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Old 05-31-2010, 03:49 PM   #21
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Caz if Guy gets Poisoned hell live. + Flamethrows totally burn people, Gates OR Not.

Asuma + Kurenai...A Distraction... To Kisame?

if they step near him Water Dome, + Kakashi cant Kamui Kisame while he's Super speed surfing in a huge dome of water
Sasori is not gonna be reacting to 6 Gates Guy. None of Sasori's weapons are quick enough to get Guy before his heart is annihilated. Flamethrower is easily dodged.

Considering Kakashi Kamui'd 2 Susanoo arrows, yeah Asuma and Kurenai could easily distract Kisame long enough for Kakashi to land a good hit.

So Kakashi can react to Susanoo arrows but not Kisame? Kisame doesn't instantly summon a huge bundle of water, it takes time to build up, time that allows Kakashi to Kamui him easily.
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Sasori is not gonna be reacting to 6 Gates Guy. None of Sasori's weapons are quick enough to get Guy before his heart is annihilated. Flamethrower is easily dodged.

Considering Kakashi Kamui'd 2 Susanoo arrows, yeah Asuma and Kurenai could easily distract Kisame long enough for Kakashi to land a good hit.

So Kakashi can react to Susanoo arrows but not Kisame? Kisame doesn't instantly summon a huge bundle of water, it takes time to build up, time that allows Kakashi to Kamui him easily.
#1. Guy is a Taijutsu user so hell have to get close to Sasori. When he does Sasori poisons him. Guy will destroy Sasori's body but as shown when Sakura did that, he put himself back together again.

#2. Lets compare size. 2 Sasunoo arrows about 50 Meters Togerther. Water Dome 1,000,000,000,000 Meters HUGE diffrence.

#3. Yes, Really? Kisame wont even let Kakashi move if Kakashi is doing somthing to him he wont just stand there Hell do somthing
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You're acting as if Sasori's poison moves at the speed of light.

Guy in gates would easily be able to dodge any attemt at Sasori poisoning him. Sakura was able to jump back and avoid Sasori's poison attempts most of the time, even! Poison is not an issue on Jonin level ninja that are blitzed with 5 gates open...

You act like Water Dome is invincible. For one, he had prep time for Neji and company. That trap was set before they even showed up.

Also, Kakashi has Kamui. Neji proved that being in the water dome doesnt keep you from focusing and using your chakra. Kakashi can warp solid objects and gigantic explosions. Even IF he got caught in a water dome, he could easily just Kamui any tiny little part of the dome, and escape.

Also, Asuma has the Chakra Nature of Wind. We saw Naruto cut waterfalls with it. He has his weapons on him at all time, and could easily split the water with his Wind Blades.




OH! And here's the biggest detail that completely destroys your argument, Tourune.

Water Dome can only be used when there's a body of water around. Zabuza had to lure Kakashi into the lake to use it, as did Kisame against Team Guy. There were no bodies of water around where Deidara died. And Kisame cant summon that much water out of nowhere.
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#1. Guy is a Taijutsu user so hell have to get close to Sasori. When he does Sasori poisons him. Guy will destroy Sasori's body but as shown when Sakura did that, he put himself back together again.

#2. Lets compare size. 2 Sasunoo arrows about 50 Meters Togerther. Water Dome 1,000,000,000,000 Meters HUGE diffrence.

#3. Yes, Really? Kisame wont even let Kakashi move if Kakashi is doing somthing to him he wont just stand there Hell do somthing
How does Sasori poison him? None of his weapons are fast enough to actually get Guy, except MAYBE Iron Sand. Too bad that was restricted. If Guy uses Morning Peacock, Sasori's heart gets fried, GG.

2. Who cares if Water Dome is bigger? Susanoo arrows are much faster than the time it takes for Water Dome to form. Kisame gets his head Kamui'd off, GG.

3. Then what will he do to Kakashi? It's not like he can stop him from using Kamui.
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first asuma and kurenai and even kakashi cant hold kisame he will kill them in one minute if kisame put on him samehade he make water dome and no one cant escape even killer be couldnt escape and killer be can handle kakashi asuma kurenai ans gai with his finger kisame also use water clone that could handle kurenai and asuma even gai was need gates to defeat only 30% kisame and sasori gahave 100 pupest and more tha can summon those papputs will kill them in one minute exept gai tha will be fightining with kisame and sasori and kisame win in 5 minutes
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First of all,we have to know what are the abilities of every ninja.Gai won against Kisame by opening 6 gates but after using it he was exhausted,he can also open 7 gates,not 8 because he dies.He is a taijutsu user.Kakashi is fast and balanced and a MS user,Kurenai is a genjutsu user but i don't think Kisame nor Sasori would be affected,however she is a jounin,Asuma has wind and fire elements and he is a close range ninja.Kisame has tremendous chakra and doesnt get tired because of Samehada also uses water element.Sasori has poison,flamethrower and he is a puppet.The place is a total wasteland so no water dome for Kisame and no things for kakashi to use for a strategy.Kurenai is useless and will back-up with shuriken,paperbombs the others.asuma gets killed by Kisame cause difference in levels,so he with kakashi go against Sasori and Gai against Kisame.Kakashi and asuma work together and asuma uses the buddha technique to crush sasori's heart.Kisame should be alright cause of samehada but gai will be totally exhausted,then asuma,kurenai,gai attack kisame and kakashi prepares kamui which kills him or does some serious damage that wins them their game,what do u think?
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You're acting as if Sasori's poison moves at the speed of light.

Guy in gates would easily be able to dodge any attemt at Sasori poisoning him. Sakura was able to jump back and avoid Sasori's poison attempts most of the time, even! Poison is not an issue on Jonin level ninja that are blitzed with 5 gates open...

You act like Water Dome is invincible. For one, he had prep time for Neji and company. That trap was set before they even showed up.

Also, Kakashi has Kamui. Neji proved that being in the water dome doesnt keep you from focusing and using your chakra. Kakashi can warp solid objects and gigantic explosions. Even IF he got caught in a water dome, he could easily just Kamui any tiny little part of the dome, and escape.

Also, Asuma has the Chakra Nature of Wind. We saw Naruto cut waterfalls with it. He has his weapons on him at all time, and could easily split the water with his Wind Blades.




OH! And here's the biggest detail that completely destroys your argument, Tourune.

Water Dome can only be used when there's a body of water around. Zabuza had to lure Kakashi into the lake to use it, as did Kisame against Team Guy. There were no bodies of water around where Deidara died. And Kisame cant summon that much water out of nowhere.
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How does Sasori poison him? None of his weapons are fast enough to actually get Guy, except MAYBE Iron Sand. Too bad that was restricted. If Guy uses Morning Peacock, Sasori's heart gets fried, GG.

2. Who cares if Water Dome is bigger? Susanoo arrows are much faster than the time it takes for Water Dome to form. Kisame gets his head Kamui'd off, GG.

3. Then what will he do to Kakashi? It's not like he can stop him from using Kamui.
if Guy comes near Sasori. Poison cloud. Sasori will die but, so will Guy. just caz u have gates + ur running at somone doesnt make u immune to poison
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First of all,we have to know what are the abilities of every ninja.Gai won against Kisame by opening 6 gates but after using it he was exhausted,he can also open 7 gates,not 8 because he dies.He is a taijutsu user.Kakashi is fast and balanced and a MS user,Kurenai is a genjutsu user but i don't think Kisame nor Sasori would be affected,however she is a jounin,Asuma has wind and fire elements and he is a close range ninja.Kisame has tremendous chakra and doesnt get tired because of Samehada also uses water element.Sasori has poison,flamethrower and he is a puppet.The place is a total wasteland so no water dome for Kisame and no things for kakashi to use for a strategy.Kurenai is useless and will back-up with shuriken,paperbombs the others.asuma gets killed by Kisame cause difference in levels,so he with kakashi go against Sasori and Gai against Kisame.Kakashi and asuma(Wait isnt Asuma dead???????????) work together and asuma uses the buddha technique to crush sasori's heartthen Sasori puts himself together, o wait... filler moves not alowed here..Kisame should be alright cause of samehada but gai will be totally exhausted,then asuma(Ok is he dead or not),kurenai.Shes dead already,gai attack kisame.and dies and kakashi prepares kamui which kills him or does some serious damage that wins them their game,what do u think?
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first asuma and kurenai and even kakashi cant hold kisame he will kill them in one minute if kisame put on him samehade he make water dome and no one cant escape even killer be couldnt escape and killer be can handle kakashi asuma kurenai ans gai with his finger kisame also use water clone that could handle kurenai and asuma even gai was need gates to defeat only 30% kisame and sasori gahave 100 pupest and more tha can summon those papputs will kill them in one minute exept gai tha will be fightining with kisame and sasori and kisame win in 5 minutes
Do you read the manga? Kisame can't counter Kamui with the given feats it's got now, especially if Asuma and Kurenai provide a distraction. Imo, Susanoo arrows take much less time than Water Dome, Kakashi Kamui'd the Susanoo arrows.

Guy could easily blitz Sasori before he uses 100 puppets, not like the slow puppets could do anything.

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if Guy comes near Sasori. Poison cloud. Sasori will die but, so will Guy. just caz u have gates + ur running at somone doesnt make u immune to poison
When has Sasori demonstrated a poison cloud? I'm pretty sure he needs Hiruko and I'm not sure it's even canon. Not that it matters though, I mean when has he demonstrated reaction speed feats to 6 Gate Guy? Sasori gets lol blitzed by 6 Gate Guy before he can release any poison. Even if Guy gets poisoned, Guy would end up killing him first and Guy is not necessary to kill Kisame.

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ok i mean that because asuma can't win against kisame so he and kakashi attack sasori,you dont say that filler moves are not allowed but if so asuma throws his weapon like sakura did and cuts sasori's heart in two,also if sasori's heart is crushed he is dead he can't put himself together.kurenai is not dead she is backing up the rest of the characters i explained.last i think that three jounin can handle kisame enough for kakashi to use kamui ,i dont get the last "dies"
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ok i mean that because asuma can't win against kisame so he and kakashi attack sasori,you dont say that filler moves are not allowed but if so asuma throws his weapon like sakura did and cuts sasori's heart in two,also if sasori's heart is crushed he is dead he can't put himself together.kurenai is not dead she is backing up the rest of the characters i explained.last i think that three jounin can handle kisame enough for kakashi to use kamui ,i dont get the last "dies"
Wait so your changing sides?

+ when did Asuma get such a sharp eye? if Asuma throws his knife, a pupet catches it OR blocks it then it attacks Asuma

Guy + Kurenai + Kakashi vs. Kisame - Kurenai dies, Water Dom, Guy dies, then Kakashi vs. Kisame is debatable
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