my naruto theories and facts that i will need help on

[yarduatssss]

ok so im new too the site so please forgive me if i post this in the wrong category.
i created a text doctument did lots of thinking and typing *5 hrs worth but its not alot of writing*

Spoiler:

i was wanting too know what kabutomarus and madaras plot is

so i wrote down question and looked around and thought deeply and narrowed down the answers this is by far the most work ive done on an anime plot line *since the days i watched "case closed" any ways in other words i used too pause the dvd and work everything out too figure out who the culprit is and i used the same method everytime and always got it right even though it would take alot of time*

my purpose for this thread is to get as many theories as possible
also id like to eliminate my own possibilities/theories *the ones that dont make sense or the ones that have too many flaws with everyones help of course.

the key too the chart is at the bottom of the post if you dont understand it.

Spoiler:

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if madara isnt tobi who could he be?
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shisui:
no, his right arm and eye was transplanted to Danzo. if he was shizui and he was missing an arm then he couldve went too obitos body and took one of his arms but im pretty sure obitos corpse has rotted too the bone by now.

obito:No,
crushed by bolder. and during the uchiha clans destruction madara couldve had any "body"

madara: very possible but he would have to be using a different body because he would be dead from old age.

itachi:no, its too laughable.

sasuke: no, its too laughable

pein:no, madara goes too peins corpse and takes his rinegan eye.

orochimaru:no, orochimaru was burned too death

madara doesnt have a body and he is a spirit: although that would explain how no ones attacks hit him but the madara is wearing an akatsuki uniform and has pins in his body.



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who did kabuto summon that could make tobi so mad?:
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the real madara: very possible.

obito: no, wouldnt be of much use due too bolder.

itachi: no, already resurected

pein: no, already resurected

orochimaru: no, but he might resurect him later on.

madaras brother: no, he wouldnt be of any use as his eyes are gone.


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why would tobi be so mad about who kabuto resurected?
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kabuto summoned some one more powerfull than madara?:
maybe. kabuto said he perfected the resurection jutsu past what orochimaru was able to, so it is possible that kabuto found a way too get the 4th hokages soul from the shimigami. *maybe shimigami lost a poker bet*
but if that is true than why would madara fear him as if hes been alive all this time and has perfected the fourth hokages jutsu then he wouldnt be that scared so it would have too be someone even more powerful than the fourth hokage.

kabuto summoned the real madara?: possible, but holds the least amount of water, as the madara couldve had any "body" he wanted too from the uchiha clan so believing this would revive the obito theory so this isnt very likely.

kabuto summond 4th hokage?:no, the 4th's soul is sealed.

kabuto summoned the sage of 6 paths:
if kabuto did this then he could meet his goal and get sasuke at anytime that he wants so if he did summon the sage of 6 paths then kabuto must be lying about his goal
and most likely has a different goal.


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WHO DID KABUTO SUMMON CONCLUSION:
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KABUTO either sommoned the SAGE OF 6 PATHS or MINATO THE 4TH HOKAGE.
minato is still unlikley due to you can not summon a sealed soul.



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what we know about kabuto.
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kabuto has been orochimarus henchmen since he was a kid and like haku he is looking for a purpose, kabuto also thinks of him self as a tool but unlike haku kabutos role is too plan and even do orochimarus dirty work for him. kabuto is constantly thinking.
if orochimaru is too die then kabutos purpose is gone.
sewed orochmarus skin on too his and he said its been trying too take controll of him and hinata said that it has taken over 1/3 of his body.
has told naruto that throught his life he has been searching for a purpose and thanked him and when orochimaru died kabuto felt as if he lost his identity.
kabuto has lead a trail too madaras hideout and has also resurected the akatsuki.
and he said he wants sasuke when the war is over.


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CONCLUSION NO JUTSU!:
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kabuto is becoming orochimaru because of his identity crysis he wants sasuke because orochimaru wanted sasuke and kabuto will probably try too take over sasukes body.
he lead a trail too the madaras hideout so he could expose the madara with out giving him self away.
orochimaru wasnt sealed by the susanoo, around episode 143 and in the manga *i forget what chapter and page*
before orochimaru was sealed he turned into a snake and escaped but was burned too death by the ameretsu black flames.
this means that orochimaru's soul can be summond.
why would kabuto start perfecting the resurecting jutsu?
why wouldnt he try too perfect other jutsu instead?
why would he sew orochimarus dna onto him?
why would he need ankos body too resurect someone?
ill explain.
orochimarus body was sealed but not his soul, kabuto sewed orochimarus dna on too his skin and its taken control on accident, orochimarus dna knows that orochimarus soul can be summond but he doesnt have a body so hes going too use kabutos body in order too reincarnate him self, but in order too do this he will need more than just a soul and body he will need a spirit and hes going too use that cursemark that anko has. kabuto wants sasuke so he can put orochimaru in sasukes body like orochimaru wanted, and with the madara on his side and all of the resurected akatsuki members nothing can stop him.

heres my opinion on this.
masashi kishimoto said in an interview that anko is his favorite character so he must be planning somthing big for her.

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what if kabuto was really orochimaru pretending to be kabuto?

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maybe the skin has taken over kabuto?: this is were the answer is, and this is were the answer will be even if the possiblity isnt in question form.




if anyone has any trouble reading this chart i will make a different one that is easier and should be very easy to do

[Uchiha_Itachi93]

Originally Posted by yarduatssss

ok so im new too the site so please forgive me if i post this in the wrong category.
i created a text doctument did lots of thinking and typing *5 hrs worth but its not alot of writing*

Spoiler:

i was wanting too know what kabutomarus and madaras plot is

so i wrote down question and looked around and thought deeply and narrowed down the answers this is by far the most work ive done on an anime plot line *since the days i watched "case closed" any ways in other words i used too pause the dvd and work everything out too figure out who the culprit is and i used the same method everytime and always got it right even though it would take alot of time*

my purpose for this thread is to get as many theories as possible
also id like to eliminate my own possibilities/theories *the ones that dont make sense or the ones that have too many flaws with everyones help of course.

the key too the chart is at the bottom of the post if you dont understand it.

Spoiler:

____________________________________

if madara isnt tobi who could he be?
____________________________________
shisui:
no, his right arm and eye was transplanted to Danzo. if he was shizui and he was missing an arm then he couldve went too obitos body and took one of his arms but im pretty sure obitos corpse has rotted too the bone by now.

obito:No,
crushed by bolder. and during the uchiha clans destruction madara couldve had any "body"

madara: very possible but he would have to be using a different body because he would be dead from old age.

itachi:no, its too laughable.

sasuke: no, its too laughable

pein:no, madara goes too peins corpse and takes his rinegan eye.

orochimaru:no, orochimaru was burned too death

madara doesnt have a body and he is a spirit: although that would explain how no ones attacks hit him but the madara is wearing an akatsuki uniform and has pins in his body.



__________________________________________

who did kabuto summon that could make tobi so mad?:
___________________________________________
the real madara: very possible.

obito: no, wouldnt be of much use due too bolder.

itachi: no, already resurected

pein: no, already resurected

orochimaru: no, but he might resurect him later on.

madaras brother: no, he wouldnt be of any use as his eyes are gone.


___________________________________________

why would tobi be so mad about who kabuto resurected?
___________________________________________
kabuto summoned some one more powerfull than madara?:
maybe. kabuto said he perfected the resurection jutsu past what orochimaru was able to, so it is possible that kabuto found a way too get the 4th hokages soul from the shimigami. *maybe shimigami lost a poker bet*
but if that is true than why would madara fear him as if hes been alive all this time and has perfected the fourth hokages jutsu then he wouldnt be that scared so it would have too be someone even more powerful than the fourth hokage.

kabuto summoned the real madara?: possible, but holds the least amount of water, as the madara couldve had any "body" he wanted too from the uchiha clan so believing this would revive the obito theory so this isnt very likely.

kabuto summond 4th hokage?:no, the 4th's soul is sealed.

kabuto summoned the sage of 6 paths:
if kabuto did this then he could meet his goal and get sasuke at anytime that he wants so if he did summon the sage of 6 paths then kabuto must be lying about his goal
and most likely has a different goal.


_____________________________________
WHO DID KABUTO SUMMON CONCLUSION:
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KABUTO either sommoned the SAGE OF 6 PATHS or MINATO THE 4TH HOKAGE.
minato is still unlikley due to you can not summon a sealed soul.



__________________________________________________ ______
what we know about kabuto.
__________________________________________________ ______
kabuto has been orochimarus henchmen since he was a kid and like haku he is looking for a purpose, kabuto also thinks of him self as a tool but unlike haku kabutos role is too plan and even do orochimarus dirty work for him. kabuto is constantly thinking.
if orochimaru is too die then kabutos purpose is gone.
sewed orochmarus skin on too his and he said its been trying too take controll of him and hinata said that it has taken over 1/3 of his body.
has told naruto that throught his life he has been searching for a purpose and thanked him and when orochimaru died kabuto felt as if he lost his identity.
kabuto has lead a trail too madaras hideout and has also resurected the akatsuki.
and he said he wants sasuke when the war is over.


__________________________________
CONCLUSION NO JUTSU!:
__________________________________

kabuto is becoming orochimaru because of his identity crysis he wants sasuke because orochimaru wanted sasuke and kabuto will probably try too take over sasukes body.
he lead a trail too the madaras hideout so he could expose the madara with out giving him self away.
orochimaru wasnt sealed by the susanoo, around episode 143 and in the manga *i forget what chapter and page*
before orochimaru was sealed he turned into a snake and escaped but was burned too death by the ameretsu black flames.
this means that orochimaru's soul can be summond.
why would kabuto start perfecting the resurecting jutsu?
why wouldnt he try too perfect other jutsu instead?
why would he sew orochimarus dna onto him?
why would he need ankos body too resurect someone?
ill explain.
orochimarus body was sealed but not his soul, kabuto sewed orochimarus dna on too his skin and its taken control on accident, orochimarus dna knows that orochimarus soul can be summond but he doesnt have a body so hes going too use kabutos body in order too reincarnate him self, but in order too do this he will need more than just a soul and body he will need a spirit and hes going too use that cursemark that anko has. kabuto wants sasuke so he can put orochimaru in sasukes body like orochimaru wanted, and with the madara on his side and all of the resurected akatsuki members nothing can stop him.

heres my opinion on this.
masashi kishimoto said in an interview that anko is his favorite character so he must be planning somthing big for her.

__________________________________________________ ___________________



KEY OF THE DATA CHART ABOVE :


questions will look like this.


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QUESTION:

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possibilities and/or answers will look like this


possibility:

possibility:

possibility:



the out come is this



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example: this is the question

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possibility: possibilities and/or answers will be here

possibility: possibilities and/or answers will be here

possibility: possibilities and/or answers will be here

ect


some or most of the possiblilities will be in question form
the answer will be beside the possiblility

like this


__________________________________________________ __


what if kabuto was really orochimaru pretending to be kabuto?

__________________________________________________ __


maybe the skin has taken over kabuto?: this is were the answer is, and this is were the answer will be even if the possiblity isnt in question form.




if anyone has any trouble reading this chart i will make a different one that is easier and should be very easy to do

Ok wow, that was alot, but you do hit on some very good points. As for Madara's true identity, he is Madara Uchiha. He was said to be immortal, so while he can die from physical attacks, gaining the EMS probably granted him immortality. He couldn't be anyone else.

Who did Kabuto summon? who knows, I doubt it was Minato, or the sage of 6 paths. As he needs the actually corpse to revive them.

As for Kabuto wanting Sasuke because he is becoming like Oro, this I'm not sure of. It would not really make sense. I would think the power that Kabuto has right now one might think that he would not need to transfer bodies.

With Anko, Kabuto said that he was saving her so that he could increase his power becase she has the curse mark. I highly doubt that she will die though. My own theroy is that Anko will be the key into stopping Kabuto and his plan.

[yarduatssss]

Originally Posted by Uchiha_Itachi93

Ok wow, that was alot, but you do hit on some very good points. As for Madara's true identity, he is Madara Uchiha. He was said to be immortal, so while he can die from physical attacks, gaining the EMS probably granted him immortality. He couldn't be anyone else.

Who did Kabuto summon? who knows, I doubt it was Minato, or the sage of 6 paths. As he needs the actually corpse to revive them.

As for Kabuto wanting Sasuke because he is becoming like Oro, this I'm not sure of. It would not really make sense. I would think the power that Kabuto has right now one might think that he would not need to transfer bodies.

With Anko, Kabuto said that he was saving her so that he could increase his power becase she has the curse mark. I highly doubt that she will die though. My own theroy is that Anko will be the key into stopping Kabuto and his plan.

just thought of somthing.


kabuto wants too lear the secrets behind jutsu.
now what great technique do we all love and know that gives the user the ability too see through jutsu and making it there own aka copying.
the sharingan.
kabuto isnt after sasuke hes after his sharingan.


orochimaru has taken over so many bodies its not funny so that tells me that at last second when oro was about too be sealed he could have used a different body instead, then switched out and transformed into a snake.
when oro gets summond back he will be in snake form.
then he will let the snake inside ankos body and allow it too feed on the cursemark untill its strong enough too take over ankos body then we will have flash back time too where orochmaru said that anko was no use too him and then oro will try too talk her in too allowing him too take control by saying "now you are useful too me ect"


in the end when naruto fights sasuke i believe that naruto will use what itachi gave him and more than likely it was a seal and it will seal sasuke