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Old 10-12-2010, 12:59 PM   #61
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I think that Tobi = Madara, but Madara is sharing a body with either obito or shisui uchiha. I say he's sharing a body because of 3 reasons.
1. we've seen 2 dramatically different personalities from Tobi

2. In Tobi's fight with Konan one side of his face was shaded (like Zetsu).

3. He's hiding his face for some reason

The reason I think Obito or Shisui is because it seems that Tobi may be able to control ppl with his sharingan. (Yahiko to form Akatski and Nagato to carry out his plans). We've seen the eye of Obito and Shisui have this same power.

Obito's eye is held by Kakashi who used this technique in his fight with Zabuza.

Shisui's eye was held by Danzo who used this technique in the meeting of the Kages.

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I think that Tobi = Madara, but Madara is sharing a body with either obito or shisui uchiha. I say he's sharing a body because of 2 reasons.
1. we've seen 2 dramatically different personalities from Tobi

2. In Tobi's fight with Konan one side of his face was shaded (like Zetsu).

The reason I think Obito or Shisui is because it seems that Tobi may be able to control ppl with his sharingan. (Yahiko to form Akatski and Nagato to carry out his plans). We've seen the eye of Obito and Shisui have this same power.

Obito's eye is held by Kakashi who used this technique in his fight with Zabuza.

Shisui's eye was held by Danzo who used this teqnique in the meeting of the Kages.
When did Kakashi use his Sharingan to control Zabuza. I don't recall that ever happening.
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When did Kakashi use his Sharingan to control Zabuza. I don't recall that ever happening.
Kakashi willed zabuza to make certain hand signs and use certain jutsu while kakashi performed the exact same things simultaniously. He done it to psych Zabuza out by making him think he could see the future.
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Kakashi willed zabuza to make certain hand signs and use certain jutsu while kakashi performed the exact same things simultaniously. He done it to psych Zabuza out by making him think he could see the future.
He didn't, Kakashi is just fast had has the basic I-can-see-your-moves-has-you-make-them-but-a-bit-faster-before-you-do-them
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What the hell why not somebody new. I think tobi is the sage of the 6 paths.
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What the hell why not somebody new. I think tobi is the sage of the 6 paths.
Rikudo? Thing about that again
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He didn't, Kakashi is just fast had has the basic I-can-see-your-moves-has-you-make-them-but-a-bit-faster-before-you-do-them
I don't think it's against the forum rules for me to post where it is in the manga. if it is I apoligize. look at ch. 26 pg.15 of the manga. I percieve it as kakashi is having zabuza perform the hand seals he wants him too without zabuza knowing it (in 1st battle, this is actually Zabuza explaining in the second battle.)
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I don't think it's against the forum rules for me to post where it is in the manga. if it is I apoligize. look at ch. 26 pg.15 of the manga. I percieve it as kakashi is having zabuza perform the hand seals he wants him too without zabuza knowing it (in 1st battle, this is actually Zabuza explaining in the second battle.)
No, that was to actually show that the Sharingan can copy an opponent's jutsu, which Kakashi did. He made him think he could see the future by performing the same hand signs at a fast rate.
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No, that was to actually show that the Sharingan can copy an opponent's jutsu, which Kakashi did. He made him think he could see the future by performing the same hand signs at a fast rate.
Actually, Kakashi used the Sharingan to suggest actions to Zabuza, making him think he was thinking of them himself, that was how Kakashi was able to say the exact same thing as Zabuza at the same time. Zabuza called it the Sharingan's "Hypnotic eye" and this enabled Kakashi to make it seem like he could see the future.
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Actually, Kakashi used the Sharingan to suggest actions to Zabuza, making him think he was thinking of them himself, that was how Kakashi was able to say the exact same thing as Zabuza at the same time. Zabuza called it the Sharingan's "Hypnotic eye" and this enabled Kakashi to make it seem like he could see the future.
Thank you!!!!!! well said. that's what I was getting at.
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Actually, Kakashi used the Sharingan to suggest actions to Zabuza, making him think he was thinking of them himself, that was how Kakashi was able to say the exact same thing as Zabuza at the same time. Zabuza called it the Sharingan's "Hypnotic eye" and this enabled Kakashi to make it seem like he could see the future.
Wow! You just made me feel dumb. xD Anyways, my apologies to EvL, but I still think he didn't control Zabuza.
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Wow! You just made me feel dumb. xD Anyways, my apologies to EvL, but I still think he didn't control Zabuza.
agree. maybe control is a strong word. but strongly suggested without words or body language. maybe that's the same thing Danzo did with shisui's eye. either way, I think i can still stand by my Tobi theory.
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So when do we know for sure who Tobi really is? What's the smoking gun?
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When he takes off his mask and says "hai guys its me"
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When he takes off his mask and says "hai guys its me"

Well we've pretty much seen a good portion of his face already.
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Im not convinced.
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It's frickin' Udon, you idiots. Obvious.
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My point exactly. The rest of his face isn't going to explain who Tobi is.
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