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Ok, remember in Chapter 500 when Kushina tells Naruto about being from the Land of Whirlpools. If you look at the map it just so happens to be where the present day Land of Waves is now located. Remember who was once the big cheese of the Land of Waves...that's right: the one, the only, the Gato.
In Chapter 450 we saw Old Man Tazuna and his Grandson Inari once more. It seemed like one of those "catch up" moments. See how old characters are doing. But it may be more than just that. The story is coming full circle. Could it possibly be...that Gato was working with Madara? Yes. I know Gato had his own agenda of becoming a shipping tycoon. But who's to say that he wasn't in league with Madara (or at the very least the Mizukage side of Madara). For those who say that he couldn't have been working with Madara since he had Zabuza and Haku working for him but let's not forget that Gato betrayed Zabuza as he had planned all along. Madara and Gato could have allied together for the same goal. Preventing the Great Naruto Bridge from being built. Ok, so we know why Gato didn't want the bridge build (and hence why he wanted Tazuna dead) because he wanted a complete monopoly over the shipping industry. But what about Madara? It seems that whenever there is a genocide...Madara isn't far behind. The Uchiha Clan was wiped out by not only Itachi but also Madara. Madara was once Mizukage and very likely the Fourth Mizukage De Facto so he probably started the whole Bloody Mist Village and also the elimination of Haku and Kimmimaro's Clan. Then we find out that the Uzumaki Clan was virtually wiped out because their sealing jutsu was quite feared. But wiped out by who? I'm guessing the Hidden Mist while Madara was the Fourth Mizukage De Facto. Madara didn't want a bridge built either because he didn't want the truth to be known. Both the Land of Rain, and the Land of Water were once completely isolated from the rest of the ninja world. Both these places were major hideouts of the Akatsuki. Madara wanted the Land of Waves isolated so the truth wouldn't get out. So what about Zabuza? Zabuza was once of the Seven Swordsman of the Hidden Mist. I actually think he was always a good guy all along. I think Zabuza found out about Kisame being in the Akatsuki which was led by the Fourth Mizukage. Zabuza made a grave error in thinking that Yagura, the Three Tails was the true Fourth Mizukage when in actuality his enemy was the Fourth Mizukage De Facto: Madara Uchiha. Instead of trying to capture Zabuza himself and risk revealing his true identity to the ninja world, Madara secretly joined hands with Gato (probably as the Mizukage) and it was arranged that Zabuza and Haku would work for Gato and prevent the bridge from being built. Once the job was done, they would then be eliminated. Gato and Madara were in league together to destroy the bridge. Gato wanted total control over the shipping industry Madara wanted the truth kept hidden.
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Makes sense. I mean now we know for sure that kishi hasn't done a single thing randomly. Even the crack on third's face has an explanation now. So Zabuza rebelling right when 4th mizukage was ruling hidden mist has to be important to the story.
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actually....sounds good, could be true
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Great theory
+Rep :] However, Im not sure if Kishi would bring Gato back into the story. For the simple reason that he died so long ago. |
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Gato is dead. It's just that Volumes 1-4 are going to mean a lot more now.
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Gato, maybe. Kishimoto did bring Zabuza sword back into play much later.
I would still be hesitant to say the land of Whirlpools is the same as the lland of Waves. Could there have been a pact between Madara and Gato easily. However, I think what we will see and is in your theory is a deeper explanation about the failed coup d'tat. That is something that needs explanation and could be pretty interesting since it is almost a certainty that Madara was in control at the time. However, I think Zabuza still pretty evil, and I don't think he attempted the assassination for any reason beyond personal.
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I think Zabuza had his own set of moral rules. Whereas someone like Madara has no rules whatsoever.
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Hmm, I thinks that's backwards. Zabuza has no moral rules. Madara has his view on life that he follows. Although, Madara's hatred and bearing of grudges knows no bounds.
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Although Long, but it was worth reading.
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Disagree. Zabuza has morals...otherwise it wouldn't be possible for him to feel guilty about Haku's death which in the end he did. He even cried about it. You're not going to see that happen with Madara. Ever. Madara is evil. Period.
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This would be great to see Zabuza again and to find out he's still a badass and learn his motives so awesome I like mr!!!
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(Naruto will be the one to defeat Kisame.) I sense an epic flashback fight: Kisame the Traitorous Akatsuki Seventh Swordsman of the Hidden Mist vs Zabuza the Six Other Swordsman of the Hidden Mist.
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Hmm... You really thought this through...
However... It does make sense... It could be true! I mean...creating one big plot is typical something for Madara! |
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Madara: I manipulated Mizuki...and created ALL THE FILLERS!
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sounds logical, but after the whole zabuza arc was done, wouldnt madara have done something about the bridge though?
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Madara was trying to keep it on the down low so he probably thought that keeping the bridge was less risky than going out of his way to destroy it. With Gato around, everyone would think it was for money.
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This is a good idea. I would rep you, but for some reason it says the last person I repped was you so I have to spread it around. I'll get back to it once I rep someone else. I never thought about this, though. Shows how much free time a true Naruto fan has. XD
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You're welcome. I'm always in a good mood. XD No, seriously.
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It's no biggie for the rep. Really just reading and posting is pretty cool.
Getting rep is more like a bonus.
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