Asuma and Shikamaru and Kakashi vs Kisame Itachi and Sasuke

[Phoenix Wright]

Kisame is faster than Kakashi, if he uses water dome it follows him, apparently you don't read carefully if you are caught up.

Of course they aren't going to sit there, they'd be dead before they can do anything but sit there. So in a way you're correct. Alright you're just giving random claims that it takes 3 or more seconds for Kisame's team to chop their heads off.

Do you have any proof it takes that long, or that they're quick enough to not get blitzed?

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Wright

Kisame is faster than Kakashi, if he uses water dome it follows him, apparently you don't read carefully if you are caught up.

Of course they aren't going to sit there, they'd be dead before they can do anything but sit there. So in a way you're correct. Alright you're just giving random claims that it takes 3 or more seconds for Kisame's team to chop their heads off.

Do you have any proof it takes that long, or that they're quick enough to not get blitzed?

kisame does blitz asuma and shikamaru but clearly you don't understand WATERDOME IS SLOWER THEN KAUMI
if you saw the last episode (159) kakashi kaumi'd the the nail MOVING FASTER THEN SOUND show me proof that waterdome moves faster then sound and ill agree with you

[Phoenix Wright]

Um, okay.

It moves with Kisame. You should know his speed, if you don't then clearly you're not as caught up as you say you are.

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Phoenix Wright

Um, okay.

It moves with Kisame. You should know his speed, if you don't then clearly you're not as caught up as you say you are.

ok so your saying kisame can go into kisamhada mode and then do giant water shockwave and then make it into water dome faster then 3 seconds? no he can't so kaumi would take him out

[Phoenix Wright]

He can dodge. It doesn't take much prep, what's he gonna use Kamui on? The water? Yeah because it'll allow him to teleport that much away without becoming completely exhausted and giving Kisame time to kill him.

[The_Nine_Sins]

"lol should I give my thoughts of this battle or no?"
*Taps his foot wating for a answer.*

[Kuromaki]

Kisame, Itachi, Sasuke speed>>>>Asuma, Shikamaru, and Kakashi.

Kakashi is the only one on the first team who can possibly keep up with someone on the other team, and there is no way he is soloing Kisame, Itachi, and Sasuke.

Originally Posted by The_Nine_Sins

"lol should I give my thoughts of this battle or no?"
*Taps his foot wating for a answer.*

Um, yeah that's kinda what you're supposed to do when you post in a thread in the Battlegrounds. Asking if you should give your thoughts on it is like spamming.

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

Kisame, Itachi, Sasuke speed>>>>Asuma, Shikamaru, and Kakashi.

Kakashi is the only one on the first team who can possibly keep up with someone on the other team, and there is no way he is soloing Kisame, Itachi, and Sasuke.

Um, yeah that's kinda what you're supposed to do when you post in a thread in the Battlegrounds. Asking if you should give your thoughts on it is like spamming.

I just hope your not saying the part in red because of what i said cuz i said that kisame can't solo aganst kakashi asuma and shikamaru but their team aganst itachi kisame and sasuke stomp ( i stated my reasons y i don't think kisame could solo the konoha team and i already made my argument)

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Slack 40

I just hope your not saying the part in red because of what i said cuz i said that kisame can't solo aganst kakashi asuma and shikamaru but their team aganst itachi kisame and sasuke stomp ( i stated my reasons y i don't think kisame could solo the konoha team and i already made my argument)

I never said Kisame could solo, but then again there's Water Dome which gives him a massive advantage.

/didn't read the debate

Edit: I skimmed, and I doubt Kakashi would use Kamui on Kisame so early on given the conditions of the fight, but if he did, there are still two others on Kisame's team. Besides, even if he Kamuis Water Dome, that would leave him weakened, so Kisame can attack again.

[Yellow Flash]

In terms of the entire team, the left side take this with extreme ease.

As for Kakashi taking out Kisame, he most certainly can. Are you trying to say Kisame's movement speed is faster then it takes for Kakashi to perform Kamui? He Kamui'd one of Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, which are supposedly FTL. (I don't believe that though.)

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

In terms of the entire team, the left side take this with extreme ease.

As for Kakashi taking out Kisame, he most certainly can. Are you trying to say Kisame's movement speed is faster then it takes for Kakashi to perform Kamui? He Kamui'd one of Sasuke's Susano'o arrows, which are supposedly FTL. (I don't believe that though.)

Thank you someone who agrees

[Slack 40]

Originally Posted by Kuromaki

I never said Kisame could solo, but then again there's Water Dome which gives him a massive advantage.

/didn't read the debate

Edit: I skimmed, and I doubt Kakashi would use Kamui on Kisame so early on given the conditions of the fight, but if he did, there are still two others on Kisame's team. Besides, even if he Kamuis Water Dome, that would leave him weakened, so Kisame can attack again.

Clearly you didn't understand what i said. I mean that kisame alone can't beat kakashi shikamaru and asuma because asuma and shikamaru can hold him off for the few seconds it takes kakashi to kaumi kisames head off also kisame wouldn't use water dome so early and seeings as the OP said nothing about not being bloodlusted it is assumed they are blood lusted so kakashi would use kaumi first

[Kuromaki]

Originally Posted by Slack 40

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Clearly you didn't understand what i said. I mean that kisame alone can't beat kakashi shikamaru and asuma because asuma and shikamaru can hold him off for the few seconds it takes kakashi to kaumi kisames head off also kisame wouldn't use water dome so early and seeings as the OP said nothing about not being bloodlusted it is assumed they are blood lusted so kakashi would use kaumi first

What can I say? I skimmed

What if Kisame uses Water Shockwave, or Water Dome early on? If Kakashi Kamuis that, he'll be tired.

Anyways I am just providing a scenario. Kakashi could very well Kamui Kisame's head off, but it doesn't make much of a difference when it comes to which team wins this fight.

[321zigzag1]

Asuma dies first. Then Shikamaru and Kakashi in his horror tries to flee but Kisame does Water Dome + Fusion and swallows him up and eats him.

[The_Nine_Sins]

Ok lets break it down I see some neglect in some of these characters.

Itachi
+Sharingan/MS
+Amaterasu
+Tsukiyomi
+Susanoo w/ Yata's Mirror and Sowrd of Totsuka
+Shadow Clone
+Exploding Shadow clone
+Crow Clone
+Dusk Crow genjutsu
+Ephemeral( Genjutsu where crows turn into shurikens and hit the target.)
+Katon tech
+Speed
-Hurts himself when amaterasu is used

Kisame
+Samehada
+Water Clones
+Water Prison
+Water Shark Missle
+Exploding Water Colliding Wave
+Kisame/Samehada fusion
+Water Dome
+Five Feeding Shark Tech
+Power
+Absorbs Chakra with samehada to regen wounds
-Without Samehada he would have a hard time fighting

Sasuke
+Sharingan
+Lightning mastery
+Kirin
+Amaterasu(if he dosen't have that cross it off with the new MS ablities he would have)
+Susanoo
+Tsukiyomi
+Katon Tech
+Kusangai Chidori katana
+Chidori Senbon
+Chidori Sharp Spear
+Chidori Current(Nagashi)
+Tool Summon and control
+Speed
+Summon Hawk etc.
+Kusangai
-Kirin is a one shot, so using it means you deplete most of your chakra

Asuma
+Flying Swallow
+Chakra Knives
+Veradent Mountain's Violent Wind Tech(Counters lightning)
Katon Ash pile Burning tech
+Speed

Shikamaru
+Bloodline trait: Nara Shadow Manipulation
+Shadow Neck Bind
+Shadow Sewing tech
+Shadow immataion Shuriken
+Shadow immatation
+Intellect
-Is not for melee
-Shadow immatation gets weaker over time

Kakashi
+Sharingan/MS
+Kamui
+Raikiri
+Shadow Clone
+Water Clone
+Lightning Hound
+Lightning Clone
+Katon/Raiton/Doton/Suiton Tech
+Summon Dog Pack
+Intellect
+Speed
-Kamui takes a lot out of kakashi seeing he was exhausted for about a week or two after three uses.

Now since I can see everyone is fussing about water dome I will tell you what I think, The real danger is itachi seeing he could tsukiyomi people from a distance, and hopefully wasting the target almost instantly, seeing how kakashi knocked out after one hit. Shikamaru would seem like problems with shadow tech seeing he could impale them with sewing attack or use immatation tech. For a easy win all they have to do is Itachi amaterasu kakashi, or shikamaru, seeing they would be the most to be a nuisance, so that would be one down. Kisame can use water dome and take them inside, and while itachi and sasuke stand back from the dome, both asuma and kakashi might suffocate underwater, along with kisame making contact to drain chakra, kakshi can't do lightning tech in water other wise he would shock himself with his own tech. However this would be a alternateive. if asuma blitz itachi and sasuke could see it with sharingan so if they would be targeted they would react before he got close. kisame can easily take asuma seeing he did before in pre shippuden ep. Sasuke can blitz shikamaru if he is unprotected using chidori katana to extend to force shika back or possibly hit him. itachi can just tsukiyomi any of the three in the begining and take one out leaving two left.Now asuma can blitz which can distract attention for a second while shikamaru uses shadow bind and etc on sasuke or kisame.kakashi can use a kamui to to kill one of them but remember he needs to aim well to do this, some of you say he perfected the aiming but remember he only kamui the nail shot by pain/pein because it was so close making it easier to target, the same with susanoo's arrow, kakashi was in point blank range, but hey he could have probably gotten better at aiming who knows? kakashi could also use clones to distract itachi or kisame and/or sasuke, and take them by surprise. I would give this to team itachi/Kisame/Sasuke because itach can basicly take out anyone of the three with tsukiyomi or amaterasu in a sec, or even use crow shurriken genjutsu on asuma or Shika, as well as kisame's water dome, seeing they could suffer from suffocation when they are caught inside the dome, and have to worry about kismehada, and lastly Sasuke, seeing he has awesome speed(even tough I hate to admit it, it doesn't compare to raikage.) he could probably take shikamaru out in a flash with either his sword or tech. if sasuke were to face kakashi or asuma, he can nagashi both of them. But the Amaterasu>Water Dome>lightining tech really pwns team Shika/Asuma/kakashi seeing amaterasu dosen't die under water and continues to burn. And since kisame is really powerhouse he can tank both kakashi and asuma, while itachi and sasuke could lay back and use their tech on them.I Rest my case :/

[Blind Uchiha]

This fight is multiple levels of stomp. Kakashi can only use Kamui about three times before becoming exhausted. Assuming, he attacks Sasuke first, Itachi hits him with Tsukuyomi before he manages to move on to Kisame or Itachi. Same goes for, Sasuke. No way the left can beat the right.

[prasanth]

kisame and itachi can solo with some ease.
sasuke will get beaten by team A without much effort (unless he has the EMS, but kakashi still has kamui which beats him)

but still team B stomp