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Old 04-04-2010, 07:29 PM   #21
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Default Re: Is Atheism a Religion?

1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.

2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion.

3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions.

4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion.

5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith.

6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice.

Using definition six, Atheism is a religion since many people adamantly believe that there is no god.
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For people saying that Atheism is a religion:

Saying, "I don't believe you" is not a religion. As much as not collecting stamps is NOT a hobby. Atheism doesn't have shared beliefs, dogmas or tenets. It's simply a lack of belief of the existence of God or gods.
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well i say no its not a religion just cause i know it as having no religion
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Atheism is a lack of religion, its also more of a way of life, or a life decition
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For people saying that Atheism is a religion:

Saying, "I don't believe you" is not a religion. As much as not collecting stamps is NOT a hobby. Atheism doesn't have shared beliefs, dogmas or tenets. It's simply a lack of belief of the existence of God or gods.
Atheism goes beyond simply disagreeing with standard religions that are centered around a God. It extends to the point that it forms it's own idea and should be treated as such. Now whether atheism is a way of thinking, a religion, neither, or both depends on the person.
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Atheism goes beyond simply disagreeing with standard religions that are centered around a God. It extends to the point that it forms it's own idea and should be treated as such. Now whether atheism is a way of thinking, a religion, neither, or both depends on the person.
If a person does not consider the existence of a God or gods, is he forming his own idea? If a person does consider the existence of a God or gods, is he forming his own idea?
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If a person does not consider the existence of a God or gods, is he forming his own idea? If a person does consider the existence of a God or gods, is he forming his own idea?
At some point or another both are making a conscientious choice of what they are going to believe. There is such a thing as "I don't know". And most of the time they are not forming their own idea to be honest. Most people hold the same opinion of the first person who bothered to talk to them about it.
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Atheism is the lack of belief in gods. No more, no less. One cannot be atheist and religious. One is the absense of the other.
Many religious people still claim that atheism is a religion and that's based on faith. Which is quite simply untrue.

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Religion is having a strong faith in a God.Atheism is when someone does not believe in anything. Its not a religion,more of a generalisaion/title of someones beliefs-nothing Lol
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no religion is believing in some type of god.And Atheism is not believing in a god so clearly athiesm is not religion
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Some definitions to add to the debate and clarify agnostics

Strong agnosticism (also called "hard," "closed," "strict," or "permanent agnosticism")

the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."

Weak agnosticism (also called "soft," "open," "empirical," or "temporal agnosticism")

the view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day when there is evidence we can find something out."

Apathetic agnosticism (also called Pragmatic agnosticism)

the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic.

Agnostic atheism

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a deity does not exist.

Agnostic theism (also called "spiritual agnosticism")

the view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but still believe in such an existence.

Ignosticism

the view that a coherent definition of a deity must be put forward before the question of the existence of a deity can be meaningfully discussed. If the chosen definition isn't coherent, the ignostic holds the noncognitivist view that the existence of a deity is meaningless or empirically untestable. A.J. Ayer, Theodore Drange, and other philosophers see both atheism and agnosticism as incompatible with ignosticism on the grounds that atheism and agnosticism accept "a deity exists" as a meaningful proposition which can be argued for or against. An ignostic cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or a nontheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth.
DUDE...THAT'S WAYY TOO MUCH INFO! where did u get all that from anyway?

No I don't think Atheism is a religion. Because atheists
basically proclaim that their is no higher power and denounce
religion completely. So it wouldn't make sense that it would
be a religion in my opinion.

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Old 04-09-2010, 02:56 PM   #32
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I think I'll see what webster has to say about this.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/atheism

Interesting. From this I can conclude two things:

1. Atheists can be either religious or non-religious, as long as they don't believe in a deity. Buddhism springs to mind. So, if I was Buddhist, and I didn't believe in God(s) of any sort, then I could also be Atheist? Cool.

2. The response "I'm an atheist" is no longer sufficient when being asked "Are you religious?" It is, however, acceptable when being asked "What religion are you?" And if someone gives you the first response, chances are they don't know the exact definition(s) of Atheism.

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Some definitions to add to the debate and clarify agnostics

Strong agnosticism (also called "hard," "closed," "strict," or "permanent agnosticism")

the view that the question of the existence or nonexistence of a deity or deities and the nature of ultimate reality is unknowable by reason of our natural inability to verify any experience with anything but another subjective experience. A strong agnostic would say, "I cannot know whether a deity exists or not, and neither can you."

Weak agnosticism (also called "soft," "open," "empirical," or "temporal agnosticism")

the view that the existence or nonexistence of any deities is currently unknown but is not necessarily unknowable, therefore one will withhold judgment until/if any evidence is available. A weak agnostic would say, "I don't know whether any deities exist or not, but maybe one day when there is evidence we can find something out."

Apathetic agnosticism (also called Pragmatic agnosticism)

the view that there is no proof of either the existence or nonexistence of any deity, but since any deity that may exist appears unconcerned for the universe or the welfare of its inhabitants, the question is largely academic.

Agnostic atheism

Agnostic atheists are atheistic because they do not have belief in the existence of any deity, and agnostic because they do not claim to know that a deity does not exist.

Agnostic theism (also called "spiritual agnosticism")

the view of those who do not claim to know of the existence of any deity, but still believe in such an existence.

Ignosticism

the view that a coherent definition of a deity must be put forward before the question of the existence of a deity can be meaningfully discussed. If the chosen definition isn't coherent, the ignostic holds the noncognitivist view that the existence of a deity is meaningless or empirically untestable. A.J. Ayer, Theodore Drange, and other philosophers see both atheism and agnosticism as incompatible with ignosticism on the grounds that atheism and agnosticism accept "a deity exists" as a meaningful proposition which can be argued for or against. An ignostic cannot even say whether he/she is a theist or a nontheist until a sufficient definition of theism is put forth.
Thanks for the clarification, you saved me a few headaches.

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Agnostic atheism is confusing

Ignosticism seems interesting.
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Kingsnoke says that the answer to the question depends on one's definition of Religion.
It can be defined in to main ways
Definition 1
A specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects.

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The state of a religious; the service and worship of God or the supernatural; commitment or devotion to religious faith or observance

If one chooses to accept the first Definition, then Atheism is in fact a religion. For they all agree on the same beliefs and practices.
However if a god is required in one's view of what a religion is, then it is not.


In a final note. Kingsnoke asks if anyone has ever noticed that the word Believe has the Word Lie in it.
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Atheism is an "ism" so technically yes, it's a belief in no belief
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For people saying that Atheism is a religion:

Saying, "I don't believe you" is not a religion. As much as not collecting stamps is NOT a hobby. Atheism doesn't have shared beliefs, dogmas or tenets. It's simply a lack of belief of the existence of God or gods.(contradict yourself hu? "atheism doesn have shared beliefs" um yeah, they believe that there's no deity, no god, no allah, etc etc etc. when you put "it's simply a lack of belief of the existence of god or gods" you are truly saying "they believe there's no god" semantics, but important)

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Religion - a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe,esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usuallyinvolving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral codegoverning the conduct of human affairs.

Atheism - the doctrine or belief that there is no god.

Through these definitions, some are the same and some are different. By assuming that religions need a god, then it is fair to say atheism is not one. However, by saying religion involves people adamant in their believes, values, and practices, it can be argued that it is one.

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You are mistaken. I said "beliefs" with an "S" making it plural. Meaning, more than one belief.

Semantics? Yes. Important? No.
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I believe that its not believing in god.

The absence of religion is called irreligion. (I think)
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IDK how to explain it :P This is why no one every calls on me at bible study. :P
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Atheism is a religion as it removes God from the picture and replaces God with Humanity. Because God does not exist according to an atheist, Humanity is now the most powerful known beings in the universe. This places all responsibility and hope for the future on humanity. Essentially, this makes humans the gods of atheism.
I agree. They say they don't believe in God and replaces it with humanity. Which makes them believe in something which makes it a religion.
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Yes. I believe atheism is a religion. It may be different from the others; it may not believe in God, or have weekly meetings and such, but it IS a religion. Just because it doesn't believe in God doesn't mean that it's not one. If you look around in other areas of the debate forum, people seem to define the religion as FAITH. Is atheism not a faith itself? It's putting FAITH or loyalty towards the idea that God does not exist.

And if you look up the definition of religion, you find this: Religion is the belief in and worship of a god or gods, or any such system of belief and worship, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs.
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