use any puppets to help him?
He can but he has to be able to see Kakashi in order to do anything. Kakashi used a similar tactic on Pain, where he abruptly pops out of the ground to get him in a trap. Kakashi is very clever and normally watches as his clones fight, this was established by Choza in the series, Sasori wouldn't see Kakashi's attack coming and would likely think that the clone is the real Kakashi.
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He can but he has to be able to see Kakashi in order to do anything. Kakashi used a similar tactic on Pain, where he abruptly pops out of the ground to get him in a trap. Kakashi is very clever and normally watches as his clones fight, this was established by Choza in the series, Sasori wouldn't see Kakashi's attack coming and would likely think that the clone is the real Kakashi.
It's not like Sasori will stand there and let Kakashi go behind a rock, and if he gets the chance to summon his 100 puppet army, they can fight the clones.
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It's not like Sasori will stand there and let Kakashi go behind a rock, and if he gets the chance to summon his 100 puppet army, they can fight the clones.
You would think not but that is how it always happens. Capter 13 page 1, Zabuza was hiding in the mist watching team 7 while Kakashi used the water clone jutsu to replace himself as he hides and finds Zabuza. Kakashi does things like that all the time undetected.
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You would think not but that is how it always happens. Capter 13 page 1, Zabuza was hiding in the mist watching team 7 while Kakashi used the water clone jutsu to replace himself as he hides and finds Zabuza. Kakashi does things like that all the time undetected.
Sasori is very observant and the cave doesn't have a lot of hiding places (unless this is the cave after it was destroyed, then that's a different story) and also, can Zabuza even see in the mist?
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Sasori is very observant and the cave doesn't have a lot of hiding places (unless this is the cave after it was destroyed, then that's a different story) and also, can Zabuza even see in the mist?
Well Zabuza went around the genin and attacked Tazuna so he hust have been able to see. It's a similar concept to the replacement jutsu, they replace their bodies with a something without being detected some how.
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i reckon sasori has this in the bag considering we didnt even see all wat he was capable of in the series pastly because he had like 5 scrolls on his back and only used 3 i think,but only from wat we saw sasori will overwhelm kakashi,even if kakshi used kumai to his head sasori will have enough time to rebuild because it uses alor of his chakra and it injurys him which restricts his movements, just cos kakashi has mangekyou sharingan it doesnt make him invicible, all the amazing power in naruto always comes at a price.
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He can but he has to be able to see Kakashi in order to do anything. Kakashi used a similar tactic on Pain, where he abruptly pops out of the ground to get him in a trap. Kakashi is very clever and normally watches as his clones fight, this was established by Choza in the series, Sasori wouldn't see Kakashi's attack coming and would likely think that the clone is the real Kakashi.
mind you sasori is extremly celver as well considering he can make some intense poison and he thinks about wat hes doing in battle unless he gets pissed off like he did in the anime
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