Eureka-That's how Madara did it

[Wooster]

One of the remaining mysteries about Madara is how he survived his fight with the first Hokage. Even the first Hokage though he was dead, so I assume he saw Madara's dead body. So how did Madara pull this off.

I think the last few chapters have answered this question: Izanagi. When Danzo uses the Izanagi not only is a dead body left, but even Karin believes Danzo has died momentarily, and Karin is apparently the best sensor in the ninja world.

What better way for Madara to escape a losing battle than to pretend to have died. Of course, what we have seen with the Izanagi is that it 'closes' a Sharingan eye. This probably means it is lost. This is the reason why Madara wears his one eye mask, his other eye has been closed. Even with EMS, without both eyes Madara would lose much of his powers, at least two of the MS jutsu. Madara knows this jutsu and while he says its forbidden, I am sure he wouldn't be opposed to use a forbidden jutsu.

/adds baking soda

[junchurikioftheleaf]

hmm good theory

[Ookami Hime]

Originally Posted by Wooster

One of the remaining mysteries about Madara is how he survived his fight with the first Hokage. Even the first Hokage though he was dead, so I assume he saw Madara's dead body. So how did Madara pull this off.

I think the last few chapters have answered this question: Izanagi. When Danzo uses the Izanagi not only is a dead body left, but even Karin believes Danzo has died momentarily, and Karin is apparently the best sensor in the ninja world.

What better way for Madara to escape a losing battle than to pretend to have died. Of course, what we have seen with the Izanagi is that it 'closes' a Sharingan eye. This probably means it is lost. This is the reason why Madara wears his one eye mask, his other eye has been closed. Even with EMS, without both eyes Madara would lose much of his powers, at least two of the MS jutsu. Madara knows this jutsu and while he says its forbidden, I am sure he wouldn't be opposed to use a forbidden jutsu.

Hmm now that I think about it this is the most logical explanation as to why he's still alive ^^

[Vivi]

Originally Posted by Wooster

One of the remaining mysteries about Madara is how he survived his fight with the first Hokage. Even the first Hokage though he was dead, so I assume he saw Madara's dead body. So how did Madara pull this off.

I think the last few chapters have answered this question: Izanagi. When Danzo uses the Izanagi not only is a dead body left, but even Karin believes Danzo has died momentarily, and Karin is apparently the best sensor in the ninja world.

What better way for Madara to escape a losing battle than to pretend to have died. Of course, what we have seen with the Izanagi is that it 'closes' a Sharingan eye. This probably means it is lost. This is the reason why Madara wears his one eye mask, his other eye has been closed. Even with EMS, without both eyes Madara would lose much of his powers, at least two of the MS jutsu. Madara knows this jutsu and while he says its forbidden, I am sure he wouldn't be opposed to use a forbidden jutsu.

Wow did you do this yourself or copy my post on another site from about 2 days ago?

[Ur Mom]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Wow did you do this yourself or copy my post on another site from about 2 days ago?

You predicted this before?

[Raiden]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Wow did you do this yourself or copy my post on another site from about 2 days ago?

WOW maybe he already had the thought in his head but didn't bother telling anybody untell now, I did when I read the last Manga Chapter, I mean did he copy word by word V-val?

[Wooster]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Wow did you do this yourself or copy my post on another site from about 2 days ago?

Hey, I don't copy. But if you thought of it first, why not post it here?

/adds spoiled milk

[Ashido]

Originally Posted by V-Valentine

Wow did you do this yourself or copy my post on another site from about 2 days ago?

I think it's vain to start claiming ownership over theories and/or thoughts about the manga. None of them are 100% original. Most people instantly connected that since Madara has knowledge of Izanagi, it's more than likely possible that he's used it in the past, thus leading to speculation on where/when he would have used it. Just because you write an idea down in a random internet forum, doesn't mean many others haven't already thought of it before you or picked up the same trail of thought.

Anyway, nice theory Wooster, thanks for posting.

[deidara330]

Excellent theory, makes more than perfect sense. This explains (nearly) every mystery surrounding Madara.

[Deadman 8234]

Originally Posted by Wooster

One of the remaining mysteries about Madara is how he survived his fight with the first Hokage. Even the first Hokage though he was dead, so I assume he saw Madara's dead body. So how did Madara pull this off.

I think the last few chapters have answered this question: Izanagi. When Danzo uses the Izanagi not only is a dead body left, but even Karin believes Danzo has died momentarily, and Karin is apparently the best sensor in the ninja world.

What better way for Madara to escape a losing battle than to pretend to have died. Of course, what we have seen with the Izanagi is that it 'closes' a Sharingan eye. This probably means it is lost. This is the reason why Madara wears his one eye mask, his other eye has been closed. Even with EMS, without both eyes Madara would lose much of his powers, at least two of the MS jutsu. Madara knows this jutsu and while he says its forbidden, I am sure he wouldn't be opposed to use a forbidden jutsu.

That's a great theory. Did you come up with it all on your own.

[Yori]

Now that's a solid theory, good job on it

[Wooster]

I guess I should put this to rest. Yes, I am came up with this theory by myself. Obviously, others could have thought of this before. I checked the threads here for it and didn't see it.
I am an easy going guy, so if you want to claim you thought of it first that's cool. I would suggest not carelessly throwing around the charges of plagarism. In my line of work that's a serious charge. If I were to bring in other's thoughts I would always cite it.

/adds ammonium bicarbonate

[Yori]

Originally Posted by Wooster

I guess should put this to rest. Yes, I am came up with this theory by myself. Obviously, others could have thought of this before. I checked the threads here for it and didn't see it.
I am an easy going guy, so if you want to claim you thought of it first that's cool. I would suggest not carelessly throwing around the charges of plagarism. In my line of work that's a serious charge. If I were to bring in other's thoughts I would always cite it.

Eh, I believe you my man

[Nine-TailedSage_Naruto]

hmm nice theory...

though im sure i read this theory in a prediction by Numinious. here's his prediction :

[SPOILER]Status: PREDICTION
by: Numinous

Naruto 479: Momentum Shift

(Madara Scene)
Madara: (thinking) Izanagi, a technique that brings the user back to life with the sacrifice of a Sharingan. Normally, an Uchiha would only be able to use it twice before he was rendered useless. Heck, when I sacrificed my left eye to survive the battle againt Hashirama it took a great toll on my powers… but I guess he takes little damage from the jutsu because the Sharigan on his arm are exogenous to his body. But I wonder, how did Danzou acknowledge and mastered such kinjutsu? He must’ve read the tablets in the Naka Shrine… I must admit, I underestimated him and his knowledge about the Uchiha clan…

(Sakura Scene)
(Kiba sniffs the air)
Kiba: I caught Sasuke’s scent! (Sakura looks shocked)
Lee: Yosh!
Sai: …
Kiba: But it seems that Danzou and that masked Akatsuki are near him. Should we still go after Sasuke?
Sakura: Yes. We won’t give up now.
Kiba: You’re the one calling the shots… follow me!
Sakura: (thinking) Sasuke, what are you doing?

(Mei Scene)
(Mei, Ao and Choujuurou arrive to a tree’s branch, near Sasuke’s location)
Ao: As I told you, Sasuke is with him, Mizukage-sama.
Mei: I see. What is that involving Sasuke?
Ao: It seems like a chakra entity, but I’m more worried about Danzou, he finally revealed his true colors. See that face on his shoulders?! It’s Uchiha Shisui’s face.
Mei: (shocked) Oh my…
Choujuurou: What happened to his guards?
Mei: (points at Madara, in the opposite side) I think Madara took care of them.
Ao: I still can’t believe he’s alive, but I trust your word…
Choujuurou: So, what should we do about Danzou?
Mei: I think we should wait until they separate. We don’t know what Madara is capable of, so let’s focus only in Danzou.

(Sasuke Scene)
Danzou: (thinking) I have only six Sharingan left and my jutsu has been figured out. This fight is all about endurance, so I must take the initiative.
Sasuke: (breathing heavily; thinking) This is going nowhere, I need to take him out before I run out of chakra...
(Susano’o shoots another arrow; Danzou performs a Tiger handseal combined with an Ox handseal)
Danzou: Doton: Earth Style Wall!
(an earthen wall rises in front of Danzou; the arrow is slowed by the wall; Sasuke jumps to the bridge, with Susano’o around him)

Karin: Sasuke, you didn’t hit him, beware! (the wall crumbles, revealing an intact Danzou in the middle of the dust)
Danzou: (thinking) That sensor type girl is such a nuisance. (he jumps to a pilar; Sasuke performs a Tiger handseal; still thinking)
Sasuke: Katon: Gouryuuka no Jutsu!* (the dragon flies towards Danzou)
Danzou: So

[zerosameri]

thats a pretty soild theory but isn;t their a jutsu juts like that. Durring the Zabuza arc when Haku hit Zabuza in the neck with a needle, he was thought to be dead. Even kakashi though he was dead.

Madara had the EMS at the time when he fout the 1st Haokage and it give the use imortaity depending on the user useing it. So maybe the 1st didn't know that Madara had it, but i don't think the 1st would of saw Madara dead, because the 1st died durring war. And Madara was still alive and known through out the village befor and at the 2nd grat Ninja war. If Madara was saposly dead when he fought the 1st then when Minato was fighting Madara/the Nine-tails wouldn't Minato be serpized bye the fact that he's a live? Madara was consider dead right after the 2nd Great Ninja war, so how could of he been dead when he fought the 1st. (well after that war was over)

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but like I said thats a good theory.

[Deadman 8234]

[QUOTE=Nine-TailedSage_Naruto;2263763]hmm nice theory...

though im sure i read this theory in a prediction by Numinious. here's his prediction :

[SPOILER]Status: PREDICTION
by: Numinous

Naruto 479: Momentum Shift

(Madara Scene)
Madara: (thinking) Izanagi, a technique that brings the user back to life with the sacrifice of a Sharingan. Normally, an Uchiha would only be able to use it twice before he was rendered useless. Heck, when I sacrificed my left eye to survive the battle againt Hashirama it took a great toll on my powers

[Vatanui AKA Pride]

A nice solid theory, man.

[toad]

Originally Posted by zerosameri

thats a pretty soild theory but isn;t their a jutsu juts like that. Durring the Zabuza arc when Haku hit Zabuza in the neck with a needle, he was thought to be dead. Even kakashi though he was dead.

Madara had the EMS at the time when he fout the 1st Haokage and it give the use imortaity depending on the user useing it. So maybe the 1st didn't know that Madara had it, but i don't think the 1st would of saw Madara dead, because the 1st died durring war. And Madara was still alive and known through out the village befor and at the 2nd grat Ninja war. If Madara was saposly dead when he fought the 1st then when Minato was fighting Madara/the Nine-tails wouldn't Minato be serpized bye the fact that he's a live? Madara was consider dead right after the 2nd Great Ninja war, so how could of he been dead when he fought the 1st. (well after that war was over)

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but like I said thats a good theory.

in the zabuza arc wen he was hit with a needle by haku kakashi knew he wasnt dead becuase as a former anu kakashi knows asassines strikle in vital areas and the neck wasnt and so kakashi saw through haku's deception

[Leafy]

I like this theory, explains alot

[Hidden Ninja45]

Spoiler:

I thought has Danzo got Izanagi because of something to do with Orochimaru. If that were true, then either Madara couldn't of had Izanagi at that point, or Madara got Izangi some other way.