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Old 04-11-2010, 09:18 PM   #1
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I say yay. For the most part discussion is more meaningful here than it is in places like the poll section.

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Old 04-11-2010, 09:19 PM   #2
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Yes, it should, as I have said the debates, clans, and off-topic section are usually more thought provoking than a lot of on-topic places.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:19 PM   #3
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For the debate section, yes. For the rest of Off Topic, no.
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For the debate section, yes. For the rest of Off Topic, no.
So the Polls section has more of a right to count than Off-Topic?
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:25 PM   #5
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So the Polls section has more of a right to count than Off-Topic?
Neither does, IMO. Off topic is more or less one giant chat section. There's a reason it no longer counts towards your post count: post farming. The same thing will happen again if this whole petition thing goes through. Hence, me not signing.
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Neither does, IMO. Off topic is more or less one giant chat section. There's a reason it no longer counts towards your post count: post farming. The same thing will happen again if this whole petition thing goes through. Hence, me not signing.
At least the post farming will be going on in off-topic and not in the naruto discussion sections. Reputation means more than Post Count on here and it's not right to the user who makes their thought-provoking conversations in off-topic, yet it is allowed to the post farmers in the post counting sections.
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Old 04-11-2010, 09:32 PM   #7
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Neither does, IMO. Off topic is more or less one giant chat section. There's a reason it no longer counts towards your post count: post farming. The same thing will happen again if this whole petition thing goes through. Hence, me not signing.
Real post farming became a problem after the change. People started making tons of two worded replies in serious threads.
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At least the post farming will be going on in off-topic and not in the naruto discussion sections. Reputation means more than Post Count on here and it's not right to the user who makes their thought-provoking conversations in off-topic, yet it is allowed to the post farmers in the post counting sections.
Question for you: Why does this matter? I still enjoy Off Topic more than the Battlegrounds, despite the fact that that's where the majority of my posts are from. Off Topic is a place to let loose and not worry about getting in trouble for talking too much or whatnot.

Post count is, plain and simple, a vanity thing. There are no pluses to making Off Topic count for posts. It simply means everyone gets a million extra posts to add to their account and they can flaunt it to their forum friends. I simply do not understand why this whole ordeal is necessary.
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If post count is just a vanity thing, we should just get rid of it all together, right? No that would be stupid. I'm genuinely curious to see how many posts I've made in my time here.
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If post count is just a vanity thing, we should just get rid of it all together, right? No that would be stupid. I'm genuinely curious to see how many posts I've made in my time here.
If you're curious, you can ask an admin or something. It isn't really that pressing of a matter.

And I don't see the purpose of posts to begin with other than to get a funny little ninja rank under your username.
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Question for you: Why does this matter? I still enjoy Off Topic more than the Battlegrounds, despite the fact that that's where the majority of my posts are from. Off Topic is a place to let loose and not worry about getting in trouble for talking too much or whatnot.

Post count is, plain and simple, a vanity thing. There are no pluses to making Off Topic count for posts. It simply means everyone gets a million extra posts to add to their account and they can flaunt it to their forum friends. I simply do not understand why this whole ordeal is necessary.
As I said, there are more thought-provoking conversations here than in places like the "Polls" section or the "Character Talk" section. Then you don't have people going around post "hi" everywhere. The people who are online most and hopefully provoke the most thought will be the ones with those imaginary numbers.

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If you don't care about post count, why does it matter so much to debate about? If EVERYONE is gaining these posts, why does it matter to you?
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If you're curious, you can ask an admin or something. It isn't really that pressing of a matter.

And I don't see the purpose of posts to begin with other than to get a funny little ninja rank under your username.
I'm curious for everyone. I want to see how much you and everyone else has really posted as well. Admins have better things to do with their time than to check that for me or anyone else.

And if you are so concerned with it being about rank we can simply up the requirement rank wise.
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I'm curious for everyone. I want to see how much you and everyone else has really posted as well. Admins have better things to do with their time than to check that for me or anyone else.

And if you are so concerned with it being about rank we can simply up the requirement rank wise.
I put that suggestion in the Petition thread.
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As I said, there are more thought-provoking conversations here than in places like the "Polls" section or the "Character Talk" section. Then you don't have people going around post "hi" everywhere. The people who are online most and hopefully provoke the most thought will be the ones with those imaginary numbers.

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If you don't care about post count, why does it matter so much to debate about? If EVERYONE is gaining these posts, why does it matter to you?
It matters to debate about because I enjoy this forum, and I'd rather not see some form of upheaval over something as trivial as post counts in the future. Not everyone gains the same amount of posts, and not everyone posts in off topic.
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And if you are so concerned with it being about rank we can simply up the requirement rank wise.
I can't really say anything to this post other than I have my opinion, I have my reasons, I've stated them, and I don't believe I have been given a reason to change them.
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why can't all topics count towards post count? who are they to give value to our posts like that? someone could post something useful in the off-topic section and something useless in the debate section. why can't they all just be equal?
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why can't all topics count towards post count? who are they to give value to our posts like that? someone could post something useful in the off-topic section and something useless in the debate section. why can't they all just be equal?
Kingsnoke says that this is what G Bunta is arguing. However, one can't say that it is against the rule to make pointless posts in the OffTopic section, for that violates the very purpose of the SubForum. Yet people would still get post counts for these posts. Hence the current Dilemma.
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Kingsnoke says that this is what G Bunta is arguing. However, one can't say that it is against the rule to make pointless posts in the OffTopic section, for that violates the very purpose of the SubForum. Yet people would still get post counts for these posts. Hence the current Dilemma.
This will also label many people as spammers, causing mass Infractions for spamming, get many people's post count to be negged, etc.
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Kingsnoke says that this is what G Bunta is arguing. However, one can't say that it is against the rule to make pointless posts in the OffTopic section, for that violates the very purpose of the SubForum. Yet people would still get post counts for these posts. Hence the current Dilemma.
how is that a problem if people get their posts in the off-topic section counted though? are you saying that the people shouldn't be judging whether or not the off-topic posts are worthy of being counted or are you saying that the off-topic posts shouldn't be counted? sorry, but i am a little confused.
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how is that a problem if people get their posts in the off-topic section counted though? are you saying that the people shouldn't be judging whether or not the off-topic posts are worthy of being counted or are you saying that the off-topic posts shouldn't be counted? sorry, but i am a little confused.
If the petition does pass, then that means more work time for mods, admins, and FAIL members. Also, it won't be for long, likely.
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