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Old 08-09-2010, 03:02 PM   #1
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I'm wondering how people want to handle it now that it's a completely different Bankai.

Are we still saying that it's Mach 500? Can it still extend 13KM? Do I still think Gin is one of the only respectable characters in Bleach?

Let me know what you think. Obviously he can now one shot basically anyone, but how quickly and from how far away are we saying he can?
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He was lying about it being Mach 500 and 13km, so.
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But it's still incredibly fast and has massive range. It took out a city block in less than a second. That's still something to be impressed with.
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Gin's bankai is mach .000000000000000500. My grandmother dodged it with 2 bad knees and a bad ankle. Gin suxs!

But, I know it is not Mach 500, and the fact that anyone beleived it is ridiculous and should be given 175 lashings. Although it was cool when it destroyed da city block, so it does have alot of power and speed, just not as much as it was said too.
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I think it's incredibly fast and can grow at a long length, but that's really it. I was surprised what he said during the last chapter. How that single part of his blade was able to do all that.
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I personally never believed that it was Mach 500. This is because I took it to be hyperbole just like any other similar statement. To add on the idea that Gin was lying and it's blatantly obvious that either it's not Mach 500, or Kubo has some strange way of writing that he does. People laughed at Cell busting solar systems, but I think people were too quick to believe this one.

As for how competent Gin is, we still know he was strong enough to toy with Ichigo and to do so well despite clearly holding back and never taking any kill-shots. Until the new chapter comes out though, we won't know if the whole Gin issue will be expanded upon though.
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Old 08-09-2010, 03:14 PM   #7
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I think it's incredibly fast and can grow at a long length, but that's really it. I was surprised what he said during the last chapter. How that single part of his blade was able to do all that.
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@1st: Agreed that it's still fast and whatnot, and also that Mach 500 was ridiculous. With that in mind, Bankai Ichigo was basically outpaced by his Bankai, and it also packed some serious punch.

With that said, it's still easily hypersonic in speed, as well as multi-building busting + in attack strength. Below Mach 500? Definitely. City block busting? Not so much. 13 KM? Definitely less, but as to how much less is uncertain. It's definitely the LENGTH of a city block, or at least thereabouts.

The poison only applies to Reaitsu based beings at the moment as well, so that's another up in the air topic.
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^What SotSP said. Even though he lied about it, that doesn't change the fact that it still can extend and contract incredibly fast, has good range and destructive capabilities, and as a bonus, if a bit of it is stuck in your chest, Gin can blow your ass up.
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Isn't Multi Building+ busting basically the equivalent to at least small city block busting? And that was Gin holding back.

The next chapter may kill everything and leave us in the dust, so hopefully things go well, otherwise the issue with Gin may remain unsolved.
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Holding back he may have been, but we have to use what feats have been given to us.

Another issue I have with his Bankai: exactly what is the purpose of it turning to dust and reforming? When does it turn to dust? For how long? Etc.q
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@1st: Agreed that it's still fast and whatnot, and also that Mach 500 was ridiculous. With that in mind, Bankai Ichigo was basically outpaced by his Bankai, and it also packed some serious punch.

With that said, it's still easily hypersonic in speed, as well as multi-building busting + in attack strength. Below Mach 500? Definitely. City block busting? Not so much. 13 KM? Definitely less, but as to how much less is uncertain. It's definitely the LENGTH of a city block, or at least thereabouts.

The poison only applies to Reaitsu based beings at the moment as well, so that's another up in the air topic.

Yeah, the plot is getting a little weird. Like now Idk what's up with Aizen now that "That" has happened in the chapter.
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The speed of the bankai has nothing to do with the fact that Giun was able to level a bunch of buildings with it. All that proves is that it's very sharp and that Gin can manipulate it like any normal sword even when it's at full length.

Destroying a bunch of buildings one after the other isn't the same thing as Multi-building busting. You have to be able to destroy multiple buildings all at once.
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The speed of the bankai has nothing to do with the fact that Giun was able to level a bunch of buildings with it. All that proves is that it's very sharp and that Gin can manipulate it like any normal sword even when it's at full length.

Destroying a bunch of buildings one after the other isn't the same thing as Multi-building busting. You have to be able to destroy multiple buildings all at once.
Considering the fact he destroyed them before Ichigo could react, that's close enough to "all at once" to be considered MBB.

Regardless, being able to level a single building in less than a second still puts him near the top of the Bleach tier list.

And nobody said that his Bankai speed had anything to do with the attack. Everyone knows he can't swing it any faster than a normal sword. It's the extension speed I'm referring to when I'm talking about his Bankai speed.
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Of course, when he extended it and used it to destroy all those buildings, was that the max length?

Or is it possible that his bankai can extend much longer, he just chose not to stretch it that far.
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Another issue I have with his Bankai: exactly what is the purpose of it turning to dust and reforming? When does it turn to dust? For how long? Etc.q
With the whole poison and dust issue, it becomes blatantly obvious that Gin never went for the kill, or he would have done just that. Adding on the fact that Gin never took him seriously, encouraged him to run away, and was able to surprise attack Aizen (who only survived due to random Plotkai boosts), and it's evident that even without hype, Gin is among the strongest.

Whether or not this will be given more attention is yet to be seen. Kubo may just troll Gin.
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With the whole poison and dust issue, it becomes blatantly obvious that Gin never went for the kill, or he would have done just that. Adding on the fact that Gin never took him seriously, encouraged him to run away, and was able to surprise attack Aizen (who only survived due to random Plotkai boosts), and it's evident that even without hype, Gin is among the strongest.

Whether or not this will be given more attention is yet to be seen. Kubo may just troll Gin.
Yeah, this is what's going to happen in a nut shell. Gin will be considered one of the strongest shinigami now, but will prolly die as soon as Ichigo comes in to fight Aizen to make sure that Ichigo becomes the total bad-ass.
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Gin was anticlimatic.
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I don't think Kubo is dumb enough to kill of Gin from the story.. What am I saying he had Aizen kill the captains with just Shikai...

Anyway it may not move as fast are extend that fast but still what we saw was no fluke. Gins bankai us still pretty damn fast for him to toy around like that with it. And also proves that he could of been killed ichigo if he wanted to.
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Aizen is a butterfly. What else can you expect from Gin now?
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