Gaara vs Killa A

[colorles]

bloodlusted

location: where Sasuke fought A (outdoor land of iron)

both are prepared to fight; Gaara has sand out of his gourd, and A is in raiton shroud 1

[e710]

A speed blitz. Also A was thrashing Susano' Sasuke which is a stronger version of Gaara. Also lighting>earth and sand is earth so Gaara has no chance whatsoever.

[Nyruss]

A's speed > Gaara's speed. Gaara loses his head.

[Rikudo Sennin]

Lol, Gaara is so slow especially when his gourd in his back,
just One Lariat, Hidan's Head and Kisame(zetsu)'s Head will have a new
playmate.

[Akatsuki X]

A takes this sleep walking.

[zerosameri]

It's killer B and you do know that A is Raikage right?

-Zero's Bro

[colorles]

yeah, Gaara's not gonna loose that easily peoples

with sand already out of gourd, the same sand that intercepted and was faster than amerterasu, is not gonna get blitzed by raikage, and will easily protect him with current speed feats. in fact Gaara's sand will be the one attacking here, with raikage trying to counter

and if Gaara needs to, and if he is bloodlusted (which he is), he will just immiediatly fly high into the air, protected completely from the grounded, taijutsu fighter that is Raikage (lol unless raikage has a multi kilometer vertical leep, he's not hitting Gaara. and yes Gaara can go that high, at the very least hundreds of meters up or higher), and spam sand attacks from the ground, supplemented by some of his faster gourd sand for variety. high amounts of powerful ground sand supplemented with some fast gourd sand, and a flying and protected Gaara, would mean the death of Raikage

peoples saying speed is Gaara's weakness are actually a little off now; its the worst way to fight Gaara now as he has clearly addressed his old weaknesses and made them his strenthg. vastly powerful long range ninjutusu and or an ultimate defense like susano is need to possibly deafeat Gaara. close range fighters are outmatched with Gaara's new sand speed feats

and i did not bring up Gaara's sand blocking A's kick, for whatever

but Gaara's sand intercepting and prooving fast enough that sasuke's amerterasu barely blocked it is easily a legit speed feat. yeah raikage also evade amerterasu, but Gaara's sand is more plentiful, faster, and comes from multiple sides and is more aggresive, and also protects Gaara from counters. it would be fair if Gaara stayed on the ground; if he flies, what is Raikage gonna due? Hiller Bee would be a much better matchup for Gaara

and need i mention that Raikage was absolutely mortifyingly scared of getting assasinated by Kakashi when the two teams met in chapter 450 somthing? Raikage was like shaking along with Darui, and with a scared look asked 'did the Hokage send you'?, praying that Kakashi was not here to assasinate them. just had to bring it up lol

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by colorles

yeah, Gaara's not gonna loose that easily peoples

with sand already out of gourd, the same sand that intercepted and was faster than amerterasu, is not gonna get blitzed by raikage, and will easily protect him with current speed feats. in fact Gaara's sand will be the one attacking here, with raikage trying to counter

and if Gaara needs to, and if he is bloodlusted (which he is), he will just immiediatly fly high into the air, protected completely from the grounded, taijutsu fighter that is Raikage (lol unless raikage has a multi kilometer vertical leep, he's not hitting Gaara. and yes Gaara can go that high, at the very least hundreds of meters up or higher), and spam sand attacks from the ground, supplemented by some of his faster gourd sand for variety. high amounts of powerful ground sand supplemented with some fast gourd sand, and a flying and protected Gaara, would mean the death of Raikage

peoples saying speed is Gaara's weakness are actually a little off now; its the worst way to fight Gaara now as he has clearly addressed his old weaknesses and made them his strenthg. vastly powerful long range ninjutusu and or an ultimate defense like susano is need to possibly deafeat Gaara. close range fighters are outmatched with Gaara's new sand speed feats

and i did not bring up Gaara's sand blocking A's kick, for whatever

but Gaara's sand intercepting and prooving fast enough that sasuke's amerterasu barely blocked it is easily a legit speed feat. yeah raikage also evade amerterasu, but Gaara's sand is more plentiful, faster, and comes from multiple sides and is more aggresive, and also protects Gaara from counters. it would be fair if Gaara stayed on the ground; if he flies, what is Raikage gonna due? Hiller Bee would be a much better matchup for Gaara

and need i mention that Raikage was absolutely mortifyingly scared of getting assasinated by Kakashi when the two teams met in chapter 450 somthing? Raikage was like shaking along with Darui, and with a scared look asked 'did the Hokage send you'?, praying that Kakashi was not here to assasinate them. just had to bring it up lol

Raikage dogged Ammy. Lightining>>>Sand GG

The sand won't touch Raikage because Raition armor would block it.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Raikage dogged Ammy. Lightining>>>Sand GG

The sand won't touch Raikage because Raition armor would block it.

no, only peircing attacks, of any element, can affect Gaara's sand, not Raikage's non piercing punches and kicks (Gaara's sand already withstood a leg drop from A, and Amerterasu)

Gaara's sand easily intercepted Amerterasu, and is aggressive; Raikage would be the one countering

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by colorles

no, only peircing attacks, of any element, can affect Gaara's sand, not Raikage's non piercing punches and kicks (Gaara's sand already withstood a leg drop from A, and Amerterasu)

Gaara's sand easily intercepted Amerterasu, and is aggressive; Raikage would be the one countering

Raikage tanked an Ammy and CS2 laser. What does Gaara have? Also Raition Armor is a Shield Aura it isn't going to be beat by sand.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Raikage tanked an Ammy and CS2 laser. What does Gaara have? Also Raition Armor is a Shield Aura it isn't going to be beat by sand.

no, he lost his arm, and would have lost his life

CS2 laser he 'dodged', but it was predicable as it had to hesitate and charge; easy dodge

Gaara's sand is pressure; Raikage does not have Kimimaro's bones, and Gaara has immrproved dramatically and can use more sand proficiently

Gaara's sand can rip Raikage's muscles and ligaments, and break his bones

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by colorles

no, he lost his arm, and would have lost his life

CS2 laser he 'dodged', but it was predicable as it had to hesitate and charge; easy dodge

Gaara's sand is pressure; Raikage does not have Kimimaro's bones, and Gaara has immrproved dramatically and can use more sand proficiently

Gaara's sand can rip Raikage's muscles and ligaments, and break his bones

Give a feat that shows he has improved except in speed.
Raition Armor wouldn't be crushed it's ARMOR. Lightning>Sand again.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

Give a feat that shows he has improved except in speed.
Raition Armor wouldn't be crushed it's ARMOR. Lightning>Sand again.

read Gaara vs Deidara; Gaara's sand has that kind of power, and improved speed with current feats. and he always used his own chakra in that fight against deidara, so even with out his biju, he can still do said moves with his own chakra, and improved speed

no element is greater than sand. only peircing attacks (potentially of any element) are decent against Gaara's sand, and in part 2 with the ammount of sand and its density now, an attack like chidori for example is not gonna pierce anymore

the 'armor' is not armor in a litteral sense; it can protect from piercing attacks of its own element, but did nothing against amerterasu. it would not help him against the pressure of Gaara's sand

[J-Sun Tasogare]

Originally Posted by colorles

read Gaara vs Deidara; Gaara's sand has that kind of power, and improved speed with current feats. and he always used his own chakra in that fight against deidara, so even with out his biju, he can still do said moves with his own chakra, and improved speed

no element is greater than sand. only peircing attacks (potentially of any element) are decent against Gaara's sand, and in part 2 with the ammount of sand and its density now, an attack like chidori for example is not gonna pierce anymore

the 'armor' is not armor in a litteral sense; it can protect from piercing attacks of its own element, but did nothing against amerterasu. it would not help him against the pressure of Gaara's sand

The armor doesn't help against burning attacks only physical. Lightning Chop with Raition Armor 3. GG

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Cursed Uchiha

The armor doesn't help against burning attacks only physical. Lightning Chop with Raition Armor 3. GG

physical/piercing like Sasuke's sword and chidori; it has never proven to work against eh preddure of Gaara's sand, and considering amerterasu and a full force downkick of Raikage did not even budge it, Gaara's sand with part 2 feats is stronger and has more pressure than Raikage's body can withstand

and there is not raiton aura 3 as of yet

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by colorles

yeah, Gaara's not gonna loose that easily peoples

with sand already out of gourd, the same sand that intercepted and was faster than amerterasu, is not gonna get blitzed by raikage, and will easily protect him with current speed feats. in fact Gaara's sand will be the one attacking here, with raikage trying to counter

and if Gaara needs to, and if he is bloodlusted (which he is), he will just immiediatly fly high into the air, protected completely from the grounded, taijutsu fighter that is Raikage (lol unless raikage has a multi kilometer vertical leep, he's not hitting Gaara. and yes Gaara can go that high, at the very least hundreds of meters up or higher), and spam sand attacks from the ground, supplemented by some of his faster gourd sand for variety. high amounts of powerful ground sand supplemented with some fast gourd sand, and a flying and protected Gaara, would mean the death of Raikage

peoples saying speed is Gaara's weakness are actually a little off now; its the worst way to fight Gaara now as he has clearly addressed his old weaknesses and made them his strenthg. vastly powerful long range ninjutusu and or an ultimate defense like susano is need to possibly deafeat Gaara. close range fighters are outmatched with Gaara's new sand speed feats

and i did not bring up Gaara's sand blocking A's kick, for whatever

but Gaara's sand intercepting and prooving fast enough that sasuke's amerterasu barely blocked it is easily a legit speed feat. yeah raikage also evade amerterasu, but Gaara's sand is more plentiful, faster, and comes from multiple sides and is more aggresive, and also protects Gaara from counters. it would be fair if Gaara stayed on the ground; if he flies, what is Raikage gonna due? Hiller Bee would be a much better matchup for Gaara

and need i mention that Raikage was absolutely mortifyingly scared of getting assasinated by Kakashi when the two teams met in chapter 450 somthing? Raikage was like shaking along with Darui, and with a scared look asked 'did the Hokage send you'?, praying that Kakashi was not here to assasinate them. just had to bring it up lol

When Raikage did the drop kick, Sasuke didn't use Amaterasu. The second time Sasuke used Amaterasu to defend from the sand. So basically there's no point in saying Gaara's sand was "fast enough" to block Amaterasu because if anything, the Amaterasu blocked the sand from hitting Sasuke.

How is Gaara going to be given enough time to go into the air? Gaara gets smacked to the ground before that can happen.

None of Gaara's defenses can save him if Susanoo didn't save Sasuke from getting slapped around by Raikage.

So Gaara's sand being wide and attacking a completely exhausted Sasuke somehow proves it rivals Amaterasu in speed? Sasuke couldn't just run away since he was just in the middle of getting slapped around in an all out fight so he used the more convenient Amaterasu. Sasuke blocking the sand with Amaterasu proves nothing about how fast it is. If Gaara's sand is so fast then why wasn't Sasuke decimated? Sasuke was worn out from battling Raikage so at the least, Gaara should've been able to add to the damage. He didn't.

Just looked at chapter 450 and that was not the chapter it happened, I would like to see this. Even still, it makes no difference, Kakashi is known as one of the strongest ninja and at this point he potentially could defeat Raikage. Gaara and Kakashi are on two different levels.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth

When Raikage did the drop kick, Sasuke didn't use Amaterasu. The second time Sasuke used Amaterasu to defend from the sand. So basically there's no point in saying Gaara's sand was "fast enough" to block Amaterasu because if anything, the Amaterasu blocked the sand from hitting Sasuke.

How is Gaara going to be given enough time to go into the air? Gaara gets smacked to the ground before that can happen.

None of Gaara's defenses can save him if Susanoo didn't save Sasuke from getting slapped around by Raikage.

So Gaara's sand being wide and attacking a completely exhausted Sasuke somehow proves it rivals Amaterasu in speed? Sasuke couldn't just run away since he was just in the middle of getting slapped around in an all out fight so he used the more convenient Amaterasu. Sasuke blocking the sand with Amaterasu proves nothing about how fast it is. If Gaara's sand is so fast then why wasn't Sasuke decimated? Sasuke was worn out from battling Raikage so at the least, Gaara should've been able to add to the damage. He didn't.

Just looked at chapter 450 and that was not the chapter it happened, I would like to see this. Even still, it makes no difference, Kakashi is known as one of the strongest ninja and at this point he potentially could defeat Raikage. Gaara and Kakashi are on two different levels.

barely blocked the sand, and Sasuke complimented the speed

getting to the air depends on the distance and scenario, which i did not specify. however in the air, Gaara has too many advantages. but lets for the sake of the thread say they are at close range like 20 meters; Gaara's sand was fast enough to block dei's bombs from close range, at least pressure Sasuke, and it is always close to his body. even on the ground the sand cna defend and counter attack, and would not be by passed like in part one. granted though on the ground, Raikage has the advantage

Sasuke blocked ONE sand move, than went to susano and soon after retreated; it was not a long enough fight to gauge who had the upper hand. however i dont see Sasuke getting through Gaara's defenses withoutb Susano arrow. at the very least Gaara's sand is as fast or around the range, if not slightely faster\, than amerterasu enton, which keep in mind was already close to Sasuke's body to block the sand, and barely did

i'll get the page and chapter; raikage and Darui's reactions to seeing Kakashi so unexpectedly were priceless

[colorles]

on a side note, Naruto chapter 457 page 8, the middle panels, shows Darui and Raikage in utter shock at the sight of Kakashi, litterally fearing that Kakashi was sent by the hokage to assasinate them. Kakashi responds 'no....'

[Miles Edgeworth]

Originally Posted by colorles

barely blocked the sand, and Sasuke complimented the speed

getting to the air depends on the distance and scenario, which i did not specify. however in the air, Gaara has too many advantages. but lets for the sake of the thread say they are at close range like 20 meters; Gaara's sand was fast enough to block dei's bombs from close range, at least pressure Sasuke, and it is always close to his body. even on the ground the sand cna defend and counter attack, and would not be by passed like in part one. granted though on the ground, Raikage has the advantage

Sasuke blocked ONE sand move, than went to susano and soon after retreated; it was not a long enough fight to gauge who had the upper hand. however i dont see Sasuke getting through Gaara's defenses withoutb Susano arrow. at the very least Gaara's sand is as fast or around the range, if not slightely faster\, than amerterasu enton, which keep in mind was already close to Sasuke's body to block the sand, and barely did

i'll get the page and chapter; raikage and Darui's reactions to seeing Kakashi so unexpectedly were priceless

Barely because Sasuke was just finished getting annihilated by Raikage before the plot saved him. Full force, Sasuke would destroy Gaara.

If it's long range then Gaara would have a much better chance at winning, although it would mostly be a battle of stamina from there.

I doubt Sasuke needs Susanoo arrow to take out Gaara, Sasuke could probably use Tsukuyomi and then land a good hit from there.

It's been a while since then so I would like to see too xD

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth

Barely because Sasuke was just finished getting annihilated by Raikage before the plot saved him. Full force, Sasuke would destroy Gaara.

If it's long range then Gaara would have a much better chance at winning, although it would mostly be a battle of stamina from there.

I doubt Sasuke needs Susanoo arrow to take out Gaara, Sasuke could probably use Tsukuyomi and then land a good hit from there.

It's been a while since then so I would like to see too xD

perhaps

yeah this battle depends on range, and location too

well i was thinking more about Raikage vs Gaara, not Sasuke vs Gaara, so i disregarded genjutsu. there are some theories that Gaara's sand, since it has a 'life of its own' and coats his skin and the particles therefor must be always moving, could break him out of genjutsu. also eye of sand being immune to genjutsu. however whether or not those hold weight, Tsukiyomi is instant and in a different catagory all together

as i just posted, chapter 457 pg 8, middle panels; it can be misinterpreted, but look at it closely; Raikage and Darui were pretty nervous of being assasinated by Kakashi; that has to be the only time i have seen Raikage nervous