Kakashi vs Deva Pein

[colorles]

no restrictions

fight one: in character but battle ready and such

fight two: bloodlusted

location: where they fought in the manga

[Akatsuki X]

Shinra Tenseied into the nearest mountain.

[colorles]

Deva gets his head kamui'd off

as i said in another thread, this is a space/time quikdraw ninja style....either Deva gets his head kamui'd off, or Kakashi gets shinra tensei'd into the nearest mountain....Kamui is instant upon eye constact at this point, shinra tensei is pretty much telepathic, although for a more powerful one to actually seriously hurt kakashi would require him to raise his hand....at best for Deva, this ends in a draw, with Kakashi Kamui'ing of Deva's head, while deva shinra tensei's him with his head already detached from his spinal chord and in another demention

should make a western out of this or somthing ;], Kakashi kinda is like the Clint Eastwood of Narutoverse lol

[Susanoo's Eyes]

Kakashi is Shinra Tenseied into the nearest mountain before kakashi can even process the thought of kamuiing deva's head off.Also in character means he won't fire Kamui off straight away.

[colorles]

well in the bloodlusted one, Deva Pein will find his head in another demention before he can process the thought of shinra tensei, and mind you to use a significantly poweful shinra tensei, he has to raise and arm or too; only the weaker shinra tensei's he can do completely telepathically, and kakashi can survive those and kamui deva's head off, and Kamui is still possibly more instant at this point anyways

either way in the bloodlusted scenario, Deva Pein's head will be kamui'd off

[Kakashi Hatake_Yamato]

i love it how people say that kakashi can kamui people's heads off...but its totally true
it will happen before the foe knows it, then, match over

[NBT]

1.CST
2.CT stomps mudhole.

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Originally Posted by NBT

1.CST
2.CT stomps mudhole.

maybe, maybe not

Deva Pein has his head kamui'd off long before he can use Chibuku Tensei or any attack

[Akatsuki X]

Kakashi has to activate MS and then use Kumai.

Deva raises his hand and says Shinra Tensei.

You tell me who wins.....

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Akatsuki X

Kakashi has to activate MS and then use Kumai.

Deva raises his hand and says Shinra Tensei.

You tell me who wins.....

Kakashi using Kamui is faster tahn Deva pain using shinra tensei in said manner, and warping TWO susano arrows from very close range supports this

Deva Pein gets his head quikdraw kamui'd off

[Akatsuki X]

Prove it.
Prove that Kakashi can activate MS and use Kunai before Pain simply says Shinra Tensei and you are correct.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Akatsuki X

Prove it.
Prove that Kakashi can activate MS and use Kunai before Pain simply says Shinra Tensei and you are correct.

first of all, when Kakashi kamui'd the nail from Deva Pain, that nail appeared to be propelled by shinra tensei, but thats contriversial

and of course, once again, Kakashi instantly warped two susano arrows from very close range, granted which Deva could counter with shinra tensei as well

at best i see both of the techs equal in instantaneous speed, however for stronder shinra tensei's deva has to raise his hand, during which time Kakashi can kamui his head off

[Susanoo's Eyes]

Shinra Tensei blocked a FRS which is faster to you? Susanoo's arrow or FRS?

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Originally Posted by Susanoo's Eyes

Shinra Tensei blocked a FRS which is faster to you? Susanoo's arrow or FRS?

Kamui instanly warped TWO susano arrows from closer range than the FRS

which is faster? a giant arrow fired from a bow should be faster than a thown projectile, but this is manga, so....to be honest they seem comparable, although overall FRS is more deadly due to its abiolity to expand....still though the kamui feat is a bit more impressive than the shinra tensei feat, and Kamui just requires eye contact, a powerful shinra tensei requirs Deva pain to raise his arm, although lesser ones dont

as i said, at best they draw and they both die, althogh Kamui most likely kills first

[Susanoo's Eyes]

Deva reacted as well to two naruto clones and a FRS without shinra tensei, and if Shinra Tensei can deflect FRS then then its faster then susanno's arrows which as they say are supersonic.

[colorles]

Deva Pein has some of the fastest reaction speeds in narutoverse, in fact he rivals kakashi

as i said, this is a quikdraw, ninja style



that being said i would like to get some more oppinions, although as i said, the best scenario i see for Deva Path is a draw with both combatents being destroyed simultaneously, although as i also said, Kamui is instant upon eye contact, while a powerful shinra tensei also required eye contact in a telepathic sense, but for a powerful shinra tensei he has to raise his arm

Kakashi more than likely wins this quikdraw....and can sombody please correct my spelling of 'quik'? i could just look it up, but i've been mispelling it this entire thread, so i will allow you the satisfaction of correcting me ;]

[Susanoo's Eyes]

just also going to throw this out there but Deva path can also use Shinra Tensei without his hands meaning it takes kakashi to activate mangekyo while Deva is already shinra Tenseiing kakashi , and it dosen't require eye contact seeing he broke the mud wall behind him when he shinra tenseied.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Susanoo's Eyes

just also going to throw this out there but Deva path can also use Shinra Tensei without his hands meaning it takes kakashi to activate mangekyo while Deva is already shinra Tenseiing kakashi , and it dosen't require eye contact seeing he broke the mud wall behind him when he shinra tenseied.

yeah he can use shinra tensei without raising his hand, but it has proven to be less powerful, not powerful enough to kill kakashi in one shot, and even if it is powerful enough to kill, then they would both die as kamui would still land

to do a powerful shinra tensei, Deva has to raise a hand, and to do a massive shinra tensei, both hands


granted it does not take long to raise a hand, but against Kakashi and his kamui, Deva's head will be gone before he can completely rais his hand most likely

[Susanoo's Eyes]

Originally Posted by colorles

yeah he can use shinra tensei without raising his hand, but it has proven to be less powerful, not powerful enough to kill kakashi in one shot, and even if it is powerful enough to kill, then they would both die as kamui would still land

to do a powerful shinra tensei, Deva has to raise a hand, and to do a massive shinra tensei, both hands


granted it does not take long to raise a hand, but against Kakashi and his kamui, Deva's head will be gone before he can completely rais his hand most likely

Proof of this?

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Susanoo's Eyes

Proof of this?

proof of the raising of the hands=more power? well look at the shinra tensei's used against kakashi, which he did not use his hands, and compare it to Chou Shinra Tensei where he used both hands....yeah



anyways to kill Kakashi, Deva would have to raise just one hand, but thats one hand to many

and even if he tries to shinra tensei kakashi telepathically with no hands, he still gets his head kamui'd off simultaneously