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Old 04-28-2011, 07:40 PM   #201
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Default Re: The Big Wager: Tobi's True Identity Contest.

Alright, let me have a go at this theory of who Tobi is. There are many different assumptions such as Madara, Obito, etc. Although I personally believe that Tobi is Madara, I haven't seen many people say that it is actually the elder son of the sage of six paths. Tobi says that the elder brother inherited the ocular powers, but he also says that the clan turns into the Uchiha. I'm pretty sure that at this point we all know that the Uchiha have the Sharingan kekke genkai, not the Rinnegan. So if you think about it, Tobi could be the elder brother. I know the timelines and stuff may not work out, but remember *I think this is Tobi who I'm thinking about, excuse me if I'm wrong* when Tobi told Naruto that only he could live forever? Ehh, ehh! That could mean that maybe Tobi fought against the younger brother and yet still lived on. I don't know, just something for you guys to think about.
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Old 04-30-2011, 07:58 AM   #202
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I think its for sure madara but he is using some one else body.that why he said he nothing more than a shell of his former self. Also that's why he didn't think twice when he tore his arm off when it got infected by those nano bugs.
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I think its safe to say Madara is Tobi. Now, I read the manga so I'm gonna put spoiler tags around my reasoning since it contains lots of spoilers XD

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First off, "Tobi" started taking off his mask when he was talking to Saskue about Itachi's truth and Saskue shot Amaterasu at him. Tobi stated it was a trap implemented by Itachi. Why would Itachi set a trap for Tobi if it weren't Madara considering Madara knows Itachi's truth and Itachi didn't want Saskue to know? Another reason is that Tobi stated he was Madara Uchiha XD. Also, in the recent Manga, Madara was standing in his hideout and Zetsu reffered to him as "Tobi".


Many times Madara is reffered to as "Tobi" and Tobi even stated he was Madara himself! Also, although Tobi only had his right eye showing (which coincedently is the eye Obito still had) it doesn't mean he is Obito. Madara stated he was only a "shell" of his "old self" so doesnt want to wear out both eyes. Also, how would Tobi know everything about Madara and know Itachi's truth. It was said only the Elders and Madara knew, yet "Tobi" knew as well, and since we know "Tobi" isn't a Konoha Elder he must be Madara!

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In recent Manga, Madara fights Konan and uses Izanagi during the fight, which took roost in his left eye. That explains why Tobi's mask only showed the right eye. It's because the left eye was being saved to use Izanagi!


Also, even if Tobi isn't Madara, I highly doubt he is Obito because Obito died in a rockfall. How and why would Obito live and go rouge? Obito is deffinetly dead because countless times Kishi said the Uchiha were extinct (of course excluding Itachi and Saskue) so that includes Obito. If Tobi wasn't Madara, why would he lie about being him? It would only make himself hated even more. I think it is very safe to say the Tobi=Madara.
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I'm going out on a limb here...

Does anyone else think it's strange that Shisui's body was never discovered? Or perhaps that Madara only ever uses one eye until he gets the Rinnegan?
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Does anyone else think it's strange that Shisui's body was never discovered? Or perhaps that Madara only ever uses one eye until he gets the Rinnegan?
Kabuto gave an explanation about his body. He said there is anything hardly left of it.
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I'm going out on a limb here...

Does anyone else think it's strange that Shisui's body was never discovered? Or perhaps that Madara only ever uses one eye until he gets the Rinnegan?
Madara only uses one eye because the left eye had Izanagi, so it was virtually useless. When Madara fights Konan he reveals his left eye and the eye had Izanagi.
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Ah. See, questions are good then. I did not know that. I'm a bit new to some of the stuff especially when it comes to Madara. I'm a very new fan of his. Thank you for telling me that.
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In my opinnion Tobi is an incomplete Edo tensei of Madara Himself thus explaining his need to know more about the technique and to copy it using the sharingan to learn more about it and regenerating at slow rate as the normal edo tensei summoned by kabuto and orochimaru
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In my opinnion Tobi is an incomplete Edo tensei of Madara Himself thus explaining his need to know more about the technique and to copy it using the sharingan to learn more about it and regenerating at slow rate as the normal edo tensei summoned by kabuto and orochimaru
Wait...so Tobi is Madara, that's what you're saying, right?
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I wanna just point out one thing...I dunno, if this has been said or not,

but has anybody else noticed that Madara's EMS has NEVER been shown in current time? It's *always* the three tomoe. Sure, there's the Rinnegan as well, but no EMS. I'm drifting towards the fact that it might be Izuna, considering they were said to be nearly twin brothers. If Madara faked his own death, why couldn't Izuna as well? Kinda unlikely, but possible...Madara may have died when he fought the 1st Hokage after all, and Izuna just took his place from then on? Who knows...aside from Kishi-kun anyways. Point being, there may be no lies, there just might be some missing truths in the stories. Izuna may have even pulled an Oro and stole Madara's body. Wouldn't that be interesting..
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Does anyone else think it's strange that Shisui's body was never discovered? Or perhaps that Madara only ever uses one eye until he gets the Rinnegan?
shisui his long dead killed by itachi and his eyes shown on tobis laboratory
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Kabuto gave an explanation about his body. He said there is anything hardly left of it.
He said he couldn't find Shisui's Body anywhere.
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Wait, How come danzo only took 1 of shisui's eyes, and tobi only used 1 eye?

1 + 1 = 2.

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shishui body is on the dimension of tobi... like danzo wasnt able to see his body.
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Wait, How come danzo only took 1 of shisui's eyes, and tobi only used 1 eye?

1 + 1 = 2.

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That's cause you got your math wrong.

1+1 = 11.
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tobi is toto cool he is madara
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ok i think that Tobi = Obi-to
the reason its because he uses his eyes to control the time and space ninjutsu and kakashi has the same eye but he cant use it as well as well as tobi because he is not from the Uchiha clan and he doesn't have enough chakra. i don't think that obi-to die crushed by the rocks .

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Kabuto gave an explanation about his body. He said there is anything hardly left of it.
That was his explanation of not summoning Jiraiya.

He said he couldn't find Shisui's body. Perhaps Danzo had it destroyed. But you know my theory on Shisui.
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