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Old 10-19-2010, 12:16 AM   #81
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Thats why I added the quotations.
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:28 AM   #82
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Thats why I added the quotations.
So then what proves Tobi is _____?
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:30 AM   #83
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Default Re: The Big Wager: Tobi's True Identity Contest.

I'd mainly say backstory. He's been claiming to be Madara for the better part of 150 chapters, and people still question it.

Once Kishi throws some insight into the life and lies of Tobi, we'll close the topic and pick the winner. Sound about right?
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Old 10-19-2010, 12:58 AM   #84
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I'd mainly say backstory. He's been claiming to be Madara for the better part of 150 chapters, and people still question it.

Once Kishi throws some insight into the life and lies of Tobi, we'll close the topic and pick the winner. Sound about right?

So perhaps a flashback that shows how person x became "Tobi"?
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Old 10-19-2010, 01:01 AM   #85
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Yeah I'd go for that. We havent really seen what prompted "Madara" to don the mask.
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What if Madara/Tobi isn't even any one we know about. And it happens to be some random guy we never notice but has all ways been their
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TOBI is OBITO
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I think Tobi is Obito they have the same hair and many more things alike i put it on youtube all my facts
Good thing we all know which video your talking about, huh. It sure helps that you provided a link! Oh wait, you didn't.

Tobi is Madara.

And as for that Madara was in ANBU comment, proof? Just because a ninja wears a mask, doesn't mean he's in ANBU. Nowhere in the manga did it say that Madara was part of ANBU.
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i say Madara is Izuna. i have made a few posts dont feel like reposting or lookin for them so ill keep it basic.

Izuna was said to have died in battle, but no one knows where an no body has been said to have been recovered or burried. he was equal in chakra an power an knowledge of the sharringan.

they way i see it is he came upon the battle between Madara an the first afterwards. took out the eyes, collected blood from the first ( could be on madara's weapon or his fists where ever ). he could have even used izangi to gain all insight of the battle from the eyes thus shadowing one of em. ( wag )

his hatred for the leaf an his own clan could stem from finding his brother dead. that would be why he wanted to wipe out his clan for betraying their leader Madara. and the leaf because the first hokage beat / killed his brother.


also another possibility is Izuna came upon Madara beaten an dying. Madara uses Izangi to exchange bodies w/ his brother. and the above reasons than transfer over. Madara blames the first for making him take over his brother's body ,and his clan for not backing him up and forcing him to take his brother's body to save himself.


i am more for Izuna is Madara though.
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i say Madara is Izuna. i have made a few posts dont feel like reposting or lookin for them so ill keep it basic.

Izuna was said to have died in battle, but no one knows where an no body has been said to have been recovered or burried. he was equal in chakra an power an knowledge of the sharringan.

they way i see it is he came upon the battle between Madara an the first afterwards. took out the eyes, collected blood from the first ( could be on madara's weapon or his fists where ever ). he could have even used izangi to gain all insight of the battle from the eyes thus shadowing one of em. ( wag )

his hatred for the leaf an his own clan could stem from finding his brother dead. that would be why he wanted to wipe out his clan for betraying their leader Madara. and the leaf because the first hokage beat / killed his brother.


also another possibility is Izuna came upon Madara beaten an dying. Madara uses Izangi to exchange bodies w/ his brother. and the above reasons than transfer over. Madara blames the first for making him take over his brother's body ,and his clan for not backing him up and forcing him to take his brother's body to save himself.


i am more for Izuna is Madara though.
They already showed Izuna's body in the casket with wrappings over the holes in his head.
Izanagi doesn't work like a vcr. Even if he did use it, he would be left with only one eye.

To make it short, Izuna died before Madara fought against the 1st which makes your argument a mp.
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Old 11-03-2010, 02:41 PM   #91
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i say Madara is Izuna. i have made a few posts dont feel like reposting or lookin for them so ill keep it basic.

Izuna was said to have died in battle, but no one knows where an no body has been said to have been recovered or burried. he was equal in chakra an power an knowledge of the sharringan. He was shown dead, he was burred. Konaha crumbled the uchiha clan place is sealed off. His body is gone.

they way i see it is he came upon the battle between Madara an the first afterwards. took out the eyes, collected blood from the first ( could be on madara's weapon or his fists where ever ). he could have even used izangi to gain all insight of the battle from the eyes thus shadowing one of em. ( wag ) So your saying Madara died at the fight, took the living 1st Hokage's blood and such, and used a Jutsu he didn't have? Brilliant. :/ Oh and him being dead at this time doesn't come into consideration I see.

his hatred for the leaf an his own clan could stem from finding his brother dead. that would be why he wanted to wipe out his clan for betraying their leader Madara. and the leaf because the first hokage beat / killed his brother. Izuna is dead at this time

also another possibility is Izuna came upon Madara beaten an dying. Madara uses Izangi to exchange bodies w/ his brother. and the above reasons than transfer over. Madara blames the first for making him take over his brother's body ,and his clan for not backing him up and forcing him to take his brother's body to save himself. what the 1st hokage fight. If so why in the word will the 1st hokage let Izuna take his body and then take all of his power. Oh and he is dead at this time


i am more for Izuna is Madara though.
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They already showed Izuna's body in the casket with wrappings over the holes in his head.
Izanagi doesn't work like a vcr. Even if he did use it, he would be left with only one eye.

To make it short, Izuna died before Madara fought against the 1st which makes your argument a mp.
when did they show this? i dont remember him being shown dead tbh.
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when did they show this? i dont remember him being shown dead tbh.
Vol. 43 Ch.399 The Beginning of Everything Page 5 Lower right panel (Madara's version)

Itachi's version shows Madara in a more villainous light (There's no body, but Itachi claims that Madara took the eyes forcefully so it's up to your interpretation :\)
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I don't know who he is but wouldn't it be crazy if the last coffin that made tobi uneasy was in fact the real madara? how can anyone not have doubts about madara? The only thing we know for sure is that he lied to sasuke. maybe he's an uzumaki...that explains why he was able to survive for so long.

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Can I repost my Theory on Kagami being Tobi cause I missed ALOT of points.
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Can I repost my Theory on Kagami being Tobi cause I missed ALOT of points.
I bet the Uchiha and the Akimichi were just add ons to make the Kinkaku force seem more elite.

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i believe Tobi is indeed Madara no question.... but what been bothering me is the "myth" about the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and why Madara so far has not shown his EMS

the reason i say myth about the EMS is because so far theres been no solid proof that such a thing exist in naruverse (at least until Sasuke's bandages are removed)

so i think the theory of the EMS might have been a little exaggerated or misunderstood
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i believe Tobi is indeed Madara no question.... but what been bothering me is the "myth" about the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan and why Madara so far has not shown his EMS

the reason i say myth about the EMS is because so far theres been no solid proof that such a thing exist in naruverse (at least until Sasuke's bandages are removed)

so i think the theory of the EMS might have been a little exaggerated or misunderstood

Well.....there's nothing to disprove that perception. Good thinking. Rep up.
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