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Old 05-15-2010, 12:55 PM   #21
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I said Shunsui, because Ukitake has health problems and in my opinoin Shunsui is stronger than Retsu.
Ryuuken Ishida, Uryuu's Father.
It just fit's well that all the Veterans appear now.


IIRC Unohana hasnt really showed much in terms of fighting so that's a odd assumption considering Ukitake's and Shunsui's reaction to when the latter forget to mention her.
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She hasn't showed any fighting skills. Although I beleive she could use her zanpakutou to poison or kill her enemies. However she seems generally against killing. I don't think she would make a good leader.

Ohh and they just said that because of her intimidating powers, xD
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Gin looks like he is just pretty much stalling for something, cause killing Ichigo seems like it's the farthest thing from his mind
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Well, Tessai still has time to come in, being a Kido master and all that. Him > Hachi, supposedly. And Hachi > #2 Espada. So Tessai should make a difference if he arrives. Well, let's see, Yoruichi and Urahara and Isshin and possibly Tessai VS Aizen. Aizen should still win. Unless Isshin goes Bankai on Aizen's ass, but then he couldn't use it in a story arc later for dramatic effect. Urahara also has yet to go Bankai, and this is the perfect time for him, too. I see Ichigo and Gin have decided to stop fighting and watch the show. They better go get some popcorn.

Anyways, Aizen's final form looks different from what I'd expected, but still moderately epic. At this point I don't think Aizen could be stopped unless Urahara's Bankai is powerful enough. Or if it simply has the right effect to stop Aizen. One thing that I know for sure by now is that Aizen will die. Probably within 10 chapters or so. Urahara will likely kill him, unless Ichigo steals the glory and gets to be a big hero and crap. Hey, it just happens sometimes in stories. My personal prediction is that Urahara goes Bankai and sacrifices himself to kill Aizen.

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Really. The dude has massive uber Plotkai.
Aizen's like the main antagonist, Kubo can't kill him or he'll be forced yet to make a new villain.
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There are people that can fill that role as the main villian when Aizen is gone
There arent many People anymore believing Aizen is the Main Villain.

It's quite believed nowadays Urahara is gonna be the Main one.

Meanwhile alot are also seeing Retsu in that positioning.
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There arent many People anymore believing Aizen is the Main Villain.

It's quite believed nowadays Urahara is gonna be the Main one.

Meanwhile alot are also seeing Retsu in that positioning.
I understand Kisuke, but how do people think Retsu is a villain?
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There are people that can fill that role as the main villian when Aizen is gone
But Kubo's whole build-up in Soul Society arc was to finally show that Aizen was the main villain. Killing him off like that and just replacing him with some other person to be the new villain would be a waste. Then again it would really depend on who Kubo chooses to be the next villain. But from the looks of it, we might be coming to a close for Bleach. Simply because (if you couldn't tell) Kubo is running out of ideas.

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Many things are wrong with it. Simply put Kubo is an incredibly lazy for a mangaka (lawl big panels and pictures with hardly and dialogue or background). Him thinking of a new villain or better yet ideas and plots for Bleach would be asking to much. I think its better if he lets go of Bleach and start a different series when his ideas are still fresh and don't drag on.
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I don't understand Kisuke being a villain, right now he's the one trying to kill the villain. Retsu, either. She's a well respected captain and medic. I'm 1000% sure that the next main villain after Aizen dies is totally going to be.....

someone we've never seen before. Most likely involved with the reason Isshin left the Soul Society.
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I don't understand Kisuke being a villain, right now he's the one trying to kill the villain. Retsu, either. She's a well respected captain and medic.
Lawl, Kisuke being a villain will be another Aizen plot twist. Well thats if Kubo decides for him to be the villain.

Not saying Retsu will be the next villain or anything but wasn't Aizen a respected captain as well?


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Lawl, Kisuke being a villain will be another Aizen plot twist. Well thats if Kubo decides for him to be the villain.

Not saying Retsu will be the next villain or anything but wasn't Aizen a respected captain as well?

Which is one of my greatest fears.
Aizen was using Shikai hypnotism left and right. We know Unohana's Shikai doesn't hypnotize.

Why? Isshin is going to be the story after Aizen dies. Him and whoever killed Tosen's friend, since IIRC that was never explained. Besides, we have half a dozen Bankai left for the story.
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I understand Kisuke, but how do people think Retsu is a villain?
Most likely it's due to her Hype.

Also because we're this far in the Manga and she hasnt shown anything really.
Thus making them believe Kubo has big Plans for her.

That in combo with the Main Character defeating the Final Villain.
Aizen is way too powerful for Ichigo.

I don't really know though...

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someone we've never seen before. Most likely involved with the reason Isshin left the Soul Society.
OH what's his name...Spirit King or in that likes?
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But Kubo's whole build-up in Soul Society arc was to finally show that Aizen was the main villain. Killing him off like that and just replacing him with some other person to be the new villain would be a waste. Then again it would really depend on who Kubo chooses to be the next villain. But from the looks of it, we might be coming to a close for Bleach. Simply because (if you couldn't tell) Kubo is running out of ideas.



Many things are wrong with it. Simply put Kubo is an incredibly lazy for a mangaka (lawl big panels and pictures with hardly and dialogue or background). Him thinking of a new villain or better yet ideas and plots for Bleach would be asking to much. I think its better if he lets go of Bleach and start a different series when his ideas are still fresh and don't drag on.
If you really want him to end bleach instead of making a new villain you are not really a Bleach fan.

Besides he came up with all of the Fraccion and Espada with no difficulty. A new villian would not be that hard to make.
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Aizen was using Shikai hypnotism left and right. We know Unohana's Shikai doesn't hypnotize.

Why? Isshin is going to be the story after Aizen dies. Him and whoever killed Tosen's friend, since IIRC that was never explained. Besides, we have half a dozen Bankai left for the story.
The whole mystery behind behind Isshin and Ichigo can be explained during the ending of the series. And we already know that Tousen's friend was killed by her husband. And the only people that need the reveal their bankai's are Yamamoto, Utaki, Retsu, and Kyo since they're captains unless like Ikkaku they hided they're bankai's away from their captains.
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I thought she was killed by a Soul Reaper
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If you really want him to end bleach instead of making a new villain you are not really a Bleach fan.

Besides he came up with all of the Fraccion and Espada with no difficulty. A new villian would not be that hard to make.
Never said I was a bleach fan. Just like Naruto, I only read them to see if they get any better (well in my taste). And I'm only suggesting he needs to end his series because he's just running out of ideas, well plot wise. Soul Society arc (IMO the best arc) was all incredibly well constructed from beginning to end. After that, the story just went all over the place. Or I just I don't like how every single chapter there always seems to be nothing but fighting and didn't really fit my mood.
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The whole mystery behind behind Isshin and Ichigo can be explained during the ending of the series. And we already know that Tousen's friend was killed by her husband. And the only people that need the reveal their bankai's are Yamamoto, Utaki, Retsu, and Kyo since they're captains unless like Ikkaku they hided they're bankai's away from their captains.
During the end of the series? No way, that deserves its own arc. It should at least.

When did they say Tosen's friend was killed by her husband? And who was this person, anyways? Tosen wanted revenge, but I don't think he ever got it.

Ukitake and Kyoraku, not Utaki and Kyo. You forgot Urahara, Isshin, (I have reason to believe he's a former captain) Kenpachi, (if he ever becomes haxxed enough to get one) Shinji, and the other two Visored former captains.
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Ukitake and Kyoraku, not Utaki and Kyo. You forgot Urahara, Isshin, (I have reason to believe he's a former captain) Kenpachi, (if he ever becomes haxxed enough to get one) Shinji, and the other two Visored former captains.
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Chapter 148 page 8 Tousen said in his flash back that his friend (i'm talking about the girl) "Her husband killed her."

Unless you guys are talking about someone else.
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