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Old 05-16-2010, 12:54 PM   #21
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I believe in The Big Bang Theory. I am a Christian, but I refuse to believe that God (which is not ever seen or anything) created us. I do not believe in dreatinism because if no one has seen God, then how can he create us? If you don't understand here is more into it.
My definition of the word "exist" is something you can use any of the 5 senses to contact.
So with that said, how does something that basically doesn't exist create things.
How can you be Christian if don't believe you were created by God?........Basically you're saying that God doesn't exist making you a nonbeliever. Saying you are Christian makes yourself and all us Christians look bad. That's like saying you never say a Nuclear warhead and saying it doesn't exist until you see it or touch it.
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Default Re: Creationism vs. the Big Bang Theory

To me I'm leaning to the big bang theory. Mostly because (plaese do not judge me or think of me as a horrible person) I'm not religous so I have more of beleif to science. Also I think that neither created us. Something like an explosion coming from somethin non-existing. Or a higher-being randomly creating us for no apperent reason.(Maybe there is a reason i don't know). But it seems that this debate will go on forever until we hate proof and I'm awaiting that day to believe in the unkown truth.
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I believe in The Big Bang Theory. I am a Christian, but I refuse to believe that God (which is not ever seen or anything) created us. I do not believe in dreatinism because if no one has seen God, then how can he create us? If you don't understand here is more into it.
My definition of the word "exist" is something you can use any of the 5 senses to contact.
So with that said, how does something that basically doesn't exist create things.
I don't see how is this possible.



Anyways, I am and Agnostic who believes in the Big Bang Theory and Evolution, but I also believe in God and Jesus Christ. To call someone a hypocrite over what they believe is pretty much preposterous.
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Which do you believe in, and why? From what I've seen, society as a whole is turning away from religious teachings and Biblical stories and relying more and more on science for answers. The origins of the universe are no exception.

I also ask how many of you who believe in the Big Bang are either religious or believe that the Bible should be taken literally. Another thing I've noted is the rising number of atheists in the world, or at least in America/ Europe, and that seems to rise the more we rely on science.

The Big Bang theory vs Creationism debate is only one example of how people are showing a smaller and smaller reliance on the Bible for historical truths, and more so on science.

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Which do I believe? How about both? I think that God created the Universe via the Big Bang or rather the result of God creating the Universe was the Big Bang. I don't think the two are incompatible at all with each other.
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Another topic about the origin of everything?

Can't you people learn to respect other people's believes and let it go already? The only right answer is what you believe to be true.
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Another topic about the origin of everything?

Can't you people learn to respect other people's believes and let it go already? The only right answer is what you believe to be true.
Agreed. I mean until we can go back in time and return with the actual data that says either way what happened it's really all just fancy guess work.
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Doppler effect, Hubbles equations, Quasars (discovered after the theory was proposed), Cosmic background radiation (discovered after theory proposed) in support of the Big Bang theory.

As opposed to... a book.
Likely you read of these theories from a book or books yourself, so that leaves your argument void, unless I'm missing something?

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But, how do we know those words are true? Have you ever played the game where you stand in a line and tell one person something and they pass it down to the very last person. By the time it reaches the end, the story has changed completely. Now, if a story can change that drastic from one person to the next, how has these stories not changed over millennia? That does not make any sense to me. God never came to Earth, according to the bible. Apparently, he told people his word and they followed. To hear a being that is not physical requires some form of connection. The Bible wasn't even printed until centuries later. How would these people know what happened in the past if they were never there? I wouldn't say I am close minded at all.

The Big Bang theory has been explained scientifically and has proof to justify. I would explain it here, but it is far too long. Nonetheless, it sounds way more logical than some being creating the universe. There has been no proof what so ever that a God exists.
God did come to the earth, according to the Bible. SEVERAL TIMES. There's a mention of one instance near the very beginning of Genesis. Then there's the part where He's talking to Adam, then later with Adam, Eve, and Mr. Satan. Don't forget the part where Moses gets to witness His passing by. And there's also Christ Himself, the Son of God, which by Jewish tradition would thus make Him God, is God, was among people in person, in the flesh. For several decades. The Word was written down before the advent of the printing press - hardly a unique instance, either. It just had to be written or etched by hand is all. Archaeological finds of manuscripts dating back many years are still in accord with what we have now, as far as native language manuscripts are concerned. By that, I mean recent endeavors, from King James Version onward, incorporate translation errors in accord with papal/archbishop teachings of the day. So, best to have a Concordance or two about so you can be sure you're reading the truth and not some political slant.

The Big bang Theory was postulated scientifically, and does not eliminate the hand of a superior being. In fact, a chief detractor of the theory was an atheist himself and dismissed the theory for that very reason. In fact, he is the one responsible for giving the theory it's no well-known name, initially as a mark of derision.

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I believe in The Big Bang Theory. I am a Christian, but I refuse to believe that God (which is not ever seen or anything) created us. I do not believe in creationism because if no one has seen God, then how can he create us? If you don't understand here is more into it.
My definition of the word "exist" is something you can use any of the 5 senses to contact.
So with that said, how does something that basically doesn't exist create things.
You are not a Christian by every definition I can bring to mind, and have not entered this debate so much as made one simple statement followed by a mess.

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Another topic about the origin of everything?

Can't you people learn to respect other people's believes and let it go already? The only right answer is what you believe to be true.
>_> Bacon, this thread is not at all new, man.

Respectfully, I disagree, as that is impossible. Two conflicting realities do not exist in the outside world without involving the collapse of the universe.

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Agreed. I mean until we can go back in time and return with the actual data that says either way what happened it's really all just fancy guess work.
You mean it's all faith no matter what path you choose.

Before I officially enter the debate, I think we should also bring to light the fact that other religions believe the universe was created, albeit fairly differently from each other. So we need to be very clear on our stance when we debate this particular topic.
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But it seems that this debate will go on forever until we hate proof and I'm awaiting that day to believe in the unkown truth.

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The Big Bang Theory may not be 100% true, but there is NO EVIDENCE WHATSOEVER supporting Christianity's god. For that reason, I look to science, which refers to what is actually known when looking for answers.
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Even though I find creation stories to be quite interesting, I think that the Big Bang Theory is the most valid of them. The static on television sets may sound annoying, but they carry the sound remnants of the first few moments of the existence of the universe.
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I have heard a plausable theory that said that, technically speaking, the Earth and mankind were created in seven days, yet the Earth is still billions of years old. It's got something to do with space-time moving apart during the expansion of the universe. I'd have to look it back up to get more details. It's also accounts for the existance of Evolution.
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ill lean towards Big Bang, cus its a pretty cool show lol
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The Creation of the Big Bang.

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Kreegah! sidebar: Not sure why anyone even cares about the origins of anything. Every mind-numbing idiot this planet's birthed has reinvented the wheel in accordance with every subject imaginable, so a pursuit of History and any beginnings is useless - nobody's going to learn from past mistakes.

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Uh, relevance? you blithely ask, like the dumb cow you are.


Simple, why bother to sate a half-assed interest when you don't care about where it leads you. Also, since you can't get to a point before the beginning to witness the beginning (while still retaining existence, mind), why even bother postulating? With no proof to back up any theory scientifically, you cannot be right, meaning you are forever wrong. And I pay no heed to wrong-ites. Science is a tool, not a belief.

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It doesn't matter if you believe in religion or if you believe in science, because believing in either one requires faith. It requires faith because there is no definite proof that they are the true. There is nothing that everyone in the world would except as proof of god, and there are a lot of unanswered questions surrounding the big bang. (What caused it, what the adam that exploded was made up of, ect.) That's why a science vs. religion thread conversation isn't going to do anywhere: Nobody is going to change what they believe because of what some stranger said to them online.
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I believe in both to be honest. I think the reason why so many people have left there relegion is because they lost faith in there relegion. mainly because there priest or relegious leaders don't help them at all or gived them useless anwers. as for science it has given so many anwsers to questions humans needed. however there are things science cannot explain.
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How about the 3rd alternative where the universe was created right now and that all of history and memory is an illusion? Can't prove me wrong can you? A winner is me! }:?)
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