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Old 09-24-2010, 02:17 PM   #21
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Elemental Range kept Kakashi at bay far away plus with multiple spammers. Also I guess Kakashi wanted to conserve chakra as well. Who knows?

In a non PIS bloodlust scenario, especially with knowledge then yes it may occur.

Kakashi not using MS was PIS like Asura not using Missiles or Laser.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:22 PM   #22
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tough match...kakashi wins. kamui
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Elemental Range kept Kakashi at bay far away plus with multiple spammers. Also I guess Kakashi wanted to conserve chakra as well. Who knows?

In a non PIS bloodlust scenario, especially with knowledge then yes it may occur.

Kakashi not using MS was PIS like Asura not using Missiles or Laser.
Why couldn't he have used it while hiding in the
trees. Its logical for Kakashi to think, "if i used
Kamui, i can get rid of them"

The point here is he doesnt use Kamui often.
But since this is a forum, we are free to say
"Kakashi kamui's this and that" but in the
reality of the Naruto world, thats all false.
Well, mostly
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Why couldn't he have used it while hiding in the
trees. Its logical for Kakashi to think, "if i used
Kamui, i can get rid of them"

The point here is he doesnt use Kamui often.
But since this is a forum, we are free to say
"Kakashi kamui's this and that" but in the
reality of the Naruto world, thats all false.
Well, mostly
By then we didn't know what much Kakashi improved with Kamui. So we can't say anything.

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Key phrase. Bloodlust scenario. No PIS.

We are talking as if the manga had no influence at all in terms of plot. That is what the battle forums are for.
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Old 09-24-2010, 02:56 PM   #25
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By then we didn't know what much Kakashi improved with Kamui. So we can't say anything.

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Key phrase. Bloodlust scenario. No PIS.

We are talking as if the manga had no influence at all in terms of plot. That is what the battle forums are for.
hmm perhaps your right.
haha in that case, what are we arguing about?
I mean I understand and all but the characters is
who they are because of they're atttibutes.
What we percieve them in the manga is what makes
them who they are. If we used them out of
character, are they still the same characters in the
Naruto world? I've always done most of my thread
with Characters IC because I want to get the most
precise answers that would make sense in the manga.
I try to make the characters be seen as the same as
they would be seen in the manga.
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Out of character is a bit too much to say. Bloodlust simply makes the character act more quickly in killing intent.

I know that nobody tries to argue IC Kakashi uses Kamui right away unless they didn't read the OP.
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Out of character is a bit too much to say. Bloodlust simply makes the character act more quickly in killing intent.

I know that nobody tries to argue IC Kakashi uses Kamui right away unless they didn't read the OP.
Bloodlust makes character act as if they
were different character from what's
percieved in the manga. With Bloodlust
it is perfectly natural to win a fight
using only 1 jutsu. Is this accurate in
the Naruto world? I dont think so.
With Bloodlust, Kakashi can just Kamui
anyone he fights at the start of the
battle.
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Yes and no. Bloodlust simply means they aren't playing around they are just going for the kill.

Which is why Simple Genin, I said Battle forums exist in a non Plot setting.
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Yes and no. Bloodlust simply means they aren't playing around they are just going for the kill.

Which is why Simple Genin, I said Battle forums exist in a non Plot setting.
It still doesnt take away the fact that with bloodlust
character like Kakashi and Killerbee can win instantly,
there's no other way to go about it. kakashi with Kamui
and Killerbee with Hachibi, which is so out of character.

ha is that suppose to be funny "Simple Genin"? It exist
in a none plot setting but it doesnt mean we cant try
to replicate the way characters are in the manga.
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Yes and no.

No I was actually stating your name which I happen to do time to time, not making a mockery of you. Don't blame me for something you call yourself.

Hence IC and Bloodlust. Mind you these are broad settings thats why there is a thing called debate.
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Yes and no.

No I was actually stating your name which I happen to do time to time, not making a mockery of you. Don't blame me for something you call yourself.

Hence IC and Bloodlust. Mind you these are broad settings thats why there is a thing called debate.
Ahuh. Yep.

IC= Characters act more like they
do in the manga.

Bloodlust=Out of character where
characters can simply 1 move KO
anyone depending on the characters.
Their's nothing wrong with it, but
like i said I prefer IC.
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Yes and no.

Ok and?

So its your preference then. No biggie then.
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Kakashi vs Asura and Deva, one could say was partially bloodlusted, but PIS as well

however against Tobi, Kakashi was truly bloodlusted due to how Tobi had manipulated Sasuke, and really wanted to kill him fast, but backed out of it due to Tobi's warning, which again is kinda lame on kishi's part, a fight would have been more interesting

then again, with Tobi coming after Naruto (who still needs training) now, Tobi vs Kakashi seems pretty likely
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How is that forum Colorles?
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that underground forum which seems nonexistent in google
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its nigh impossible to find

thats why forums like that cease to grow after a while. members get bored, and they die

this ones not dead, but its slow, i was jus trying to help it expand for Jedi Matt

its basically jus like a small scale branch off of Spacebattles anyways, which is a pretty interesting place actually
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spacebattles is mostly about SciFI in battle but has good members and not as much wank.
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i'm enjoying Anime Suki as of late, nice diversity there and such

oh an on topic, healthy Orochimaru has so much variety and durablity that even Kakashi would have trouble against him, and his only move that could undeniably finish Oro off for good is Kamui
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i'm enjoying Anime Suki as of late, nice diversity there and such

oh an on topic, healthy Orochimaru has so much variety and durablity that even Kakashi would have trouble against him, and his only move that could undeniably finish Oro off for good is Kamui
This is pretty much what I said.
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