kakuzu vs Itachi

[prasanth]

kakuzu starts with all hearts out, itachi has no illness

who wins?

[Yori]

Itachi Ammy takes out the hearts, Itachi speed blitz Kakazu for the win

[Miles Edgeworth]

Itachi stomps.

He puts Kakuzu into Tsukuyomi and takes him out.

Not sure if the hearts would still be active but if they were, Itachi could easily take them out with his numerous jutsu.

Heck he can even outspeed Kakuzu pretty easily.

Susanoo could decimate Kakuzu quite casually as well.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Miles Edgeworth

Itachi stomps.

He puts Kakuzu into Tsukuyomi and takes him out.

Not sure if the hearts would still be active but if they were, Itachi could easily take them out with his numerous jutsu.

Heck he can even outspeed Kakuzu pretty easily.

Susanoo could decimate Kakuzu quite casually as well.

tsukiyomi would maybe work, but what of Kakuzu's tendrils? since they seem to move on there own, do you reckon they could break Kakuzu out of genjutsu?

Kakuzu seemed pretty fast, comparable in footspeed to Kakashi as that time (granted Kakashi seems to get faster later on), so Itachi outspeeding Kakuzu by any decent margin is not to likely. however he should have the advantage in reaction speed. Kakuzu's speed is commonly underrated

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by colorles

tsukiyomi would maybe work, but what of Kakuzu's tendrils? since they seem to move on there own, do you reckon they could break Kakuzu out of genjutsu?

Kakuzu seemed pretty fast, comparable in footspeed to Kakashi as that time (granted Kakashi seems to get faster later on), so Itachi outspeeding Kakuzu by any decent margin is not to likely. however he should have the advantage in reaction speed. Kakuzu's speed is commonly underrated

Kakashi was on par with Kakuzu, meaning they're both transonic.

Itachi is supersonic so no.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

Kakashi was on par with Kakuzu, meaning they're both transonic.

Itachi is supersonic so no.

enough of the 'transonic/supersonic' stuff. either calculate it or leave it out

how is Itachi faster than Kakashi? legitimately prove Itachi is faster in footspeed and reaction speed than Kakashi through feats, and then your point will be 'valid'

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by colorles

enough of the 'transonic/supersonic' stuff. either calculate it or leave it out

how is Itachi faster than Kakashi? legitimately prove Itachi is faster in footspeed and reaction speed than Kakashi through feats, and then your point will be 'valid'

They are calculated at that speed...

Sasuke was having trouble keeping up with Itachi and we all know Sasuke>>Kakashi in speed.

[321zigzag1]

Kakuzu was blitzed by Kakashi although distracted. Although he blitzed Kakashi back. However Kakuzu failed to blitz Shikamaru completely.

Just letting you all know.

Also Itachi while dying reacted to Sasuke fine and we all know Sasuke has that hype speed fiasco.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

They are calculated at that speed...

Sasuke was having trouble keeping up with Itachi and we all know Sasuke>>Kakashi in speed.

first of all, when Kakashi fought the Itachi clone, they both seemed comparable in speed; the clones only limitations were attack power due to only 30 % chakra, not speed. this is also confirmed by the fact that Gai needed 6 gates to be faster than unfused Kisame; speed is the same as the norml bodies with the clones

Sasuke was slightely slower than Itachi, and is slower than Kakashi. whats so hard about this? i did not see Sasuke as faster than Kakashi when they recently fought; Kakashi intercepoted his chidori with ease, and in reaction speed warped away 2 susano arrows from very close range

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by colorles

Sasuke was slightely slower than Itachi, and is slower than Kakashi. whats so hard about this? i did not see Sasuke as faster than Kakashi when they recently fought; Kakashi intercepoted his chidori with ease, and in reaction speed warped away 2 susano arrows from very close range

Where did you get that?

Yes a weakened tired drained Sasuke.

All you proved that Kakashi has great reaction speed not movement as Sasuke's.

[colorles]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

Where did you get that?

Yes a weakened tired drained Sasuke.

All you proved that Kakashi has great reaction speed not movement as Sasuke's.

Kakashi's movment speed is all over the manga: first in his battle with clone itachi (who only has limited chakra and jutsu, not speed), against Kakuzu (who is faster than most give credit), definatly against Pain (the only knock on this is Asura intercepting his Raikiri, however Raikiri was thought to be deactivated, and was lying very close to Deva at the time. Madara later highly complinmented Kakashi's speed (keep in mind madara is quite familiar with the speed of Itachi and Sasuke)

so yeah Kakashi's footspeed is definatly very fast

however his reaction speed with sharingan is better still

[321zigzag1]

Originally Posted by colorles

Kakashi's movment speed is all over the manga: first in his battle with clone itachi (who only has limited chakra and jutsu, not speed), against Kakuzu (who is faster than most give credit),

definatly against Pain (the only knock on this is Asura intercepting his Raikiri, however Raikiri was thought to be deactivated, and was lying very close to Deva at the time.

Madara later highly complinmented Kakashi's speed (keep in mind madara is quite familiar with the speed of Itachi and Sasuke)


so yeah Kakashi's footspeed is definatly very fast

however his reaction speed with sharingan is better still

And Sasuke has shown better. Your point? Kakuzu has shown great speed against kakashi yet he somehow couldn't blitz shikamaru completely although he did against Kakashi.

Pain was holding back and Pain wasn't bothered by Kakashi's speed when he was alone.

Just because he complimented doesn't mean the same for all. Also I highly doubt Kakashi would do as well against Killerbee even his base speed could overwhelm him in close range. Raikage as well.

Not in pat with Sasuke's but its not blitz for either.

[Mangekyou Sasuke]

He can just use Amatarasu. If not Susano'o but pretty interestin fight

[colorles]

Originally Posted by 321zigzag1

And Sasuke has shown better. Your point? Kakuzu has shown great speed against kakashi yet he somehow couldn't blitz shikamaru completely although he did against Kakashi.

Pain was holding back and Pain wasn't bothered by Kakashi's speed when he was alone.

Just because he complimented doesn't mean the same for all. Also I highly doubt Kakashi would do as well against Killerbee even his base speed could overwhelm him in close range. Raikage as well.

Not in pat with Sasuke's but its not blitz for either.

inconsitencies; also shika is not THAT slow, as seen against Hidan

wasent bothered? Kakashi seemed to be the faster of the two

you dont know that; nobody does cause Kishi never showed it, and besides Kakashi hasnt had the luxery of being hyped like Sasuke or bee etc; in fact ever since he fought Itachi and Orochimaru in part 1, he has been used as a plot device to hype other characters; in short, Kishi trolled him

nobody is blitzing Kakashi, as he is undoubtably fast, and his reaction speed is even faster, and he has many feints and tricks

[Yellow Flash]

Originally Posted by colorles

inconsitencies; also shika is not THAT slow, as seen against Hidan

wasent bothered? Kakashi seemed to be the faster of the two
you dont know that; nobody does cause Kishi never showed it, and besides Kakashi hasnt had the luxery of being hyped like Sasuke or bee etc; in fact ever since he fought Itachi and Orochimaru in part 1, he has been used as a plot device to hype other characters; in short, Kishi trolled him

nobody is blitzing Kakashi, as he is undoubtably fast, and his reaction speed is even faster, and he has many feints and tricks

Faster then Deva, I think not. Deva is supersonic, Kakashi is not, transonic at the most.

I don't wanna hear any whining about calcs.

[Hidan.]

If Kakuzu can guard amatarasu w/ his stael body armor then Kakuzy but Sasunoo would probubly kill Kakuzu

[Yori]

Originally Posted by Hidan.

If Kakuzu can guard amatarasu w/ his stael body armor then Kakuzy but Sasunoo would probubly kill Kakuzu

Ammy will still kill Kakazu with his iron skin

[Tourune]

I did this + Itachi won

[colorles]

Originally Posted by Legendary Yellow Flash

Faster then Deva, I think not. Deva is supersonic, Kakashi is not, transonic at the most.

I don't wanna hear any whining about calcs.

feats from there battle say there comparable in speed

[Nyruss]

Their battle in which Pain easily annihilated the out of Kakashi without trying?