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Old 06-10-2010, 10:38 AM   #1
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Well how fast is the jutsu?
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So far it's the fastest moving object in the entire series. It easily outstrips Raikage in terms of speed. That puts it at around Mach 7, possibly higher.
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Can we link to scans of naruto manga?
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No, but you can post the chapter and page number[s] and we can look it up.
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Chapter 442, pages 7 and 8

You can see the FRS is only around 20 Cm away there, and it's clear Pein would have to jump at least one meter to avoid it by the time it reaches him. This makes a quick calc very easy.

We'll assume 20 cm is correct, and assuming FRS moves at a hilariously slow sound speed...

.2 m / 343 m/s = .00058 s (Time he has to dodge)

It's easy to see Pein would need to jump at least a meter to avoid getting his legs chopped off, so jumping a meter in that time frame:

1 / .00058 s = 1,724.14 m/s (Speed needed to dodge)

And that's only using a very, very low speed for FRS.

Now call me an idiot to believe Deva paths is low hypersonic or better. Once again, this is using the very slow speed of Supersonic.
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I believe he used Shinra Tensei to propel himself out of harm's way, which gives him short bursts of insane speed.
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I believe he used Shinra Tensei to propel himself out of harm's way, which gives him short bursts of insane speed.
O rly? Honestly I don't know if he used it or not, but if he didn't, then Deva path is hypersonic.
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I've calced it before, it's around Mach 7, like Sixxy said. Please don't have be post my math, just got out of school and my last subject was in fact, math....
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I've calced it before, it's around Mach 7, like Sixxy said. Please don't have be post my math, just got out of school and my last subject was in fact, math....
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Not hypersonic. Just hypersonic reactions. Which is reasonable, especially with his Rinnegan hype.
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Watching the Anime, the jutsu took 32 seconds to make it across 15 meters, you can tell the anime was put it in slow motion, doubling the time, so you cut 32 in half you get 16. So the jutsu traveled 15 meters in 16 seconds.

15 meters at 16 seconds
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3.125 feet per second
187.5 feet per minute
11,250 feet per hour = 2.1 miles per hour
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if you cut 32 in half by 3, you get 10.66666666666667
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4.687499999999999 feet per second
281.2499999999999 feet per minute
16874.99999999999 feet per hour = 3.1 miles per hour
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if you cut it in half by 4 you get 8
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6.25 feet per second
375 feet per minute
22,500 feet per hour = 4.2 miles per hour
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if you cut 32 in half by 5, you get 15 meters in 6.4 seconds
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7.8125 feet per second
468.75 feet per minute
28,125 feet per hour = 5.3 miles per hour
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cut 32 in half by 6 you get 5.3
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9.4 feet per second
566 feet per minute
33962 feet per hour = 6.4 miles per hour
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cut it in half by 7 you get 4.5 seconds to cross 15 meters.
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11.1 feet per second
666.6 feet per minute
40,000 feet per hour = 7.5 miles per hour
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cut it in half by 8 you get 4
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12.5 feet per second
750 feet per minute
45000 feet per hour = 8.5 miles per hour
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if you cut it in half by 9 you get 3.5
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14.2 feet per second
857.1 feet per minute
51428.5 feet per hour = 9.7 miles per hour
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They would have had to cut 32 in half by 31 for the jutsu to have made it there in 1 second.

50 feet per second
3000 feet per minute
180000 feet per hour = 34 miles per hour

doing the math its impossible for the jutsu to be hypersonic far from it.
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Watching the Anime, the jutsu took 32 seconds to make it across 15 meters, you can tell the anime was put it in slow motion, doubling the time, so you cut 32 in half you get 16. So the jutsu traveled 15 meters in 16 seconds.

15 meters at 16 seconds
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3.125 feet per second
187.5 feet per minute
11,250 feet per hour = 2.1 miles per hour
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if you cut 32 in half by 3, you get 10.66666666666667
---------------------------------------------------
4.687499999999999 feet per second
281.2499999999999 feet per minute
16874.99999999999 feet per hour = 3.1 miles per hour
---------------------------------------------------
if you cut it in half by 4 you get 8
---------------------------------------------------
6.25 feet per second
375 feet per minute
22,500 feet per hour = 4.2 miles per hour
--------------------------------------------------
if you cut 32 in half by 5, you get 15 meters in 6.4 seconds
--------------------------------------------------------
7.8125 feet per second
468.75 feet per minute
28,125 feet per hour = 5.3 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut 32 in half by 6 you get 5.3
-------------------------------------------------------
9.4 feet per second
566 feet per minute
33962 feet per hour = 6.4 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut it in half by 7 you get 4.5 seconds to cross 15 meters.
-------------------------------------------------------
11.1 feet per second
666.6 feet per minute
40,000 feet per hour = 7.5 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut it in half by 8 you get 4
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12.5 feet per second
750 feet per minute
45000 feet per hour = 8.5 miles per hour
-----------------------------------------------------
if you cut it in half by 9 you get 3.5
-----------------------------------------------------
14.2 feet per second
857.1 feet per minute
51428.5 feet per hour = 9.7 miles per hour
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They would have had to cut 32 in half by 31 for the jutsu to have made it there in 1 second.

50 feet per second
3000 feet per minute
180000 feet per hour = 34 miles per hour

doing the math its impossible for the jutsu to be hypersonic far from it.
That's nice and all, but if it's the anime....well, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm gonna say.

I haven't calced it myself, but from what I heard it's from upper supersonic to lower hypersonic.
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Watching the Anime, the jutsu took 32 seconds to make it across 15 meters, you can tell the anime was put it in slow motion, doubling the time, so you cut 32 in half you get 16. So the jutsu traveled 15 meters in 16 seconds.

15 meters at 16 seconds
----------------------------
3.125 feet per second
187.5 feet per minute
11,250 feet per hour = 2.1 miles per hour
--------------------------------------
if you cut 32 in half by 3, you get 10.66666666666667
---------------------------------------------------
4.687499999999999 feet per second
281.2499999999999 feet per minute
16874.99999999999 feet per hour = 3.1 miles per hour
---------------------------------------------------
if you cut it in half by 4 you get 8
---------------------------------------------------
6.25 feet per second
375 feet per minute
22,500 feet per hour = 4.2 miles per hour
--------------------------------------------------
if you cut 32 in half by 5, you get 15 meters in 6.4 seconds
--------------------------------------------------------
7.8125 feet per second
468.75 feet per minute
28,125 feet per hour = 5.3 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut 32 in half by 6 you get 5.3
-------------------------------------------------------
9.4 feet per second
566 feet per minute
33962 feet per hour = 6.4 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut it in half by 7 you get 4.5 seconds to cross 15 meters.
-------------------------------------------------------
11.1 feet per second
666.6 feet per minute
40,000 feet per hour = 7.5 miles per hour
-------------------------------------------------------
cut it in half by 8 you get 4
------------------------------------------------------
12.5 feet per second
750 feet per minute
45000 feet per hour = 8.5 miles per hour
-----------------------------------------------------
if you cut it in half by 9 you get 3.5
-----------------------------------------------------
14.2 feet per second
857.1 feet per minute
51428.5 feet per hour = 9.7 miles per hour
----------------------------------------------------

They would have had to cut 32 in half by 31 for the jutsu to have made it there in 1 second.

50 feet per second
3000 feet per minute
180000 feet per hour = 34 miles per hour

doing the math its impossible for the jutsu to be hypersonic far from it.

Honestly,
I think you just made half of those figures up to make your point seem more valid.

You can't trust the anime,
period.
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That's nice and all, but if it's the anime....well, I'm pretty sure you know what I'm gonna say.

I haven't calced it myself, but from what I heard it's from upper supersonic to lower hypersonic.
its impossible, Naruto was 50 feet away from the paths and even if the jutsu traveled 50 in 0.1 seconds that would make the jutsu's speed at 500 feet per second, 30,000 feet per minute and 1,800,000 feet per hour.

1,800,000 feet per hour = 340 mph (not Hypersonic)

If you look at them you can tell there about 50 feet away, and the greatness speed the jutsu could of had from there is 218 mph.

lets say they were 100 feet away!

100 feet in 0.1 seconds
1000 feet per second
60,000 feet per minute
3,600,000 feet per hour

3,600,000 = 681 mph (not Supersonic or Hypersonic)

Now you can tell there no more then 100 feet away they barely look 50 feet away.

by that you have your speed and No not from the anime.
(lets face it the jutsu didnt make it there in 0.1 seconds)

So the jutsu is nowhere near hypersonic!!!!
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its impossible, Naruto was 50 feet away from the paths and even if the jutsu traveled 50 in 0.1 seconds that would make the jutsu's speed at 500 feet per second, 30,000 feet per minute and 1,800,000 feet per hour.

1,800,000 feet per hour = 340 mph (not Hypersonic)

If you look at them you can tell there about 50 feet away, and the greatness speed the jutsu could of had from there is 218 mph.

lets say they were 100 feet away!

100 feet in 0.1 seconds
1000 feet per second
60,000 feet per minute
3,600,000 feet per hour

3,600,000 = 681 mph (not Supersonic or Hypersonic)

Now you can tell there no more then 100 feet away they barely look 50 feet away.

by that you have your speed and No not from the anime.
(lets face it the jutsu didnt make it there in 0.1 seconds)

So the jutsu is nowhere near hypersonic!!!!
None of this is valid as it is based off of the anime which is non cannon.

Until you come up with an ample calc from the manga this won't even be taken into consideration.
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Honestly,
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You can't trust the anime,
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Amen. Atleast my calc. made sense.
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Honestly,
I think you just made half of those figures up to make your point seem more valid.

You can't trust the anime,
period.
Do the math your self!

50 feet per second is 34mph

I'll break it down for you if you cant.

50 per second, there is 60 seconds in a minute. 50x60=3,000
3,000 feet per minute, there is 60 minutes in a hour. 3,000x60=180,000
180,000 feet per hour, there is 5280 feet in a mile. 180,000/5280=34.0909090909

do the math you'll see i'm right. if there is one thing I know it would be math.
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None of this is valid as it is based off of the anime which is non cannon.

Until you come up with an ample calc from the manga this won't even be taken into consideration.
this is from the manga dude.

Top speed at 50 feet away = 340mph
top speed at 100 feet away = 681mph

they were no more then 100 feet way.

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