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Old 05-28-2010, 03:03 PM   #1
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Shikimaru from the Nara clan or Neji from the Hyuuga clan, who would win?

Rules: This battle takes place right before Sasuke escapes the leaf village.
This battle will occur in the forest of death.
Both of them are full of chakra and ready to fight.
Shikimaru starts on a branch of a tree while Neji starts on the ground.
They are facing each other 20 meters away.
Shikimaru has 5 kunai, 8 shuriken, 3 paperbombs, and 5 roles of wire, while Neji has none of those things.
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It's Shikamaru, not Shikimaru. If Shikamaru had a plan thought out he might be able to win, but of course, Neji can just Rotation any Kunai or Shuriken that Shikamaru might use as part of his well-thought out plan. It could go either way.
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Neji rapes. He avoids any attempt by Shikamaru to join their shadows and pokes Shikamaru in the face, causing him to explode.
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ima go w/ Neji caz he's faster + Shika is done if he's cought in 128 Palms
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Shikamaru has the advantage in this battle because shadows are pretty much all around him. If I were to picck between the two I would pick Shikamaru because the battlefeild is pretty much just made of shadows. Shikamaru's ninja tools probably wouldn't affect Neji at all besides the paperbombs because they would be blocked by Neji's rotation. Neji would definatly have the upper hand in close combat but in midrange Shikamaru would have the upper hand. If one of Shikamaru's shadows touched Neji then the battle's already over for him.
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ima go w/ Neji caz he's faster + Shika is done if he's cought in 128 Palms
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Neji stomps. He has massively better reaction speed than Shikamaru can produce. He simply Rotations away anything Shikamaru tries to hit him with from far away, and shadows are easily avoided.

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Neji has it. he could run into the forest turn around and go into shikamaru's blindspot. game over.
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If Neji can dodge attacks from Kidomaru, then Shikamaru has nothing to take him out.

Neji uses 64 Palms and takes out Shikamaru.
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Shikamaru has the advantage in this battle because shadows are pretty much all around him. If I were to picck between the two I would pick Shikamaru because the battlefeild is pretty much just made of shadows. Shikamaru's ninja tools probably wouldn't affect Neji at all besides the paperbombs because they would be blocked by Neji's rotation. Neji would definatly have the upper hand in close combat but in midrange Shikamaru would have the upper hand. If one of Shikamaru's shadows touched Neji then the battle's already over for him.
Apparently in the Battle Grounds, the fights between the characters take place in an empty space. No obstacles, no differences in elevation- just a blank plane. I was told this by the moderators. In that case, Neji would win easily, I have to say. He could easily dodge Shadow Sewing and put Shikamaru into cardiac arrest by hitting the chakra points near his heart.

Additionally, Neji has nearly 360 degree vision, so chances are he wouldn't allow himself to be caught by the shadows. If he was trapped somehow, Rotation would solve the problem.
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Apparently in the Battle Grounds, the fights between the characters take place in an empty space. No obstacles, no differences in elevation- just a blank plane. I was told this by the moderators. In that case, Neji would win easily, I have to say. He could easily dodge Shadow Sewing and put Shikamaru into cardiac arrest by hitting the chakra points near his heart.

Additionally, Neji has nearly 360 degree vision, so chances are he wouldn't allow himself to be caught by the shadows. If he was trapped somehow, Rotation would solve the problem.
Only if no Location has been given.In this case Rotate did with the Forest of the Death.

While I agree Neji win's Rotation won't work against Shadow Possession.
Cause firstly Shadow Possession immobilizes Neji and can only move according to Shika.
Thus he can't Spin.
Tayuya got out by pure Strength.Is there anything that shows Neji having Power compared to her in CM2 State?

And how will Rotation solve it?
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Only if no Location has been given.In this case Rotate did with the Forest of the Death.

While I agree Neji win's Rotation won't work against Shadow Possession.
Cause firstly Shadow Possession immobilizes Neji and can only move according to Shika.
Thus he can't Spin.
Tayuya got out by pure Strength.Is there anything that shows Neji having Power compared to her in CM2 State?

And how will Rotation solve it?
1) I didn't realize the location was indicated, I apologize.
2) Neji would see the Shadow coming from any direction, and dodge it, and if he couldn't for whatever reason, he'd use Rotation to protect himself, as the Shadow is composed of chakra it can't past through a chakra barrier.
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It's not composed of chakra, it's manipulated using chakra. If it was made of chakra, it wouldn't be limited based on the shadow's reach.

Sort-of like Choji's expansion jutsu. He uses chakra to do it, but his body isn't made of chakra.
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It's not composed of chakra, it's manipulated using chakra. If it was made of chakra, it wouldn't be limited based on the shadow's reach.

Sort-of like Choji's expansion jutsu. He uses chakra to do it, but his body isn't made of chakra.
All jutsu has a chakra base, whether it's tangible or intangible. Choji has chakra running through his body, as the Shadow has chakra running through it as well.
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All jutsu has a chakra base, whether it's tangible or intangible. Choji has chakra running through his body, as the Shadow has chakra running through it as well.
No, Gaara, for example, doesn't put chakra in the sand he controls. The sand in his gourd is chakra-infused, yes, but he's often used other sand that isn't. He uses chakra to manipulate the sand, but there is no chakra in the sand.
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Neji's enhanced sight abilities severely limits shikamaru's stalling tactics and thus hurts any planning done during the battle.

Absent plot no jutsu Neji would take this one. It is reasonable to assume that neji could either outlast shikimaru who has little comparative chakra at this point or close the distance and win.

Neji's vision is the key to this stomping.
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No, Gaara, for example, doesn't put chakra in the sand he controls. The sand in his gourd is chakra-infused, yes, but he's often used other sand that isn't. He uses chakra to manipulate the sand, but there is no chakra in the sand.
If he uses chakra to manipulate the sand, then there's a connection between the chakra and the sand. All jutsu is chakra based.
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If he uses chakra to manipulate the sand, then there's a connection between the chakra and the sand. All jutsu is chakra based.
No, is it specifically explained that the sand in his gourd is chakra-infused, which is what makes it faster and stronger. If the other sand did too, there'd be no difference.

Jirobo uses chakra to pick up a huge mound of earth. Is the earth suddenly infused with chakra? No.
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No, is it specifically explained that the sand in his gourd is chakra-infused, which is what makes it faster and stronger. If the other sand did too, there'd be no difference.

Jirobo uses chakra to pick up a huge mound of earth. Is the earth suddenly infused with chakra? No.

No, I already knew about the gord. I'm saying, if he can manipulate the sand/earth that's around him by manipulating his chakra, then there's obviously a connection between the two. Every single jutsu in Naruto is chakra based.


Additionally, Jirobo picking up a chunk of earth is not a jutsu. It's him using his strength to pick up a piece of earth.
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If he uses chakra to manipulate the sand, then there's a connection between the chakra and the sand. All jutsu is chakra based.
When fighting Kimimaro, Gaara made sand that he could not infuse with Chakra, and used it against Kimimaro. He specifivally mentioned that it had no Chakra in it. He manipulates it with his Chakra, meaning that his Chakra allows him to move sand in the same way telekinesis would allow a person to lift a block.

The fact that there would not need to be Chakra in the sand is further proved by the Iron Sand technique, where the Chakra IN THE USERS BODY allowed them the ability to control magnetism, manipulating the metal sand.
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